Barry hit 755

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:05 pm

Hopefully Alex Rodriguez or Ken Griffey Jr. will come along down the road and blow by him like he was standing still, nulifying his so-called record.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:05 pm

Even though I'm not convinced that his enhancing drugs actually give him more eye to hand coordination in actually helping him hit the ball, that record will be forever tarnished.

Noevo · Post by **Noevo** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:08 pm

**** him

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:09 pm

From USA Today:

Several fans held up asterisk signs and Bonds was booed as he headed to left field at the end of the inning.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:09 pm

Noevo wrote:**** him

Huh? star him?

Noevo · Post by **Noevo** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:10 pm

downhill wrote:Huh? star him?

sure, that works lol

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:11 pm

downhill wrote:Huh? star him?

*^4

Asterick to the power of 4 heh

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:12 pm

couldn't care less

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:14 pm

downhill wrote:Even though I'm not convinced that his enhancing drugs actually give him more eye to hand coordination in actually helping him hit the ball, that record will be forever tarnished.

I don't know if many people are doubting that Bonds is (or was) a great ballplayer, but many of us are quite saddened that a solid hitter has left a black mark on his own record by (allegedly) 'roiding up.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:23 pm

Jim wrote:I don't know if many people are doubting that Bonds is (or was) a great ballplayer, but many of us are quite saddened that a solid hitter has left a black mark on his own record by (allegedly) 'roiding up.

Yep, I happen to agree with that. I was only making a comment showing the other side of the coin. IMHO, even though I did comment on his ability to find the ball, I suppose I should also mention that if indeed it's shown that he's really doing enhanching drugs, and it looks like that's a given, then your more than right, that record is tarnished. After all, it would still give him an advantage in swinging hard and even prolong his involvment in the game, thus giving him more time to pursue the record.

Randy · Post by **Randy** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:23 pm

just say no to Barry

help fight the war on Barrys

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:30 pm

Awesome job Barry!

Noevo · Post by **Noevo** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:30 pm

Randy wrote:just say to to Barry

help fight the war on Barrys

i love canadian beer lol

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:34 pm

Noevo wrote:i love canadian beer lol

Randy · Post by **Randy** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:42 pm

#4

cheers barry!,, cheers to you, you sonofa yatch hole

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:18 am

Time to sell the rookies!!

Blisster · Post by **Blisster** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:23 am

BASEBALL PLAYERS TAKE STEROIDS???? SAY IT ISNT SO!!!!

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:59 am

Jim wrote:I don't know if many people are doubting that Bonds is (or was) a great ballplayer, but many of us are quite saddened that a solid hitter has left a black mark on his own record by (allegedly) 'roiding up.

There is nothing allegedly about it. It's already been proven that he used steroids. Barry's argument though is that he had no idea he had.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:42 am

downhill wrote:Yep, I happen to agree with that. I was only making a comment showing the other side of the coin. IMHO, even though I did comment on his ability to find the ball, I suppose I should also mention that if indeed it's shown that he's really doing enhanching drugs, and it looks like that's a given, then your more than right, that record is tarnished. After all, it would still give him an advantage in swinging hard and even prolong his involvment in the game, thus giving him more time to pursue the record.

right! did Hank Aaron do the enhancing drugs?

Think · Post by **Think** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:57 am

Blisster wrote:BASEBALL PLAYERS TAKE STEROIDS???? SAY IT ISNT SO!!!!

Why bother - the sport sucks.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:07 pm

Think wrote:Why bother - the sport sucks.

agreed

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:09 pm

Sava700 wrote:agreed

seems like all sports have a black eye... Dog fighting, oui's, point fixxing, doping (TDF) steroids...

Brk · Post by **Brk** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:15 pm

Guess what?

This **** doesn't matter that much!

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:21 pm

Burke wrote:Guess what?

This **** doesn't matter that much!

neither does most the crap posted here

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:54 pm

I forgot to add the

and the

Blisster · Post by **Blisster** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:41 pm

Dan wrote:I forgot to add the and the

its a good thing you added those, I was about to report your post!

knightmare · Post by **knightmare** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:58 pm

I'm sure multi-millionaires like Barry, could really care less, as long as they are paid...

Juiced up players, juiced up balls, corked/pine tar bats,...

where there is money to be made, everyone wants the edge****

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:19 pm

Roody wrote:There is nothing allegedly about it. It's already been proven that he used steroids. Barry's argument though is that he had no idea he had.

His supporters still throw out the fact that Mr. Bonds has still yet to fail a single drug test.

Don't get me wrong, I believe Bonds knowingly took the stuff, but without more proof, his record will stand.

I'm sure Giamatti has been rolling in his grave more than a few times over this issue alone.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:22 pm

Jim wrote:His supporters still throw out the fact that Mr. Bonds has still yet to fail a single drug test.

Don't get me wrong, I believe Bonds knowingly took the stuff, but without more proof, his record will stand.

I'm sure Giamatti has been rolling in his grave more than a few times over this issue alone.

I agree, but man he is definitely guilty. You ever read Book of Shadows. The crap they got on him is mind blowing. The sad thing is Barry had amazing talent even before he started using that crap. Sure he likely wouldn't have broken the record had he not taken the stuff, but he could have easily gone down as the greatest player in my generation for sure. Unfortunately, he chose to put that in question when he started doing that crap.

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:27 pm

All I want for Christmas: An asterisk, and a vow from the BBWAA never to elect Bonds into the Hall of Fame.

EDIT: And yes, I did read the book and wholeheartedly recommend it to anyone with an interest in baseball. Not that this stuff hasn't gone on in the past, but crap like this is why my interest in the sport is only a tiny fraction of what it was in the 80's and (pre-strike) 90's.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:30 pm

Jim wrote:All I want for Christmas: An asterisk, and a vow from the BBWAA never to elect Bonds into the Hall of Fame.

EDIT: And yes, I did read the book and wholeheartedly recommend it to anyone with an interest in baseball. Not that this stuff hasn't gone on in the past, but crap like this is why my interest in the sport is only a tiny fraction of what it was in the 80's and (pre-strike) 90's.

Agreed.

David · Post by **David** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:34 pm

Jim wrote:All I want for Christmas: An asterisk, and a vow from the BBWAA never to elect Bonds into the Hall of Fame.

EDIT: And yes, I did read the book and wholeheartedly recommend it to anyone with an interest in baseball. Not that this stuff hasn't gone on in the past, but crap like this is why my interest in the sport is only a tiny fraction of what it was in the 80's and (pre-strike) 90's.

The steroid era brought fans back. Hallowed records fell, heroes and anti-heroes roamed the ballparks, the excitement returned to the game. Sadly, it was a lie.

Gixxer · Post by **Gixxer** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:37 am

Indy wrote:Hopefully Alex Rodriguez or Ken Griffey Jr. will come along down the road and blow by him like he was standing still, nulifying his so-called record.

not sure about griffey, but arod should take this over sooner or later

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:39 am

Gixxer wrote:not sure about griffey, but arod should take this over sooner or later

Barring an injury I agree.

Spammy · Post by **Spammy** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:00 pm

Truth as it is, It is a milestone and good for him.

He is just getting a lot of slack because he is one of the few to get caught. There are tons of baseball players on Roids...

Good job Barry

Comtrad · Post by **Comtrad** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:10 pm

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

I admit I would like to have seen Hank Aaron keep the record, but I won't slam a milestone until he comes up guilty (as likely as it seems).

Spammy · Post by **Spammy** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:24 pm

Comtrad wrote:Whatever happened to guilty until proven guilty?

I admit I would like to have seen Hank Aaron keep the record, but I won't slam a milestone until he comes up guilty (as likely as it seems).

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:53 pm

Comtrad wrote:Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

I admit I would like to have seen Hank Aaron keep the record, but I won't slam a milestone until he comes up guilty (as likely as it seems).

No one disputes that, but it's already been proven that Bonds used steroids. He got away with it though because there was no specific laws prohibiting it's usage at the time in MLB. Barry Bonds is 100% guilty of using it. That has already been shown.

Ignorance as Barry claims the situation to be is not a valid defense.

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:02 pm

David wrote:The steroid era brought fans back. Hallowed records fell, heroes and anti-heroes roamed the ballparks, the excitement returned to the game. Sadly, it was a lie.

Even without being blessed with any sort of clairvoyance, it was obvious to me from the start that half of these record-breakers were simply shams, and the MLB was not going to get in their way since they were filling the ballparks again.

I don't know if the fans who ignored such an obvious farce and blindly cheered them on should be considered sellouts of simply hopeless romantics trying to cling onto what was still good about the game.