Another good reason to wait before grabbing MS updates

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:40 pm

http://www.cnet.com/software/0-8888-8-21253714-1.html

Just a headsup.

If your XP tells you there is an new update don't allow it till some time passes, and you read up on whether or not it has caused any problems. This type of problem seems to be getting worse, especially for XP users.

64bit · Post by **64bit** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:48 pm

Yeah i agree its getting rather ridiculous. I got burnt on one of my systems (XP) by the 811493 "fix" seems they fixed that one. I've instituted a 2 week wait on all critical updates.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 10:04 pm

64bit, I'm curious. Did that #811493 update fix itself by removing the old one, and installing the new one by itself?
Or did you find out about it, and manually remove, and install the good version?

I'm wondering if given time it would have fixed itself, anyone know?

mwkirchner · Post by **mwkirchner** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 10:15 pm

I got burnt by MS about a month ago. I updated and next thing I know I am spending as long as 10 minutes from bootup to get to my desktop. I never thought about an update being the problem ... and ended up reformating to fix the problem. Shortly after I found out that the update I had downloaded was the culprit.

After formating ... I downloaded the SP1 only ... I have not touched anything else on that site since. It has made me gunshy.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 10:25 pm

I had problems with this one on 2000

http://support.microsoft.com/default.as ... LN;Q329170

It would actually cause the machine to hang at shutdown.

64bit · Post by **64bit** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 10:34 pm

Originally posted by Norm
64bit, I'm curious. Did that #811493 update fix itself by removing the old one, and installing the new one by itself?
Or did you find out about it, and manually remove, and install the good version?

I'm wondering if given time it would have fixed itself, anyone know?

No I have Auto Update Disabled. What Happened was I made my weekly visit to WU and installed all critical updates after casually looking them over. Upon reboot I start experiencing a dramatic slowdown when clicking on shortcuts to open apps and when traversing directories in Explorer. I had no clue as to what it could be as I havent installed any apps recently that would run at start-up and the only thing I had running at start-up was norton. So I sat there and thought then did a google search. After a few reads it became clear that that paticular update was "bad". You could tell cause the shortcut icons would stay depressed for up to 5 seconds until the app finally opened. So I uninstalled like suggested in the articles and all was well. then I kept tabs on it and its seems microsoft fixed it last week sometime. I havent installed it yet,im still a bit gunshy...

Im not sure if it would have fixed it self or not. I would imagine as the new version is on the WU site now .

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 10:39 pm

Originally posted by 64bit
No I have Auto Update Disabled. What Happened was I made my weekly visit to WU and installed all critical updates after casually looking them over. Upon reboot I start experiencing a dramatic slowdown when clicking on shortcuts to open apps and when traversing directories in Explorer. I had no clue as to what it could be as I havent installed any apps recently that would run at start-up and the only thing I had running at start-up was norton. So I sat there and thought then did a google search. After a few reads it became clear that that paticular update was "bad". You could tell cause the shortcut icons would stay depressed for up to 5 seconds until the app finally opened. So I uninstalled like suggested in the articles and all was well. then I kept tabs on it and its seems microsoft fixed it last week sometime. I havent installed it yet,im still a bit gunshy...

One of my clients got that update and all the icons on her desktop would disappear when she walked away from the PC. They would re-appear about twenty minutes later.

It was as though it slowed the desktop refresh down to a crawl.
It also caused her printer to not work. Once it was removed everything was normal again.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:35 pm

Good read, thanks Norm.

What have we learned from this episode? First, never update software on a Friday. Seriously. One reason Microsoft sends out its security bulletins on Wednesdays is so that your IT department is around to help you if there are problems. Second, don't count on Microsoft to keep you informed when something goes wrong with its software. And third, we've learned that you shouldn't download a Microsoft update until it's been around for a few days, just in case it shuts down your Internet connection--or worse. Sadly, that's the reality of Trustworthy Computing.

BumperSticker · Post by **BumperSticker** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 6:21 pm

My computer is running just fine....Ultima Online and Battlefield function perfectly...Its folding as happy as can be...No updates for me thanks...

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 7:18 pm

maybe the ppl testing these need a raise or something, its gotten really bad as of late.

RoundEye · Post by **RoundEye** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 7:53 pm

Windows update has hosed my Win2k server install twice in the past two weeks. I'm getting really tired of it, and I don't know which critical update it is.

I'm getting ready to do my fourth format/install of my server this month. I need my pc running big time so that I can get to my office and other things.

Randy · Post by **Randy** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 8:48 pm

ugg... i just updated but havent restarted (installed yet )

what to do?

RoundEye · Post by **RoundEye** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 10:40 pm

Originally posted by Randy
ugg... i just updated but havent restarted (installed yet )

what to do?

Get on your knees and pray.

tr87526 · Post by **tr87526** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 11:08 pm

WU is telling me I need 3 critical updates, 818529, 811493 and Q815021. I think they are 2-3 weeks old. Anybody had trouble with any of these?

binksfan · Post by **binksfan** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 11:55 pm

tr.....

that middle one, 811493 is the one they're talking about in prev. posts. it fux0red my machine too! I uninstalled it and machine was fine again. waited 2 weeks and then updated with new version. everything still works on my machines with all of the updates you mentioned.

FunK · Post by **FunK** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 12:57 am

I have no need for that POS and the crap it loads on your PC. My last XP install is still hosed after an update (DX 9, SP, and all security patches). That was all following a brand new install of XP.

I don't know which one messed it up and I don't care. I haven't booted XP since that day and it's been several months...

Perhaps I'll visit that update site for postarity. Lord knows I don't need it for any OS updates....

kilroy · Post by **kilroy** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:30 am

AAAHHAHAHAHA!! Apply patch to "improve" your O/S, another M$ "hidden feature", hilarity ensues. So typical. No wonder even Steve Ballmer is selling his stock in M$...

*looks around for Red Hat 9 CD's, cracks knuckles, thinks, "OK, time to nuke and pave."*

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 10:45 am

I'm running Win 2k Pro SP3, all updates except Q329170 and Q811493. The 493 hosed my system but uninstalling it fixed it. Other than that no problems that I know of.