Rumors on Gas prices.

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:02 pm

It keeps popping up that it will be close to $4 tommorow morning because of Rita. Anyone else here this. If so I'm fillng up tonight.

Starmax · Post by **Starmax** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:25 pm

Lefty wrote:It keeps popping up that it will be close to $4 tommorow morning because of Rita. Anyone else here this. If so I'm fillng up tonight.

i've not heard but if thats the case im filling up too,,thx for the heads up..

mountainman · Post by **mountainman** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:31 pm

It's not because of Rita...it's because everyone starts freaking out and then the stations jack it up because they can. Rita is just a big mass of unstable air moving across the globe; oil execs are the ones who'll ultimately make it "pop up".

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:34 pm

[quote="mountainman"]It's not because of Rita...it's because everyone starts freaking out and then the stations jack it up because they can. Rita is just a big mass of unstable air moving across the globe]
I think you know what I meant. BTW I completely agree with you.

mountainman · Post by **mountainman** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:49 pm

Yes I did. Someone had to bring the oil barons in, right?

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:32 pm

[quote="mountainman"]Yes I did. Someone had to bring the oil barons in, right?

]
yes

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:39 pm

If everyone believes the rumor, then yes, it will go up because stations will sell out faster then normal.

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:53 pm

There is no low grade or mid grade available in our city right now, only high grade.
Drove by one station with cars lined up and a tanker truck just sitting there, they won't unload untill all the high priced high grade is gone also.
And I bet the minute they unload the "NEW" price will be at least 50 cents a liter more.
As a Canadian, I'm getting sick of this chit, we have been over priced and over taxed on fuel for many years now, we produce enuff oil and gas to be self sustaining, but those in the greed have chosen to sell to the States and we have to buy from Europe to make up for what goes stateside. That decision was probably made to keep the US from forcibly taking OUR oil.
Then some friggin hurricane hits LA and we pay through the nose because Americans are running out and to we have to pay what that fuel is worth stateside, TOTAL BS.
Now, another Hurricane is about to hit, and the Oil Company's are jacking us already and it hasn't even happened yet.
Now the main reason we are so dependant on fossil fuel is because the Americans WILL NOT GIVE UP THEIR GAS GUZZLERS. We in Canada are forced by the monopolies to purchase equivilant vehicals that the Americans want. They will not offer Canadians what we want, only what Americans want.
I want a small pickup with diesel, something available everywhere in the world except North America, WHY?
Because Americans have not wanted it.
MAIGS from taking it dry, but I can't afford the lube anymore

Illini25 · Post by **Illini25** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:57 pm

IMO, I blame the media for starting up a frenzy about the gas prices.

jdblitz · Post by **jdblitz** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:05 pm

Chris wrote:There is no low grade or mid grade available in our city right now, only high grade.
Drove by one station with cars lined up and a tanker truck just sitting there, they won't unload untill all the high priced high grade is gone also.
And I bet the minute they unload the "NEW" price will be at least 50 cents a liter more.
As a Canadian, I'm getting sick of this chit, we have been over priced and over taxed on fuel for many years now, we produce enuff oil and gas to be self sustaining, but those in the greed have chosen to sell to the States and we have to buy from Europe to make up for what goes stateside. That decision was probably made to keep the US from forcibly taking OUR oil.
Then some friggin hurricane hits LA and we pay through the nose because Americans are running out and to we have to pay what that fuel is worth stateside, TOTAL BS.
Now, another Hurricane is about to hit, and the Oil Company's are jacking us already and it hasn't even happened yet.
Now the main reason we are so dependant on fossil fuel is because the Americans WILL NOT GIVE UP THEIR GAS GUZZLERS. We in Canada are forced by the monopolies to purchase equivilant vehicals that the Americans want. They will not offer Canadians what we want, only what Americans want.
I want a small pickup with diesel, something available everywhere in the world except North America, WHY?
Because Americans have not wanted it.
MAIGS from taking it dry, but I can't afford the lube anymore

Yes, the US is behind all evil that is greed. We control everything in the world that relates to greed and we are the reason greed exists in the world.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:06 pm

I just finished filling up my Tempo at $1.04 / litre.
Already some gas stations in this province have gone over $2 / litre.

I predict that within 2-3 years, for the average worker, it will come down to deciding between having a vehicle or a roof over your head.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:07 pm

jdblitz wrote:Yes, the US is behind all evil that is greed. We control everything in the world that relates to greed and we are the reason greed exists in the world.

Finally admitting it, eh?

jdblitz · Post by **jdblitz** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:09 pm

Norm wrote:Finally admitting it, eh?

Yes, well there's not much avoiding since we all know there was no greed, savagery or war before the united states was formed.

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:09 pm

jdblitz wrote:Yes, the US is behind all evil that is greed. We control everything in the world that relates to greed and we are the reason greed exists in the world.

What I stated is just facts.
And theres enuff documentation out there.

PS
And if you noticed I said those in the greed have chosen to sell our gas to the States.
That means Greedy Canadians made that choice

jdblitz · Post by **jdblitz** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:16 pm

Chris wrote:What I stated is just facts.
And theres enuff documentation out there.

PS
And if you noticed I said those in the greed have chosen to sell our gas to the States.
That means Greedy Canadians made that choice

And I bet the minute they unload the "NEW" price will be at least 50 cents a liter more.

Fact or Expectation?

That decision was probably made to keep the US from forcibly taking OUR oil.

Again I must question where this fact was gathered? Perhaps you could post a link?

Now the main reason we are so dependant on fossil fuel is because the Americans WILL NOT GIVE UP THEIR GAS GUZZLERS.

Again I need a link to the source that states the price of gas across the continent is the way it is because our vehicles average 20mpg instead of 35?

Presumption and expectations do not a fact make.

Please, I understand that this is how you view the situation but I would barely call your opinions simple "Facts"

JD

Starmax · Post by **Starmax** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:23 pm

it went from $2.49 yesterday to $2.59 today but i talked to the guy that owns the station down the street,,we went to school togehter,he said he's not raising it more this time,he lost customers last time...

David · Post by **David** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:01 pm

Although I concur that the US market drives specific expectations in the Canadian scheme, there is no reason to believe that if economical cars and trucks were offered as imports to your country they would not sell. So the question would be, why has no one tried it?

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:04 pm

Lefty wrote:It keeps popping up that it will be close to $4 tommorow morning because of Rita. Anyone else here this. If so I'm fillng up tonight.

how much is ONE tank gonna really do for ya dude,

maybe if you have 1000 gal tank,but,,,,,not worth running down and waiting in line.

whan the day comes that they perfect the system to run cars off of human gas,(farts) then I will have plenty for everyone!

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:07 pm

Hell_Yes wrote:Although I concur that the US market drives specific expectations in the Canadian scheme, there is no reason to believe that if economical cars and trucks were offered as imports to your country they would not sell. So the question would be, why has no one tried it?

They are just starting to arrive David, the Smart Car for one, In our small city there are at least 5 of them already.
Imports were big up here, but they have been Americanized and are mostly gas guzzlers also.
Times they are a changin as America starts to pay also.
I for one want to see more alternatives.
My one love, my Ford Ranger, best fuel efficiency for a truck, which I need to carry tools, yet it is offered everywhere else in the world with an efficient 4 cyl diesel option and Americans have not fell in love with diesel yet, or it would be here, now thats just one ex, I'm sure there are more

David · Post by **David** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:20 pm

Chris wrote:They are just starting to arrive David, the Smart Car for one, In our small city there are at least 5 of them already.
Imports were big up here, but they have been Americanized and are mostly gas guzzlers also.
Times they are a changin as America starts to pay also.
I for one want to see more alternatives.
My one love, my Ford Ranger, best fuel efficiency for a truck, which I need to carry tools, yet it is offered everywhere else in the world with an efficient 4 cyl diesel option and Americans have not fell in love with diesel yet, or it would be here, now thats just one ex, I'm sure there are more

The US market has had many companies dipping their toes into the economy market. Mitsu had a couple of turbodiesel trucks and VW offered the Rabbit diesel powered P/U, but imported so few to the US. The big three offer diesel trucks, but only those with cartoonish power outputs and commensurate fuel efficiency. We do have a decent selection of gas powered four and six cylinder P/U here in the US, and they are quite popular. With the newer generation of cleaner (this is an important issue, believe it out not, in the US) burning diesels, I am certain they can make inroads in the light truck market.

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:36 pm

Oh it will happen David, but it should have happened long ago. My Ranger has the best fuel economy in a Pick up in North America, but it isn't good enuff.
Yet the Ranger was available in the 80's with a Diesel along with the Tempo, Americans wouldn't buy it, not as peppy as gas and smelly was the complaint, there were a few around here. So Ford killed it.
You have to admitt the car makers build what the US market wants, not Canada, So we are stuck with the same gas guzzlers that are south of the border.
I do think though, with the current trend in gas prices that American consumers will start to change their mind about cubic inches. Because I can't wait to trade in my small pickup for a small diesel pickup.

Whats really funny is I get 24-26MPG hiway with my small pickup, guy i do some work for gets 23-24 with his f350 4 door one ton dually diesel.

Shinobi · Post by **Shinobi** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:21 am

“Rita is set to knock off 26 percent off the U.S. refining capacity, which is going to push gasoline prices upwards of three and four dollars a gallon in the coming days,” says John Kilduff with the USA Energy Risk Management Group.

BrandonB · Post by **BrandonB** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:44 am

Shinobi wrote:

It's a buncha bull****. They just want more money, it's like a gold digger. They want more and more and more and more.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:48 am

Dan wrote:how much is ONE tank gonna really do for ya dude,

maybe if you have 1000 gal tank,but,,,,,not worth running down and waiting in line.

whan the day comes that they perfect the system to run cars off of human gas,(farts) then I will have plenty for everyone!

This is somewhat true..but still if you can fill a 30gal Tank and save almost 1$. in total that adds up.

David · Post by **David** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:23 am

Shinobi wrote:

It is quite possible if you read just how many of our refineries are in the area. I cannot fathom that the facilities will be destroyed, so they should be back online within a short time after the storm.

Starmax · Post by **Starmax** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:48 pm

Sava700 wrote:This is somewhat true..but still if you can fill a 30gal Tank and save almost 1$. in total that adds up.

I agree,the prices around here change every week,,if i fill up on a week when the gas is lower i guess its like saving a lil money by not having to hit the station when it's high...

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:01 pm

Mine went up an average of fifteen cents. Not as bad as I thought but I saved a little, by not waiting till Monday when they put the boots to us.

Paft · Post by **Paft** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:43 pm

Advantage to riding a motorcycle: To get ~120 miles out of it, I pay a good $4 at the pump. Full tank.

I advise car drivers to think about it.

DaddyLongLeg · Post by **DaddyLongLeg** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:49 pm

Lefty wrote:It keeps popping up that it will be close to $4 tommorow morning because of Rita. Anyone else here this. If so I'm fillng up tonight.

Haven't heard that but I figured it would, any excuse to hammer the consumer. Prices were dipping down hear in SoCal too. At least I got one tank filled when the price was in the $2.80 range

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:05 pm

Paft wrote:Advantage to riding a motorcycle: To get ~120 miles out of it, I pay a good $4 at the pump. Full tank.

I advise car drivers to think about it.

Not good in the rain, not good for carrying a ton of stuff, no comforts liek surround sound, no air bags for accidents, added costs of insurance. I dont see a bike as a good daily alternative. As a weekend toy to go out cruising, absolutely, just not a commuter.

Loonatic · Post by **Loonatic** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:08 pm

http://money.cnn.com/2005/09/23/markets ... tm?cnn=yes

Crude oil price falls as Rita changes course.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:08 pm

YARDofSTUF wrote:Not good in the rain, not good for carrying a ton of stuff, no comforts liek surround sound, no air bags for accidents, added costs of insurance. I dont see a bike as a good daily alternative. As a weekend toy to go out cruising, absolutely, just not a commuter.

Yep I agree...also not good for families...

BrandonB · Post by **BrandonB** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:25 pm

Loonatic wrote:http://money.cnn.com/2005/09/23/markets ... tm?cnn=yes

Crude oil price falls as Rita changes course.

Holy crap... I retract my last statement. Thats alot of friggin refineries(sp?).

aagiants · Post by **aagiants** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:47 pm

In Fairfiled, CT gas is 2.65 at one station.. wierd... but 2.85 elsewhere in ffld

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:37 am

Lefty wrote:It keeps popping up that it will be close to $4 tommorow morning because of Rita. Anyone else here this. If so I'm fillng up tonight.

I saw these prices today.

Starmax · Post by **Starmax** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:44 am

aagiants wrote:In Fairfiled, CT gas is 2.65 at one station.. wierd... but 2.85 elsewhere in ffld

yea i have 2 right down the street and they are driveway to driveway together and 1 is $2.49 and the other is $2.59,,wierd.........