Prostitution

Luke J · Post by **Luke J** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:43 pm

I wanna hear the feminist perspective on Prostitution

For example, Do you believe prostitution exists because of the gender inequality? Do you think this is a step forward for womens rights?

gimmie some responses women please, and if any man wants to add something go ahead

Meggie · Post by **Meggie** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:04 pm

i think its ok as long as its not kids. unfortunautly prostitution usually is accompanied with drug addiction, and the 2 combined usually are breeding grounds for pretty hardcore diseases.

but if you just mean prostitution as a honest occupation of sex for money. i say hey sure whatever works, i personally would never do it. but i wouldnt ever strip for money either.

as long as its safe, and regulated im all for it. i dont think it exists because of gender equality nor do i believe its a step in the right direction for womens rights. I think its one of those things that have always existed and always will exist regardless of whether or not we want to recognize it.

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:10 pm

Its not taking advantage of anyone, you dont HAVE to pay someone if you dont want to. Ya know? It should be legal, if someones got the dough to cough up like that, hey might as well be able to get a super hot chick eh? Not that my opinion is what you were asking for but yea haha.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:17 pm

Meggie wrote:i think its ok as long as its not kids. unfortunautly prostitution usually is accompanied with drug addiction, and the 2 combined usually are breeding grounds for pretty hardcore diseases.

but if you just mean prostitution as a honest occupation of sex for money. i say hey sure whatever works, i personally would never do it. but i wouldnt ever strip for money either.

as long as its safe, and regulated im all for it. i dont think it exists because of gender equality nor do i believe its a step in the right direction for womens rights. I think its one of those things that have always existed and always will exist regardless of whether or not we want to recognize it.

wow you said it good..how i feel...

i say legalize it and tax it...know how much money the govt can make and use to pay for other things and lower our taxes

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:27 pm

i'm persoanly against it in every shape and form..i still remeber when i was like 5 and up roamingthe streets wiht my mother and waiting somewere for her to come back..back then..i had to clue what was going on...now that im older i am fully aware...

so my stand is no...

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:32 pm

morbidpete wrote:i'm persoanly against it in every shape and form..i still remeber when i was like 5 and up roamingthe streets wiht my mother and waiting somewere for her to come back..back then..i had to clue what was going on...now that im older i am fully aware...

so my stand is no...

F***! I could see why. Sorry man.

I'm with meggie on this one though.

wee96 · Post by **wee96** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:36 pm

morbidpete wrote:i'm persoanly against it in every shape and form..i still remeber when i was like 5 and up roamingthe streets wiht my mother and waiting somewere for her to come back..back then..i had to clue what was going on...now that im older i am fully aware...

so my stand is no...

Sarahnn · Post by **Sarahnn** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:44 pm

Regulated prostitution at commercial locations. No pimps, free health care, paid vacations, and the women treated like employees with all the inherent rights.

If you go into prostitution alone, you report your income and pay taxes like the rest of us and are required to update your health certificate or be closed down like any other establishment.

Ho'in and Piimp'in is a sub culture that is dangerous to communities because of other criminal activities it draws.

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:07 pm

No, it's disgusting.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:12 pm

Prey521 wrote:No, it's disgusting.

For you it is...but who forcing you to go?

but you dont mind drooling over hot girls on the net...LOL!!

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:12 pm

Prey521 wrote:No, it's disgusting.

Your just a tightwad....lmao

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:29 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:For you it is...but who forcing you to go?

but you dont mind drooling over hot girls on the net...LOL!!

Droolin over girls and my opinion on prostitution are 2 totally different things. I know I am not being forced to "go" with a prostitute, the fact that the "job" is disgusting is my opinion, and it should in no way be made legal.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:31 pm

Prey521 wrote:Droolin over girls and my opinion on prostitution are 2 totally different things. I know I am not being forced to "go" with a prostitute, the fact that the "job" is disgusting is my opinion, and it should in no way be made legal.

according to the bible "droolin over girls" = lust...and they are all sins..and sins are equal

anyway...just because you think it is disgusting does not meant it should not be legal. Whatever happened to freedom? Freedom to choose? In reality who is it hurting? In fact it will probably save more lives then anything.

Truth is we all pay for sex in some form or another..LOL

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:52 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:according to the bible "droolin over girls" = lust...and they are all sins..and sins are equal

anyway...just because you think it is disgusting does not meant it should not be legal. Whatever happened to freedom? Freedom to choose? In reality who is it hurting? In fact it will probably save more lives then anything.

Truth is we all pay for sex in some form or another..LOL

GH, opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has them, it's my opinion and I have every right to feel like I do, who said that I am trying to force it on anyone? I don't believe that it should be legal, if it's made legal, then so be it, if a women/man is low enough to sleep with someone else for money, then that is on them. And WTF does this have to do with lookin at girls anyways?

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:55 pm

Prey521 wrote:GH, opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has them, it's my opinion and I have every right to feel like I do, who said that I am trying to force it on anyone? I don't believe that it should be legal, if it's made legal, then so be it, if a women/man is low enough to sleep with someone else for money, then that is on them. And WTF does this have to do with lookin at girls anyways?

I dont see any differences.. between looking at girls and a man and women having sex and paying for it..

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:56 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:I dont see any differences.. between looking at girls and a man and women having sex and paying for it..

You have GOT to be fockin kiddin me man! If you actually believe that, then I feel sorry for you..........

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:58 pm

Prey521 wrote:You have GOT to be fockin kiddin me man! If you actually believe that, then I feel sorry for you..........

It in the bible...it all sin. Trust me I know..my wife is a born again...and to her it dont matter if you lust at women or pay for sex it all sin in the eyes of the lord.

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:00 pm

Yes, a sin is a sin, but we're not talkin about what The Lord thinks, we're talkin about what our opinions are about prostitution, stop making this thread something that it is not.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:06 pm

Prey521 wrote:Yes, a sin is a sin, but we're not talkin about what The Lord thinks, we're talkin about what our opinions are about prostitution, stop making this thread something that it is not.

i love the hypocrisy....typical

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:08 pm

Ok guys....Let's let this one go by the wayside and give the other gender a chance at the original question?

Both points of view are already stated by both of you.

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:12 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:i love the hypocrisy....typical

LMMFAO, you're so predictable it's not even funny GH, your arguements never change, you need something new other than "lookin at girls on the web is a sin", you need a new line. The fact that you're comparing lookin @ women, to prostitution, warrants me ignoring any other posts of yours in this thread.

Read this GH:

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/001/19.65.html

Also, here's a great quote:

EternalDiatribe:

The problem with prostitution is not a moral one, but rather a societal one..it demonstrates that a society is willing to allow the worst form of non-war human degradation, the selling of one's body for money.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:13 pm

downhill asked us to cease so I will.

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:14 pm

downhill wrote:Ok guys....Let's let this one go by the wayside and give the other gender a chance at the original question?

Both points of view are already stated by both of you.

Not that many ladies on the board tonight!

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:15 pm

Prey521 wrote:GH, opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has them, it's my opinion and I have every right to feel like I do, who said that I am trying to force it on anyone? I don't believe that it should be legal, if it's made legal, then so be it, if a women/man is low enough to sleep with someone else for money, then that is on them.

Glad your not a politician here in Nevada

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:16 pm

Sid wrote:Glad your not a politician here in Nevada

LOL...most politicians wont support it..but end up doing it behind secret doors anyway...

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:17 pm

Sid wrote:Glad your not a politician here in Nevada

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:18 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:LOL...most politicians wont support it..but end up doing it behind secret doors anyway...

Its legal in most counties here

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:20 pm

Sid wrote:Its legal in most counties here

I actually laugh how NY/NJ waste so much taxpayer money trying to close down escort services and brothels...when there are real serious crimes that could be better use...meanwhile the politicians here are all against it...but so many politicians use the services anyway...LOL

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:20 pm

Well I started cleaning some of it up but hey...........I'd rather just ask the parties involved to keep it civil...If you can't, then find other threads to post in.

Thanks..

Sarahnn · Post by **Sarahnn** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:22 pm

Prey, I totally respect your opinion so please don't take these questions as a challenge.

Isn't pornography a form of prostituting ones body for voyeurism to make a profit?

If a woman has pictures taken of herself in compromising positions without the penetration of another person and she is highly paid, is this not another form of prostituting her body for profit? Or is the fact that one can only watch her pose less disgusting than engaging in the act for the same purpose of sexual arousal?

I only advocate the legalization of prostitution to keep women safe, because it is the worlds oldest profession.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:24 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:I actually laugh how NY/NJ waste so much taxpayer money trying to close down escort services and brothels...when there are real serious crimes that could be better use...meanwhile the politicians here are all against it...but so many politicians use the services anyway...LOL

Well for us here in Nevada its like a tourist attraction but yes, I have to agree with you. It's like trying to stop the U.S. from getting and smoking pot, it just isn't going to happen. Legalize it and make them pay taxes!

ScottE · Post by **ScottE** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:26 pm

I'll never pay for sex, but hey whatever. If some woman wants to sell herself for some $ fine that's her business.

Meggie · Post by **Meggie** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:28 pm

Sarahnn wrote:Regulated prostitution at commercial locations. No pimps, free health care, paid vacations, and the women treated like employees with all the inherent rights.

If you go into prostitution alone, you report your income and pay taxes like the rest of us and are required to update your health certificate or be closed down like any other establishment.

Ho'in and Piimp'in is a sub culture that is dangerous to communities because of other criminal activities it draws.

i dont even get free health care....

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:30 pm

downhill wrote:Well I started cleaning some of it up but hey...........I'd rather just ask the parties involved to keep it civil...If you can't, then find other threads to post in.

Thanks..

NP...my apologies...if I got out of line...

Hey Prey...no hard feelings ok?

Sarahnn · Post by **Sarahnn** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:37 pm

Meggie wrote:i dont even get free health care....

Not 100% free to the user, but low-cost health-plans provided through company profits.

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:39 pm

Ghosthunter wrote:NP...my apologies...if I got out of line...

Hey Prey...no hard feelings ok?

No way man, just debating, no worries!

Sarahnn, they're one and the same, a ho on camera is the same as a ho on the street.

Meggie · Post by **Meggie** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:40 pm

Sarahnn wrote:Not 100% free to the user, but low-cost health-plans provided through company profits.

yea i dont get that either.

hows that for a kick in the pants.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:43 pm

[quote="Prey521"]No way man, just debating, no worries! ]

Really? Did you just insert your foot into your mouth?

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:47 pm

downhill wrote:Really? Did you just insert your foot into your mouth?

I don't get it totally, but i take it that you're implying that I have watched porn. Which I have, but have I PAID for porn? No

nepenthe · Post by **nepenthe** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:50 pm

Sarahnn wrote:Prey, I totally respect your opinion so please don't take these questions as a challenge.

Isn't pornography a form of prostituting ones body for voyeurism to make a profit?

If a woman has pictures taken of herself in compromising positions without the penetration of another person and she is highly paid, is this not another form of prostituting her body for profit? Or is the fact that one can only watch her pose less disgusting than engaging in the act for the same purpose of sexual arousal?

I only advocate the legalization of prostitution to keep women safe, because it is the worlds oldest profession.

Murder for hire is also an old profession as is politics.

You are quite correct in that pornography is a form of prostitution. More accurately, it nebulous step on the slippery slope of full self-degradation. Although, based on what is readily viewable on porn sites, I would believe that direct prostitution is less reprehensible.
This is a tough topic to argue. Self determination implies that it should be as legal as suicide, it should be permissible inspite of morality. However, it is the illegal alien trafficking, drugs (both of which are vicious traps that snare its victims) and STD issues that have me strongly leaning towards keeping it unlawful.

david
> my apologies for the sloppy writing<