How do you know when Jesus is in your heart?

RicRogue · Post by **RicRogue** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:28 pm

Prey521 wrote:Who's arguing? It looks to me like we're agreeing

That wasn't to you. That was to those who think otherwise.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:08 pm

sito wrote:Do what you think is right, not what everyone else thinks is right. Just my opinion.

I'm not suggesting that I need to be like others , Just want to see how people know when they have jesun in their heart. Not even sure thats the right way to word it.

I beleive the same thing sito!

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:16 pm

Joint Chiefs of Staff wrote:EA your thoughts are 95% along the same lines as mine when it comes to believing and faith.

Same here.

I personally believe that God has nothing to do with our lives good or bad, becuase if God does, God has lots of explaining to do.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:17 pm

EvilAngel wrote:I'm not suggesting that I need to be like others , Just want to see how people know when they have jesun in their heart. Not even sure thats the right way to word it.

I beleive the same thing sito!

i know it because i've asked him to come into my life, i have sincerely prayed with him and admitted that i am a sinner and asked him to forgive me and save me from this life, i wanted to be re-born through him and told him i believe that he is the lord savior who died on the cross for our sins, then i went through the baptism, the dunking under the water in front of the whole church to let them know what i've done

it is all about getting down on your knees, humbling yourself, and praying 1 on 1 with him, you either accept him as savior, or you don't

if you do accept him as savior tell him, pray to him right now, tell him you accept him into your life and tell him you believe he died on the cross for our sins and ask him to forgive you of yours, that's all it takes man, if you truely mean it, he will know, and so will you

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:20 pm

Prey521 wrote:J,

Being born again is when you accept Christ as your one and only personal Savior, also you don't have to be baptized to go to Heaven.

In the midst of the storm that is life, when things are going so bad that you think that they can't get any worse, but yet you feel peace in your soul cuz you know that The Lord is on your side, that's how you know that God is with you.

As for the whole catholic thing, it was the catholic churches problem to deal with, not the Protestants (Christians). I can almost guarantee you that had similar situations happened in Christian churches, they would be handled a lot differently. This whole catholic priest scandal is a joke and is a black mark on ANY religion.

I have asked Christ to be my personal savior, in jail, in times of desperation but I have never really felt anything in my heart. I felt I was very sincere at the time. I have never felt it in my heart when times were good either.

Catholic Churches: What I'm saying is that no one came to the aide of the children becaue the names of the accused were not given (that I know of at least) and were allowed to stay or were shifted to a new Church. The potencial for another act is high with the new meat. IMO. Either way I just could not beleive that there were no protests for turning over the accused. If a black man gets hit by a cop it's on EVERY fing channel accross the globe with protests and the like but when its priests molesting children, eh, what the hell.

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:22 pm

You pray, but you dont hear anything back. Youve never heard anything back, the only thing you justify as hearing back are events in life which would happen (and do happen) regardless of if you had done so or not. This is one of the main reasons I dont believe in any of the sort. Those people that fall over and shake speaking in "tongues" and all that, it makes me die laughing. In their own mind, they know they are doing it themselves and not " a supreme being".

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:23 pm

EvilAngel wrote:

Catholic Churches: What I'm saying is that no one came to the aide of the children becaue the names of the accused were not given (that I know of at least) and were allowed to stay or were shifted to a new Church. The potencial for another act is high with the new meat. IMO. Either way I just could not beleive that there were no protests for turning over the accused. If a black man gets hit by a cop it's on EVERY fing channel accross the globe with protests and the like but when its priests molesting children, eh, what the hell.

Yes this bothers me more then you would ever know. For one I dont understand how an adult can do that to a child. For two, how other adults can turn their backs on children and not face the facts about other adults they consider friends or someone they look up to will deny the problem even exists and do anything about it.

Unfortunately this not only happens in the church but in families every single day. It is extremely sad.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:25 pm

EvilAngel wrote:I have asked Christ to be my personal savior, in jail, in times of desperation but I have never really felt anything in my heart. I felt I was very sincere at the time. I have never felt it in my heart when times were good either.

that's tough, see, if you truely did accept Christ as your savior and prayed to him, then that's it, you are in his book

now it is time to build your faith, i.e. going to Church, communing with others

but beware cause the devil is now after you, he's already got un-saved people, he likes to concentrate on those that are saved, to bring them down, don't let him, read the bible, learn the word of god, it is your tool against the devil, go to church, build up your faith in Christ

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:37 pm

EvilAngel wrote:I have asked Christ to be my personal savior, in jail, in times of desperation but I have never really felt anything in my heart. I felt I was very sincere at the time. I have never felt it in my heart when times were good either.

Catholic Churches: What I'm saying is that no one came to the aide of the children becaue the names of the accused were not given (that I know of at least) and were allowed to stay or were shifted to a new Church. The potencial for another act is high with the new meat. IMO. Either way I just could not beleive that there were no protests for turning over the accused. If a black man gets hit by a cop it's on EVERY fing channel accross the globe with protests and the like but when its priests molesting children, eh, what the hell.

Why do you suppose a man who died 2000 years ago has not come to you in your time of emotional and spiritual need? He is a focus. You are to look to Him as a guide by which to live your life. If you are not prepared to do so, you are the smoker who cannot quit. Is Christ, G-d, Allah, Vishnu or any other diety a physical reality? That is up to you to decide, but to live your life by the ideals that was set forth in their respective names might place some order in your existance. What works for my friends Ric, Steve (Bigmo) and Porfirio may not work for myself, Stephen (Paft), TonyT or Chris. The great news is that your spiritual journey is life long. Do not be discouraged if you cannot make sense of this world, for you would be in the company of some of the wisest men that ever lived.... as well as a couple of dunces.

david

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:38 pm

Evil, you dont feel it in your heart because you dont truely believe in it. I am the same way, its human nature to reach out to anything at times of great dispair. Your heart is always right, your heart tells you what YOU believe, and theres nothing wrong with that. Dont feel pressured to believe things because of influences.

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:39 pm

Regarding Catholicism. Please do not judge the whole of the faith on the machinations of those who abused power while hiding behind His name. This evil is ancient and has worn a million garments.

david

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:46 pm

two things

jovah witnesses have the same/simialar promblems with the counsel as they call it becuase they govern the hall i think, since a coucil members had moslated, the kids have no one to complain niether the parents.

Find your own conecpt of god or a higher power my .02

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:04 am

IF you have to ask, he is NOT in your heart

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:12 am

[quote="BaLa"]IF you have to ask, he is NOT in your heart ]

he or it is still with you even if you ask you aware of it.

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:14 am

mccoffee wrote:he or it is still with you even if you ask you aware of it.

it was kind of a joke
I hope it doesn't come across wrong..

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:16 am

nepenthe wrote:Regarding Catholicism. Please do not judge the whole of the faith on the machinations of those who abused power while hiding behind His name. This evil is ancient and has worn a million garments.

david

thank you david. there are good and bad in every religion.

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:38 am

BaLa wrote:it was kind of a joke
I hope it doesn't come across wrong..

i wasn't exectly sure what you ment since you said joke it cleared up.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:14 am

nepenthe wrote:Regarding Catholicism. Please do not judge the whole of the faith on the machinations of those who abused power while hiding behind His name. This evil is ancient and has worn a million garments.

david

Well said. Too bad people always tend to do that, stereotype the whole based on the actions of a few.

RicRogue · Post by **RicRogue** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:49 am

Ghosthunter wrote:Same here.

I personally believe that God has nothing to do with our lives good or bad, becuase if God does, God has lots of explaining to do.

Our Infinate God has to explain His actions to you? Are you His boss? Would you ask the CEO of your company to explain a decision he made to you, and yet how much more greater is God. Wow, you are very prideful to think you are greater than God, the Creator of everything.

RicRogue · Post by **RicRogue** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:53 am

EvilAngel wrote:I have asked Christ to be my personal savior, in jail, in times of desperation but I have never really felt anything in my heart. I felt I was very sincere at the time. I have never felt it in my heart when times were good either.

Then you are saved. Salvation is not a feeling, it is a fact. If you pray for forgivness, you are saved. Amen. There are many times in our early Christian walk, which the devil will try to make you doubt your faith. Know this, Once His, Always His. Follow Him.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:03 am

RicRogue wrote:Our Infinate God has to explain His actions to you? Are you His boss? Would you ask the CEO of your company to explain a decision he made to you, and yet how much more greater is God. Wow, you are very prideful to think you are greater than God, the Creator of everything.

Well since I dont believe in your beliefs it does not apply to me.