mid-high end GPUs ATI or nvidia

Thor Walez · Post by **Thor Walez** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:29 pm

I read a lot of stuff about ATI and nvidia! BUT I never saw a direct competition between ATI 9800pro 128MB and nvidia 5900XT 128MB

256bit mem, fast ram and same price is what I found out.

Models are:
- MSI FX5900XT VTD 128MB Retail
- SAPPHIRE Radeon 9800PRO 128MB Retail

Just watch my sig to see which graphic cards I use at the moment!

btw: I had a AIW 9800SE with omega drivers and nearly same speeds like a 9800XT in my machine AND the "old" 9500pro I have (pumped out max oc as possible) had nearly the same speed as the AIW (was a Hercules 256bit Rams and all 8 pipelines activated) Afterwards we checked results on the internet and the soft-moddes AIW 9800SE was in the level of "normal" 9800XT!!!!
But that is another story!

Thank you,
-Thor

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:56 pm

9800 Pro ALL THE WAY

Mytflyguy · Post by **Mytflyguy** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:09 pm

Originally posted by Burke
9800 Pro ALL THE WAY

Although I have no true point of reference going from an Nvidia ti4200 to my 9800 pro ... From everything I've read this is a very accurate statment ... and I love the 9800 Pro

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 2:27 pm

9800pro vs. 5900xt there is no comparison, 9800pro

9600xt vs. 5900xt is a more fair comparison, and for the most part the 9600xt comes out on top

AMPLIFRIER · Post by **AMPLIFRIER** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:17 pm

im using a 9800pro....well see sig.

its the most amazing thing!

everytime i play bf1942 or ut2004.....ill see something in detail that will catch my attention and ill lose focus on the game because imm tripping out on how good one thing looks.

its...its...

just cant describe!

AMP

Mytflyguy · Post by **Mytflyguy** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:35 pm

Originally posted by AMPLIFRIER
everytime i play bf1942 or ut2004.....ill see something in detail that will catch my attention and ill lose focus on the game because imm tripping out on how good one thing looks.

its...its...

just cant describe!

AMP

Running it at 1600 ??? Mines at 1600 X 1200 with 4x AA and 8x AF ... and runs great !!! I love it ... Still some typical game stutters online , but it seems everyone is having that problem ... nand it happens to me even at 1380 X 1024

Just out of curiosity what are you hitting on 3Dmark'03 ?? It seem that the 5600+ I am scoring is about average , but I'd expect a little more ... Some people seem t think the older drivers ( Cat 3.9 ) run much faster but a lower quality graphic ... I'm currently running the Omega 2.5.22 ( I think ) based on the Cat 4.2's

Mytflyguy · Post by **Mytflyguy** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:36 pm

I'm debatin gon wheather I want to try Overclocking it ... Just not sure I want to go through the trouble of all the extra cooling and stuff at the moment.... I'm thinking I will enjoy it how it is now , so then I can have a new prject and new improvements later ( Kind of like the same new toy twice

)

TrevGlas · Post by **TrevGlas** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:46 pm

No stutters here!! Smooth as a baby's bottom

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:24 pm

Originally posted by Thor Walez
I read a lot of stuff about ATI and nvidia! BUT I never saw a direct competition between ATI 9800pro 128MB and nvidia 5900XT 128MB

I linked this article not too long ago:
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content ... 0xt&page=1

Has a 9800 128 megger in the comparison.

"Performance wise, the 5900XT flattens mid-range products from ATI."

Although by "mid-range"...they're referring to the 9600 family.

TrevGlas · Post by **TrevGlas** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:26 pm

Who voted on the 5900? lol

Thor Walez · Post by **Thor Walez** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:08 pm

Against all I deceided the nvida!
I will put my 9500pro in my 2nd comp and sell the TI4200 for 70-80€ and power my main rig up with the 5900XT ... oc like 500/800 and nearly have a 5900 ... ATI power will remain in my 2nd rig! I trust nvidia more than ATI.

ATI makes awesome cards but the 5900XT reminds me like TI4200 !!! 2.8ns RAM will be the brakes in my spec but I´ve heard 800 will be possible (technical max. speed are 1000/2.8*2=~714mhz...)

WE WILL SEE on monday or tuesday.

-Thor

BTW: is that OK for 9500pro

default speeds:

and

nearly maxed out GPU speeds (351/589)

TrevGlas · Post by **TrevGlas** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:58 pm

Wow I didn't realize the 9500's were that much faster than the 9600's.

My 9600 pro only gets 28k oc'ed.

I bet my 533 FSB is holding me back tho.

Thor Walez · Post by **Thor Walez** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:21 pm

Originally posted by TrevGlas
Wow I didn't realize the 9500's were that much faster than the 9600's.

My 9600 pro only gets 28k oc'ed.

I bet my 533 FSB is holding me back tho.

You have to check GFX Score .... b/c you can dump ur Intel

-Thor

PS: Was on the trip buying me a 9600XT 3 or 4 months ago ... gratefully I don´t have done that !!!!!!!!!!!!!

TrevGlas · Post by **TrevGlas** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:57 pm

My video card isnt even a mid range card anymore though. Anything above a 9500 will beat the comparable nvidia.

The 9800 XT will beat the 5900 xt without a doubt. Not even a competition.

Read up on it.

Thor Walez · Post by **Thor Walez** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:21 pm

Originally posted by TrevGlas
My video card isnt even a mid range card anymore though. Anything above a 9500 will beat the comparable nvidia.

The 9800 XT will beat the 5900 xt without a doubt. Not even a competition.

Read up on it.

Yes and but it is the same Core like 5950 only slower ram 2.8ns vs. 2.0ns
I think I will try it --> If Doom3 is faster on ATI platform I will switch cards (9500pro and 5900XT) from 1st rig to 2nd rig! The 9500pro has more power than we all thought (only the 128bit mem is a bottleneck!)

-Thor

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