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purely hypothetical, with legal consequences question

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could you transfer, say microsoft office to another computer if you'd lost the original cd? i mean, could you just copy the folder from program files, zip it up, and send it off on icq?

If not, what else would you have to do to make it work?
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To be truthful. I have use my set of windows on a lot of peoples computers who wanted win 98se. I figure I paid for it. So really what can they do. If they were going to get me they would have by now. Just tell them not regester it if you are worried. ;) Transfering it might not work. Try and find someone who can burn a copy for you. I usally burn a copy for the person who wants a copy of it and mail it to them.

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if u just copy the program off the hard drive none of the regestry enntries or file associations will be with the program any more and so it won't work when the other person tries to use it or work well. best think is like Storm90 said burn the cd and give it to em. saves on bandwidth too. :)
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I think some of you have never seen or read the license agreement. You're allowed to install it on multiple machines, but only ONE may be in use at any given time. As far as I know, you don't need to have the original CD, but you need to have the license (you know that thingy with the MS hologram on it).

However, I don't think they're going after individual users (yet), more those who copy the CDs and actually sell them, because they're making money with MS' property.

You don't own the rights to the software, you only own the license to use it on one computer at a time.

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ya dont rip it off billgates needs the money?
but then again i did hear billgates say he was going to give almost all hes money away so maybe we can all help anyone got a copy of win me?
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These points are all understood and taken. But that said -can it be done? And if so, how?
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Jayyy,


I think Knine pretty much wrapped it up. The directory that contains the executables is not the only place where critical files are kept. The windows and several of its subdirectories will have .ini .dll .ovl and whatnot scattered about. The win.ini is edited as is other important .ini's. Of course the registration also has a myriad of entries. I am afraid an "xcopy" won't quite do it my friend.

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A program must be actuall installed on the computer that will use it, with an installation program, so the it will get registered with windopws and all file associations cab be made and shared system files can be utilized. (the DLL's, Dynamic Link Library files)

The ONLY exception basically is a program written in pure Assembly language or HELP programs. There are some other as well. Any app that uses the Windows System files must be registered in the Registry in order for it to function.

You can copy all of the Office files from the CD & send them little by little or in one huge .zip file. They then must be put in a directory and the installation program must be run.(setup.exe)

You could probably get away with just copying the installed files from one computer & then creating the directories for them on another computer. You will then have to manually add ALL of the Registry keys, in essence you must duplicate those registry entries that the installation program makes on installation. This could take upwards to 10 hours of editing, creating the keys by hand and then crossing one's fingers in the hope that a needed key wasn't overlooked which can play havoc with the computer and one's sanity!

I have a burned copy of Office 2K. I use it for a coater cause Office sucks! It has way too many unnecessary bundled apps on it that can not be avoided, even on a custom install.

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Originally posted by TonyT:
A program must be actuall installed on the computer that will use it, with an installation program, so the it will get registered with windopws and all file associations cab be made and shared system files can be utilized. (the DLL's, Dynamic Link Library files)

The ONLY exception basically is a program written in pure Assembly language or HELP programs. There are some other as well. Any app that uses the Windows System files must be registered in the Registry in order for it to function.

You can copy all of the Office files from the CD & send them little by little or in one huge .zip file. They then must be put in a directory and the installation program must be run.(setup.exe)

You could probably get away with just copying the installed files from one computer & then creating the directories for them on another computer. You will then have to manually add ALL of the Registry keys, in essence you must duplicate those registry entries that the installation program makes on installation. This could take upwards to 10 hours of editing, creating the keys by hand and then crossing one's fingers in the hope that a needed key wasn't overlooked which can play havoc with the computer and one's sanity!

I have a burned copy of Office 2K. I use it for a coater cause Office sucks! It has way too many unnecessary bundled apps on it that can not be avoided, even on a custom install.

[ 02-14-2001: Message edited by: TonyT ]
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What program suite do you like to use? I avoided MS like it was MS ( :) ). I succumbed when all else was slim pickins'

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Isnt the next revision of office and windows going to be produced with built in pirating countermeasures that make it impossible to install on more than one computer or burn it?

I am going over to Linux as soon as they get a GUI version and decent support for games. I hate Microsoft.
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damn, thanks anyways.

btw, does anyone know how to install a program from all those sectionalized winrar parts. I've never used winrar before so i'm not sure how to go about it.
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I keep getting this weird thing where the decompressed folder have more compressed folders in them. what am i doing wrong? do you know exactly what steps to go thru? maybe i'm not unzipping them properly.
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What program suite do you like to use? I avoided MS like it was MS ( ). I succumbed when all else was slim pickins'

I should have been a bit more clear in that response. Sorry. The MS Office apps themselves are not bad programs. I just don't dig the way they get integrated into Windows OS when the whole package is installed, even when doing a custom install choice. Certain key system files get overwritten, which can lead tp problems using other installed programs that share those .dll's. MS has seen to it that Office becomes THE PREDOMINANT apps to then be used by the computer owner who installs it. This in itself is not a bad idea as it was designed for business use anyway, and whole companies use the same programs. But for the home user it is far better to just get the individual apps separately & install them.

This is not an economical process either way you do it! I loaded up a custom install of Office2k Pro, basicall only installing MS Word and some addons for it.(templates, spell checker, etc) My system got trashed cause some other Office stuff installed by default. There are no ways to not have this garbage installed during set up. I uninstalled it all & restored a reg back up!

But, installing Word 97 from the Office 97 CD is a smooth deal! A no BS installation when choosing a custom setup.

I have no real need for the rest of the Office apps and honestly, Wordpad is all I really need for a word processor! StarOffice is on the wife's machine & it runs smooth & faster than MS Office. And it's free!

As I should have said earlier, the Office apps are great products as stand alones for home use, but exxxxxxxxxxxpensive!
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Originally posted by jayyy:
damn, thanks anyways.

btw, does anyone know how to install a program from all those sectionalized winrar parts. I've never used winrar before so i'm not sure how to go about it.
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