eCigs

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:38 pm

I'm not a smoker, but the idea of trying out an eCig is kinda appealing with all the flavors that exist. Cherry crush, pina colada, mint chocolate chip, mountain dew, peppermint... its crazy!

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:42 pm

They have 0 nicotine juice...

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:48 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:I'm not a smoker, but the idea of trying out an eCig is kinda appealing with all the flavors that exist. Cherry crush, pina colada, mint chocolate chip, mountain dew, peppermint... its crazy!

my sister in law uses those and loves em !

but be careful,it might make you a smoker ! LOL

fixed

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:26 pm

Dan wrote:my sister in law uses those and loves em !

but be careful,it mike make you a smoker ! LOL

Oh no! I'll have to stay away from all Mikes

Ya the 0 nicotien would be the way i'd go, its interesting seeing all the flavors available.

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:33 pm

someof the flavors are really good... right now i have banana, watermelon, cottoncandy, red bull. Banana tastes like banana flavored laffy taffy, watermelon tastes just like jolly ranchers. red bull not so much but its tastes good. A friend of mine says he is using the 0 nic to help him curb cravings for food and candy while he is on his diet.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:38 pm

The Chair Man has them.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:56 pm

yardofstuf wrote:oh no! I'll have to stay away from all mikes

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lol

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:46 pm

Bastid wrote:someof the flavors are really good... right now i have banana, watermelon, cottoncandy, red bull. Banana tastes like banana flavored laffy taffy, watermelon tastes just like jolly ranchers. red bull not so much but its tastes good. A friend of mine says he is using the 0 nic to help him curb cravings for food and candy while he is on his diet.

That sounds like a really good idea actually.

David · Post by **David** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:34 am

One of the hygienist saunters about the office puffing on one. If nothing else, it gives smokers the ability to enjoy their addiction without having to be remanded to the outdoors.

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:35 pm

David wrote:One of the hygienist saunters about the office puffing on one. If nothing else, it gives smokers the ability to enjoy their addiction without having to be remanded to the outdoors.

Many places around here will not allow any type of smoking or vaping. If you ask me, that's just plain stupid, but I guess the general public doesn't understand that it's vapor and not smoke, so they go ballistic over it.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:45 pm

The wife uses them at times when going outside to have a ciggie isn't practical. She was nervous on the plan trips down and back from Jamaica a few weeks ago...they helped calm her (even though using electronic ciggies isn't even allowed on planes).

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:38 pm

blebs wrote:Many places around here will not allow any type of smoking or vaping. If you ask me, that's just plain stupid, but I guess the general public doesn't understand that it's vapor and not smoke, so they go ballistic over it.

I had heard somewhere that they were going to label these as "tobacco" products... there is no tobacco in them. How would that be possible?

David · Post by **David** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:34 pm

Bastid wrote:I had heard somewhere that they were going to label these as "tobacco" products... there is no tobacco in them. How would that be possible?

I suppose if they have a nicotine content, they can be treated as such.

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:20 pm

I was under the impression that it was just a chemical...

David · Post by **David** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:08 pm

Bastid wrote:I was under the impression that it was just a chemical...

Like alcohol is a chemical. Again, I can only surmise that it the reason for the delineation and appropriate age restriction.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:38 am

Bastid wrote:I was under the impression that it was just a chemical...

Most of them do have nicotine.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:29 am

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Most of them do have nicotine.

Depends on what the person gets, theres options for a large, medium, small or no amount of nicotine in the flavors cartridges or whatever they are. It would be hell to try and restrict the usage of the ones with nicotine in them and not the ones without it though.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:56 am

YARDofSTUF wrote:Depends on what the person gets, theres options for a large, medium, small or no amount of nicotine in the flavors cartridges or whatever they are.

Correct....I was just stating that "most" of them do have it...as a post above thought that they didn't have any. Like I said...my wife uses them....so I'm not a stranger to them, it's not an opinion or a guess....it's fact based on actually seeing them every day for a long time.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:13 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Correct....I was just stating that "most" of them do have it...as a post above thought that they didn't have any. Like I said...my wife uses them....so I'm not a stranger to them, it's not an opinion or a guess....it's fact based on actually seeing them every day for a long time.

Do you know if they're marked differently for nicotine and non nicotine ones? Like in a way someone could say, oh you cant smoke that in here cuz its a nicotine one.

Post by **Philip** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:29 pm

The ecig has three (or more) components, one is the battery, the second is a "cartomizer" (or a combination of atomizer and liquid container) that vaporizes liquid, and the third component is the actual e-liquid. You can use different type of liquids with the same ecig.

There were FDA hearings in mid-December, the FDA is trying to establish some type of standards for safe handling of the e-liquids, etc. as there are none now. Hopefully they'll not lump the product as a nicotine delivery device, as many of the liquids simply use vegetable glycerin (or PG) and food flavoring, which is all USDA food grade approved already.

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:13 pm

I switched to e-cigs after reading Bastid and Philip conv. in gaming forum

VG has better taste and PG has better throat hit. Since you are not a smoker go for VG.

My favourite so far are Brandy and Amaretto, when I taste the amaretto it tastes crazy, it's like my saliva is on stereoids feeling like I want to eat the whole e-cig lol

Still didn't taste coconut, 2x apple, pineapple and bunch of others I finish bottle first and then move to next one. Peach tastes horrible, disgusting.

They just released modular e-cig you can connect it to computer and perform firmware updates, see how often do you smoke, inhalation and bunch of other things.

7thkevin · Post by **7thkevin** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:10 am

http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com/pr ... oduct.html

this is one i have its amazing better then the blu ecig for me, u can mix your own flavors as well, this company has had the most flavors i have seen... i have the tank. it hold lots of juice, u can also by a normal ecig from them that holds a little bit.

I have been waiting for this one its allways been sold out.. has a long battery life

http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com/pr ... oduct.html

Debbie · Post by **Debbie** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:43 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Most of them do have nicotine.

Yep, they do have nicotine. I believe two different doses. After that you can get the ones with zero nicotine if you felt the need.

Post by **Philip** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:49 am

They have custom nic levels
0mg nic...
or 6mg (like ultra-lights)
or 11mg (lights)
18mg (mediums)
24+mg (reds)

I like the juices from http://www.freedomsmokeusa.com I've heard good things about http://www.backwoodsbrew.net as well.

BMED · Post by **BMED** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:33 pm

Find the flavors you like and drip them on a suckulate nipple, you'll never go back to tabacco products again!

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:36 am

A friend of mine has been researching this and it looks like its rather easy (right now) to make your own... I dont have any links though.

Post by **Philip** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:16 am

Rivas wrote:... They just released modular e-cig you can connect it to computer and perform firmware updates, see how often do you smoke, inhalation and bunch of other things.

Who released that, I'd like to take a look ?

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:03 pm

I found this one but i dont know if its the same one Rivas was talking about... http://www.janty.com/en/mid-series Looks neat but ill wait for pricing.

I like the design and screen on this one... http://www.joyetech.com/product/details.php?gno=128 More info: http://www.joyetech.com/product/details.php?gno=130 Thats about all i could find but i wasnt very diligent.

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:30 pm

I think this may be in my future. I like it. It seems way more intuitive than other variable voltage ecigs. I dont know about quality yet but so far the price is actually cheaper than what i expected. http://revolvercig.com/evic-starter-kit.html

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:19 pm

Bastid wrote:I had heard somewhere that they were going to label these as "tobacco" products... there is no tobacco in them. How would that be possible?

You know how it is. The FDA just has to have their hands on everything, especially since big tobacco corps are now beginning to release their own ecigs. Personally, I'm sick of government regulation and intrusion to everything we can do.

Best you can do for now is join the CASAA. Sort of the NRA for ecig vapers.

http://www.casaa.org/Home_Page.php

[video=youtube;4bCKk2UzJOI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... bCKk2UzJOI[/video]

http://blog.casaa.org/2013/01/casaa-sub ... o-fda.html

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:53 pm

Thank you for the info Blebs.

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:09 pm

As for the nicotine levels I think it depends on the manufacturer, it may differentiate by a few milligrams but are basically the same. I tend to stick with made in the US brands but i did find the link my friend was talking about... Make your own ejuice:
http://wizardlabs.us/index.php?route=common/home

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:39 am

Please, all you vapers, sign this petition https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... d/RQLBYRsd

As soon as possible. Your ability to vape may well be taken away from you by the FDA. Need 11,171 more signatures before Feb 13!!!!!

Prevent the FDA from regulating or banning the sale and use of electronic cigarettes, accessories and associated liquids

The FDA has repeatedly stated its intent to propose a “deeming” regulation to apply Chapter IX of the FSPTCA to e-cigarettes. But Sections 905 and 910 would ban all e-cigarettes, and other provisions of Chapter IX would also decimate the e-cigarette industry, protect cigarette markets and otherwise threaten public health. The FDA should NOT propose or approve any regulation that would deny cigarette smokers legal or affordable access to less hazardous smokefree alternatives. ~ Bill Godshall

E-cigarettes and associated accessories and liquids are less hazardous than cigarettes and can reduce the risks of smoking. With the use of these devices millions have successfully reduced the use of cigarettes. Don't let the FDA deny us access to these alternatives to smoking.

Created: Jan 14, 2013

Undndan · Post by **Undndan** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:47 am

Rivas wrote:I switched to e-cigs after reading Bastid and Philip conv. in gaming forum

VG has better taste and PG has better throat hit. Since you are not a smoker go for VG.

My favourite so far are Brandy and Amaretto, when I taste the amaretto it tastes led bulb crazy, it's like my saliva is on stereoids feeling like I want to eat the whole e-cig lol

Still didn't taste coconut, 2x apple, pineapple and bunch of others I finish bottle first and then move to next one. Peach tastes horrible, disgusting.

They just released modular e-cig you can connect it to computer and perform firmware updates, see how often do you smoke, inhalation and bunch of other things.

I have just joined the forum and will shift e-cigs pretty soon.

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:23 am

The ProVari is another computer type Ecig or should I say original computer type.

http://www.provape.com/provari-variable ... g-s/36.htm

[video=youtube;N0bETlrt5hc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 0bETlrt5hc[/video]

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:34 pm

Yea where I work they treat you the same as smokers,you Must go outside to the smoking areas the same as real cigs.No Exceptions.

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:09 pm

Bastid wrote:A friend of mine has been researching this and it looks like its rather easy (right now) to make your own... I dont have any links though.

Nicotine is the most deadly poison, 1 drop of pure nicotine liquid into open wound is fatal. He will need a good ventilation, (not to mention he will have to cook it lol) latex gloves, face mask etc etc etc
The tar (analogue cigarettes) builds up and prevents the smoker from being able to smell the smoke. It also inhibits taste, which is largely again connected with smell, often forcing the smoker to rely on spicer food for flavoring. Not to mention cyanide and other things inside analogue cigs.

The nicotine content in tobacco products varies widely. A manufactured cigarette contains approximately 10 milligrams of nicotine, while a typical cigar has 100 to 200 milligrams of nicotine. Some premium cigars have as much as 400 milligrams of nicotine in them. People who use smokeless tobacco (chew), absorb three to four times the amount of nicotine as do their smoking counterparts, on average.

E-cigs are still pretty new, they started in 2k6 ? There is no research how does it afect people long term. We will see in 20 years or sooner.

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:03 am

Some studies, at least thus far, can be found here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ ... ation.html

Post by **Philip** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:58 pm

Rivas wrote:Nicotine is the most deadly poison, 1 drop of pure nicotine liquid into open wound is fatal. He will need a good ventilation, (not to mention he will have to cook it lol) latex gloves, face mask etc etc etc
The tar (analogue cigarettes) builds up and prevents the smoker from being able to smell the smoke. It also inhibits taste, which is largely again connected with smell, often forcing the smoker to rely on spicer food for flavoring. Not to mention cyanide and other things inside analogue cigs.

The nicotine content in tobacco products varies widely. A manufactured cigarette contains approximately 10 milligrams of nicotine, while a typical cigar has 100 to 200 milligrams of nicotine. Some premium cigars have as much as 400 milligrams of nicotine in them. People who use smokeless tobacco (chew), absorb three to four times the amount of nicotine as do their smoking counterparts, on average.

E-cigs are still pretty new, they started in 2k6 ? There is no research how does it afect people long term. We will see in 20 years or sooner.

The main problem with analog cigarettes is the additives (4000+ chemicals !!), including Hydrogen Cyanide, Arsenic, Benzene, etc. Nicotine itself is similar to caffeine, it is not cancerogenic. Many medicines can kill you if not properly dosed as well.

There are studies on the nicotine level using ecigs, so we don't have to wait for 20 years. My only concern with them has nothing to do with the liquids, their content is well known, rather there may be some problems with the quality/standards of Chinese manufacture, i.e. led/tin solder, plastics and fillers degrading in VG/PG/Alcohol eliquids, things like that.