Bin laden Speaks!

TEH WIN · Post by **TEH WIN** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 2:25 pm

On the news

funky · Post by **funky** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 2:27 pm

What did he said?

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 2:28 pm

It's almost as if he's admitting the attacks on NY....

Now he's babbling about all of his problems being our fault...sounds like a little child not getting his way...

TEH WIN · Post by **TEH WIN** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 2:28 pm

He says god cursed the UNITED STATES

drdoug99 · Post by **drdoug99** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 2:28 pm

i'm watching it right now on ABC

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 2:29 pm

He's making it sound like we are attacking Islam while putting on the face of attacking terrorism...

funky · Post by **funky** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 2:30 pm

So.. we know where he is right now, or where he was before now, right? we can trace the video or something.. unless Osama hacked into one of the major stations with one of his satalites..

TEH WIN · Post by **TEH WIN** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 2:31 pm

On MSNBC they just pointed something out... In the video it was light out. But its dark over there right now..

that tape was pre-recorded.

hes long gone by now

Mehmet · Post by **Mehmet** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 2:42 pm

i agree with a couple of things he said (NOTE, i dont support him)

The israelis should just get out of palestinian terratory. Hell a bunch of problems would be solved if they just moved out of there..

And, if those american troops in Arabia, in Mecca And Medina just moved out, then a bunch of problems would be solved too. Hell, if you try and go into mecca/medina, it even says when your going to into the city, noone other than muslims may enter. Its not like a tourist spot where anyone can enter, its a place of pilgramage, and a very holy place too.

yeah, thats my $.02

EvilAjax · Post by **EvilAjax** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 3:08 pm

It's funny because you think this is a war about killing all muslims.. when it's not. It's a war about terrorism. America strikes back... **** Bin Laden and his mom.

That's my 2 cents

Mehmet · Post by **Mehmet** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 3:56 pm

aileron172 · Post by **aileron172** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 3:58 pm

It's no longer about diplomacy this bastard killed directly and indirectly 6000 American civilians. We are not the terrorists here what goes on in Isreal and Mecca and the such is beside the point. American blood was shed no matter what we did to them did not warrant killing innocent people. IMO this attack is a long time comming and now we need to see it through. As the president said this is not a war on Islam and muslims. I realy hope that muslims and followers of Islam don't share the view of the Taliban and Osma Bin Laden. Killing in the name of religion IMO makes God angry and if you really want a holy war piss of God and see what happens!!!!!!!

God Bless America

Mehmet · Post by **Mehmet** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 4:02 pm

Originally posted by aileron172
It's no longer about diplomacy this bastard killed directly and indirectly 6000 American civilians. We are not the terrorists here what goes on in Isreal and Mecca and the such is beside the point. American blood was shed no matter what we did to them did not warrant killing innocent people. IMO this attack is a long time comming and now we need to see it through.

God Bless America

i think that what goes on in israel and mecca is the point. Did you listen to his speech?

TRILL · Post by **TRILL** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 4:10 pm

Originally posted by vegeto
i agree with a couple of things he said (NOTE, i dont support him)

The israelis should just get out of palestinian terratory. Hell a bunch of problems would be solved if they just moved out of there..

And, if those american troops in Arabia, in Mecca And Medina just moved out, then a bunch of problems would be solved too. Hell, if you try and go into mecca/medina, it even says when your going to into the city, noone other than muslims may enter. Its not like a tourist spot where anyone can enter, its a place of pilgramage, and a very holy place too.

yeah, thats my $.02

There are no American troops in Mecca or Medina, period. We are in Saudi Arabia by invitation. If we leave, Saddam will run rampant over the region. No one wants that. Do you?

aileron172 · Post by **aileron172** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 4:13 pm

Yes I did and to be honest to use it as justtification for killing thousands of people is flat WRONG!!!!. I am sure you are not doing that right? But the very fact this happened and so many were killed is the forefront pulling people out of here and there will not solve anything. The world is not a perfect place and we all are treated unfairy but to attack us that way is not the answer.

Muslims and arabs are not to blame for this I know that. To use terrorism as a form of retaliation is what make this hole situation wrong. Please don't misunderstand me I am not by no means a Muslim hater or anything like that I just feel that terrorism is not the way to vent your frustration over what is going on in other countries

Mehmet · Post by **Mehmet** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 4:20 pm

Originally posted by aileron172
Yes I did and to be honest to use it as justtification for killing thousands of people is flat WRONG!!!!. I am sure you are not doing that right? But the very fact this happened and so many were killed is the forefront pulling people out of here and there will not solve anything. The world is not a perfect place and we all are treated unfairy but to attack us that way is not the answer.

no i know that is not a good reason to do it, but think about it, if they had just moved out of palestine,(like bin laden wants) then we wouldnt have as many problems with people hating us.

I mean right now, the palestinians hate us, a bunch of other people hate us.

Noevo · Post by **Noevo** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 4:24 pm

Originally posted by vegeto

no i know that is not a good reason to do it, but think about it, if they had just moved out of palestine,(like bin laden wants) then we wouldnt have as many problems with people hating us.

I mean right now, the palestinians hate us, a bunch of other people hate us.

if they would just do what bin laden wants? what the hell is that?

quit trolling and do your homework

aileron172 · Post by **aileron172** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 4:30 pm

Well right there you just said it all. WTF dude terrorism is not a way to show your dilike for a people. Do what Bin Ladden wants My God the ******* just killed thousands of people there is no justafacation for that PERIOD!!!!! Again Muslims and Arabs did not do this that is not what I am saying. This was done in the name of Islam and Allah.

Mehmet · Post by **Mehmet** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 4:31 pm

Originally posted by Noevo

if they would just do what bin laden wants? what the hell is that?

quit trolling and do your homework

dood, which side are you on when it comes to this israel versus palestine thing?

Im thinking israel. Hell you probably thing the palestinians are the ones killing a lot of israelis. Ever check the death count? Its more like this, about 6 palestinians to 1 isreali. Im pretty pissed off too at the US for supporting israel against palestine (I dont support bin laden tho).

"No american will have peace until the palestinians have their land back." Thats what bin laden said, so either we just try and stop the war between israel and palestine, or keep on trying to hunt down bin laden and have even more attacks happen.

Noevo · Post by **Noevo** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 4:32 pm

im not on the Israeli or Palestinian side. I just don't believe that people should do things that bin Laden wants them to. He's not the best person to take political advice from

Mehmet · Post by **Mehmet** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 4:34 pm

Originally posted by Noevo
im not on the Israeli or Palestinian side. I just don't believe that people should do things that bin Laden wants them to. He's not the best person to take political advice from

sorry about that aqusation (sp?) about you. but, then again, im not taking advice from him, i already had these thoughts before 9/11. Maybe it would solve a lot of stuff if hunted down bin laden, and try to stop the war in Isreal.

Noevo · Post by **Noevo** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 4:39 pm

Originally posted by vegeto

sorry about that aqusation (sp?) about you. but, then again, im not taking advice from him, i already had these thoughts before 9/11. Maybe it would solve a lot of stuff if hunted down bin laden, and try to stop the war in Isreal.

Thats the thing though, I have no idea whether we should be there or not. I am not from nor do I have roots there. problem is the people who tell us we shouldn't be there are the ones who want to be there and the ones who are there were put there 60 years ago and I don't believe that was a US only decision. but I also don't believe that if the Isrealis left that the fighting between them and the Palastinians would stop. so whats thepoint anyway? Say the palastinians move in. Do you think Israel is not going to fight to get back in? Just a circle. They need to learn to coexist. As far as the US goes, it is standing by the decision made so many years ago. IMHO of course

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 4:44 pm

Originally posted by vegeto

sorry about that aqusation (sp?) about you. but, then again, im not taking advice from him, i already had these thoughts before 9/11. Maybe it would solve a lot of stuff if hunted down bin laden, and try to stop the war in Isreal.

Thank you vegeto.

You once again make me belive that the US's younger generation can and will be succesful. You have been able to seperate fact and fiction in a situtaion that affects you from two fronts. One being that yer of Middle Eastern decent, and the other being that yer an American. A hard thing to do, espically when emotions seem to be riding roughshod over logic in these odd times.

Back to the problem at hand....

NEVER will there be a simple solution. The middle east is kinda the birthplace of life and civilization. Been lotsa time for people to get wierd thoughts into thier heads on whom to like and dislike. Many varying races/religions/lifestyles. True harmony could very well be impossible. I doubt the removal of the Israeli state would shore up any type of stability. I doubt that finding Osama Bend Over will garner any lasting peace. That region is just a hotbed, plain and simple. So arguing over small things and gettin bent outta shape over minutia will only lead to ulcers, and no real world benefits.

That area of the world will require constant monitoring and peace brokering, sad commentary but I feel that is the case. These are just the thoughts of a semi-informed idiot, use at your own risk.

aileron172 · Post by **aileron172** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 4:48 pm

Vegeto I know there are atrocities going on in Palastine and the West bank and Isreal and Palastine are at the forefront of carrying these out. And Osma Bin Laden is not going to say "oh you took out the forces here and you did this for me there" that
somehow he is going to be happy and not lash out. The fact is terrorism must be stopped and he is at the forefront of terrorism. I am assuming you are a Muslim

. In this country you are allowed to be what ever you want and have opinions and all that. Just make sure you don't in some way try to justify what Bin Laden did that would be wrong.

Be well

Mehmet · Post by **Mehmet** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 5:01 pm

yes, i agree that we should stop terrorism, but also stop what it think is terrorism in israel. Im not saying that the palestinians should take all of israel, im saying the israelis should stop being so greedy over a small piece of land. Let them have it.

Like i said, yes, bin laden should be shot, i dont support him.

And thanx brembo.

Immortal · Post by **Immortal** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 5:03 pm

no... bin laden should not be shot... that'd be too easy.... we gotta do something with him.. something usefull....

aileron172 · Post by **aileron172** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 5:16 pm

Originally posted by vegeto
yes, i agree that we should stop terrorism, but also stop what it think is terrorism in israel. Im not saying that the palestinians should take all of israel, im saying the israelis should stop being so greedy over a small piece of land. Let them have it.

Like i said, yes, bin laden should be shot, i dont support him.

And thanx brembo.

I agree with ya Vegeto peace in the mid east would be nice. So many people are dying and for what give Palastine there state it is a small request. I didn't think ya supported him and I do understand where you are comming from.

Be Well

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 5:23 pm

I have a couple of questions for anyone who would like to answer.

If Mecca is in Saudi Arabia...why do the muslims want Israel?

Why do Israelis leave Israel to live in the U.S.?

Why do Muslims live in the US?

Why does the US get accused of siding with Israel while having US forces stationed in Saudi Arabia?

Why do the Muslims/Palestinians fight the Jews of Israel over land and why do the Jews of Israel fight the Muslims over land...I thought God/Allah was universal, meaning everywhere at all times?

Why is everyone in such a rush to meet their maker?

Does war make God or Allah happy?

Does anyone know why killing over religion should be a time for rejoice? It must be a time for rejoice or else they wouldn't do it would they?

Is it easier or harder to kill someone you know?

Mehmet · Post by **Mehmet** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 5:37 pm

Originally posted by uod2001
I have a couple of questions for anyone who would like to answer.

If Mecca is in Saudi Arabia...why do the muslims want Israel?

Why do Israelis leave Israel to live in the U.S.?

Why do Muslims live in the US?

Why does the US get accused of siding with Israel while having US forces stationed in Saudi Arabia?

Why do the Muslims/Palestinians fight the Jews of Israel over land and why do the Jews of Israel fight the Muslims over land...I thought God/Allah was universal, meaning everywhere at all times?

Why is everyone in such a rush to meet their maker?

Does war make God or Allah happy?

Does anyone know why killing over religion should be a time for rejoice? It must be a time for rejoice or else they wouldn't do it would they?

Is it easier or harder to kill someone you know?

hey uod, nice set of q's. anyways.

the muslims dont want israel, they just want their share of land in israel, and its not the muslims that want it, its the palestinians who are muslims.

Well, you cant really ask one person why do you live here, and not ask all the others.. Some people come on political Asylum, others, family problems, others dont like what the government is doing. Others just cant cope with the economy in their own country.

I think that the rush is because they want to get away from all the misery in this world, and have all their questions answered when they meet their lord.

Cant answer if war makes god/allah happy. Since god has his ways, our interpretation of right/wrong is a lot different than what he knows to be right/wrong.

Most of these are my opinions.

Damn it, i gotta go. Gotta do this stupid essay thingy.

Mehmet · Post by **Mehmet** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 11:47 pm

bump for UoD

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Mon Oct 08, 2001 12:47 am

Ya know what woulda been funny, if a missile woulda blown him to bits in the middle of that interview!!!

Immortal · Post by **Immortal** » Mon Oct 08, 2001 12:54 am

I saw the whole tape... it was just repeating what he said before..

I just get angry about all these people.. what they say... not gonna vent but I'm gonna say one thing...

they say.. america supply the other countries weapons and they fight a war and then they blame america for supplying the weapons..

lemme think... hmmm they're just merchants making a buck.. now it's their fault for selling weapons?!

it's like.. oh no.. america selling us hamburgers.. which in turn make us fat... then in turn make us dumb... no wonder my country is so poor.. wah wah wah..

all that is just an excuse to attack... and the reason is... yer cows are fatter than ours.

they don't make sense!! well.. unless I've got something crossed in the lines.. but that's how I feel..

*note.. if yer angry at me being ignorant after reading this.. please be gentle...

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Mon Oct 08, 2001 12:56 am

Originally posted by Immortal
I saw the whole tape... it was just repeating what he said before..

I just get angry about all these people.. what they say... not gonna vent but I'm gonna say one thing...

they say.. america supply the other countries weapons and they fight a war and then they blame america for supplying the weapons..

lemme think... hmmm they're just merchants making a buck.. now it's their fault for selling weapons?!

it's like.. oh no.. america selling us hamburgers.. which in turn make us fat... then in turn make us dumb... no wonder my country is so poor.. wah wah wah..

all that is just an excuse to attack... and the reason is... yer cows are fatter than ours.

they don't make sense!! well.. unless I've got something crossed in the lines.. but that's how I feel..

*note.. if yer angry at me being ignorant after reading this.. please be gentle...

Immortal-

Yer trying to apply logic to a man that has wadded logic up and tossed it out the window. Trying to figure out Bin Dover will only cause headaches. Don't go there.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Mon Oct 08, 2001 1:01 am

Originally posted by aileron172
It's no longer about diplomacy this bastard killed directly and indirectly 6000 American civilians. We are not the terrorists here what goes on in Isreal and Mecca and the such is beside the point. American blood was shed no matter what we did to them did not warrant killing innocent people. IMO this attack is a long time comming and now we need to see it through. As the president said this is not a war on Islam and muslims. I realy hope that muslims and followers of Islam don't share the view of the Taliban and Osma Bin Laden. Killing in the name of religion IMO makes God angry and if you really want a holy war piss of God and see what happens!!!!!!!

God Bless America

Exactly... Osmama drew first blood, regardless of what has happened in the past within the middle east his attack on the US was unwarrented.. He didn't even have the balls to say it was him..pfft. That coward!

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Mon Oct 08, 2001 1:09 am

[off subject] Nice sig EvilAngel

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