American who got his head cut off...

Mutch · Post by **Mutch** » Tue May 11, 2004 8:29 pm

Has been released on the internet :/ shame.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Tue May 11, 2004 8:31 pm

Even more of a shame, people search for it, and watch it.

jdmcrx · Post by **jdmcrx** » Tue May 11, 2004 8:43 pm

screw this political correct bulls ****e go in and kill them all. americas to busy trying to make everyone like them. they deserve to die if they believe in killing infidels gets you into there utopia. nuke and get it over with. they didnt care when ever all of the innocent people died in the world trade center, why should we care about all of there people. we are in there trying to help them and they are killing our soldiers.
sorry to all i offend but that is my 2 cents, now that i am done venting i think i will play some DC to relieve my anger.\
matt

vinnie · Post by **vinnie** » Tue May 11, 2004 8:49 pm

As I said in the other thread about mistreating Iraqi prisoners:

Which raises the issue- would be better off not knowing it happened? It's always happened in every major war, the Iraqi's certainly did it, do we need to make such a fuss that we did it too? Well, the coalition, thankfully no one has finger pointed at Australians yet. By all means, punish those directly responsible, but need it be public?

This whole beheading thing is one very good reason why it shouldn't have been made such a public of.

TrUtHsMaCkEr · Post by **TrUtHsMaCkEr** » Tue May 11, 2004 8:50 pm

i thought the french revolution was over?

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Tue May 11, 2004 8:50 pm

I watched it to fuel my rage!

lance-tek · Post by **lance-tek** » Tue May 11, 2004 8:57 pm

I have not saw it, nor do I know where to find it. But why would anyone do it? That I have no clue about. I would like to learn why these people think the way they do.

It would be a miracle to make them realize we are not what they think we are ...

-lance

jdmcrx · Post by **jdmcrx** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:01 pm

lance-tek wrote: I would like to learn why these people think the way they do.

-lance

they have an enlarged endulaobligodum, from all of the inbreeding. vinne you do make a great point. if the reporters were not over there then this wouldnt get to be this bad.
matt

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:03 pm

I hate to say it, but I think that any civilian foreigner, no matter what there business is, must be a complete moron to be over there or even think about going.

The_Lurker · Post by **The_Lurker** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:08 pm

Prey521 wrote:I hate to say it, but I think that any civilian foreigner, no matter what there business is, must be a complete moron to be over there or even think about going.

i was one signature away from going and doing almost the same thing he was.

i prayed and sought advice, and decided not to go just because of a fear of something like this, well not this.....but the fact of i would have been an unarmed civilian in a sh*t hole backwards country where they have been inbreed to hate civility and Americans.

this makes it easier to hate their whole culture.

their allah is satan.

jdmcrx · Post by **jdmcrx** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:11 pm

their allah is satan.

my point exactly man

Jamie_R · Post by **Jamie_R** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:19 pm

just saw the video

couldn't help it ... guess i wanted to see for myself ...

we need to end Al Qaeda NOW ... and if it springs up a thousand more extremists we need to kill those f**kers too ...

sorry, but i'm not going to be p.c. about this at all - they sure aren't

we need to keep this man's family in our prayers ...

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:20 pm

Fundementalism in any guise is satan......

The fact that most of Islam is peaceful, seems to escape most of you. the Lurker, your not aware of Christian groups that would not do the same thing?

Look I'm not advocating what happend could possibly be ok...just for the record but lets look at this.

First off, this isn't Iraq..it's probably Al Qaeda..or one of it's minions. They are a terrorist organization, not a country held to higher "war" standards..

I would guess that the reality is, we can expect more of this.

The_Lurker · Post by **The_Lurker** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:23 pm

downhill wrote:Fundementalism in any guise is satan......

The fact that most of Islam is peaceful, seems to escape most of you. the Lurker, your not aware of Christian groups that would not do the same thing?

Look I'm not advocating what happend could possibly be ok...just for the record but lets look at this.

First off, this isn't Iraq..it's probably Al Qaeda..or one of it's minions. They are a terrorist organization, not a country held to higher "war" standards..

I would guess that the reality is, we can expect more of this.

easy killer before comming down on me. just as i posted "their" allah, not just allah.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:24 pm

Cool..I wasn't trying to single you out of the crowd.....so...are you?

Jstyr · Post by **Jstyr** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:25 pm

lance-tek wrote:I have not saw it, nor do I know where to find it. But why would anyone do it? That I have no clue about. I would like to learn why these people think the way they do.

It would be a miracle to make them realize we are not what they think we are ...

-lance

The fact is these people DON"T think. They are animals. If the media had an ounce of morality they'd STFU over this teasing of Iraqi prisoners BS and focus everything they have into the case of this man beheaded.

Have any muslim leaders come out and condemned this action? Wake up people it isn't going to happen. Animals. To me this is the straw that breaks the camels back. I've been pretty liberal in the past but it's over.

Everytime they kill one of ours we should level one of their cities...I'm dead serious. We did it in Japan to break thier backs and it needs done in the middle east now. We need to turn them into cowering mounds of fear. Strip away any idea of resistance, and let them re-mold themselves into human beings after the dust settles.

The_Lurker · Post by **The_Lurker** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:26 pm

downhill wrote:Cool..I wasn't trying to single you out of the crowd.....so...are you?

of course.

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:26 pm

Damn Jstyr, I love your way of thinking!!

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:27 pm

Prey521 wrote:I hate to say it, but I think that any civilian foreigner, no matter what there business is, must be a complete moron to be over there or even think about going.

I agree 100%! Especially if hes of Jewish descent. Thats not too bright.
I am of Arab descent, but being Catholic AND American you wouldnt catch my azz over there. I dont care for how much money!
Greed... Mixed with Stupidity
That guys poor family.

Pie

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:27 pm

i tried to watch the video, but i had to turn it off when they started cutting his neck, the screams were just to much for me to handle.

it all most made me cry thinking what his parents must have went through seeing it

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:29 pm

Mark wrote:i tried to watch the video, but i had to turn it off when they started cutting his neck, the screams were just to much for me to handle.

it all most made me cry thinking what his parents must have went through seeing it

I don't think that was him. That was people in the background screaming. Perhaps other hostages?
The Video I saw was very very blurry so it was hard to tell.

Pie

The_Lurker · Post by **The_Lurker** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:30 pm

Jstyr wrote: Have any muslim leaders come out and condemned this action? Wake up people it isn't going to happen. Animals. To me this is the straw that breaks the camels back. I've been pretty liberal in the past but it's over.

Everytime they kill one of ours we should level one of their cities...I'm dead serious. We did it in Japan to break thier backs and it needs done in the middle east now. We need to turn them into cowering mounds of fear. Strip away any idea of resistance, and let them re-mold themselves into human beings after the dust settles.

hmm, interesting point. after WWII we had pretty much destroyed the countries of and as you said "broken the backs" of both Germany and Japan. then allowed them to rebuild at our behest.

hmmm.

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:33 pm

Mark wrote:i tried to watch the video, but i had to turn it off when they started cutting his neck, the screams were just to much for me to handle.

it all most made me cry thinking what his parents must have went through seeing it

You think that the family actually saw the video? I highly doubt it!

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:33 pm

Jstyr wrote:The fact is these people DON"T think. They are animals. If the media had an ounce of morality they'd STFU over this teasing of Iraqi prisoners BS and focus everything they have into the case of this man beheaded.

Have any muslim leaders come out and condemned this action? Wake up people it isn't going to happen. Animals. To me this is the straw that breaks the camels back. I've been pretty liberal in the past but it's over.

Everytime they kill one of ours we should level one of their cities...I'm dead serious. We did it in Japan to break thier backs and it needs done in the middle east now. We need to turn them into cowering mounds of fear. Strip away any idea of resistance, and let them re-mold themselves into human beings after the dust settles.

As brutal as Japan may have been in the past, they eventually relented and became a great nation, ally & economic power. They were humbled for the good and came out strong. The people that we are dealing with now and until the end of time are not of the same mind and are true evil because of religion.

jdmcrx · Post by **jdmcrx** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:37 pm

like i have said in many other threads, pull all of the troops out of their and dust of the b 52 and nuke them till it turns into a giant green glowing peice of glas that can be seen from space. i want the people in the space station to look down and say wtf is that!
matt

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:38 pm

jdmcrx wrote:like i have said in many other threads, pull all of the troops out of their and dust of the b 52 and nuke them till it turns into a giant green glowing peice of glas that can be seen from space. i want the people in the space station to look down and say wtf is that!
matt

jdmcrx · Post by **jdmcrx** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:40 pm

Prey521 wrote:

it would probally be better off for the place you could start over once the radiation went back down to normal in 50 years.

sito · Post by **sito** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:40 pm

After seeing that Russian soldier get slaughtered a while back, I'll pass on watching this thanks.

People seem to forget Nukes have fallout for a lot longer that many lifetimes.

Spicy tomatoes?

Jstyr · Post by **Jstyr** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:41 pm

The_Lurker wrote:hmm, interesting point. after WWII we had pretty much destroyed the countries of and as you said "broken the backs" of both Germany and Japan. then allowed them to rebuild at our behest.

hmmm.

Exactly, look these people obviously aren't broken. They believe it is ok to kill unarmed civilians in retaliation to perceived wrongs. They are utterly brainwashed. I really hope that Bush will not worry about his political career, or what happened to some teased Iraqi prisoners. I hope he goes in there and sends a STRONG message that when you target our civilians you get payed back 100 fold. Make the Iraqi people scream "enough already" and they will root these bastards out themselves.

I'm going to have a VERY hard time dealing with any muslims from now on. They don't deserve respect for the simple fact that have let their religion be usurped by these base defilers.

sito · Post by **sito** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:46 pm

The guy at the corner store is muslim, I'll still go get my smokes there, cause I can see people as individuals.

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:52 pm

sitosterol wrote:The guy at the corner store is muslim, I'll still go get my smokes there, cause I can see people as individuals.

My parents live by a corner store run and owned by an IRAQI and he is the nicest guy you could imagine. He justs wants to make a living and said he loves the USA for giving him the opportunity to be a successful business owner. He told my Mom that he has siblings in IRAQ and they hate it in every way, but aren't as fortunate as him. I harbor no ill feelings for him whatsoever.

Yes, I see people as individuals also. Unfortunately, we are seeing what a collective of evil individuals can become.

jdmcrx · Post by **jdmcrx** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:52 pm

it just pisses me off to think that we freed this damn country and they decide that we are the ones that are wrong. We are the ones that gave them a second chance. they should be thanking us and show a least a little fecking grattitude. before us they were being murdered by there own leader and now that we have him they should not be afraid to say FU sadam. but they are so scared that if they do show so praise and sadam comes back the will be finished. my cousin is over in iraq right now and the unit that he is with is awol, they havent heard from them for 3 days, and he is near were all this crap is going on.
matt

Jstyr · Post by **Jstyr** » Tue May 11, 2004 10:00 pm

sitosterol wrote:The guy at the corner store is muslim, I'll still go get my smokes there, cause I can see people as individuals.

Is that soem kind of jab at me? Maybe if this had happened to your countryman you wouldn't be so quick shrug it off.

And I didn't say I was going to hate all muslims, just that it was going to be very hard to deal with them after seeing the environment from which this religion comes.

sito · Post by **sito** » Tue May 11, 2004 10:02 pm

jdmcrx wrote:it just pisses me off to think that we freed this damn country and they decide that we are the ones that are wrong. We are the ones that gave them a second chance. they should be thanking us and show a least a little fecking grattitude. before us they were being murdered by there own leader and now that we have him they should not be afraid to say FU sadam. but they are so scared that if they do show so praise and sadam comes back the will be finished. my cousin is over in iraq right now and the unit that he is with is awol, they havent heard from them for 3 days, and he is near were all this crap is going on.
matt

I agree they should be thankful, but unfortunately people don't see it that way there, they were raised to hate Americans and most likely with continue to be hateful.

If your told all your life about this enemy that hates you and they bomb the **** outta you and invade I'm willing to bet you'd be afraid. You can't expect them to say oh great thanks! They fear you, many hate you and that makes for chaos.

I'm sure they're saying the exact same thing about Americans as you are about them. Many lost loved ones when the bombs came.

I remember an Iraqi lady on the news crying because Saddam was captured in such an undignified way. Understand that and you'll understand them. I don't pretend to.

Nobody deserves to have their head hacked off, not even Saddam. It does prove to me that humans are in fact animals.

sito · Post by **sito** » Tue May 11, 2004 10:04 pm

Jstyr wrote:Is that soem kind of jab at me? Maybe if this had happened to your countryman you wouldn't be so quick shrug it off.

And I didn't say I was going to hate all muslims, just that it was going to be very hard to deal with them after seeing the environment from which this religion comes.

No, just stating my opinion as you are. It hurts me to see ANY man/women/ child treated that way.

Did I quote you ?

It's not about country to me, it's about humans.

jdmcrx · Post by **jdmcrx** » Tue May 11, 2004 10:05 pm

if we really think of it humans are the lowest form of life on this planet. allmost all other species can live together in peace.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Tue May 11, 2004 10:09 pm

Who would actually watch a movie like this one?

Why?

jdmcrx · Post by **jdmcrx** » Tue May 11, 2004 10:13 pm

"So we tell you that the dignity of the Muslim men and women in Abu Ghraib and others is not redeemed except by blood and souls. You will not receive anything from us but coffins after coffins ... slaughtered in this way."

feck em kill them all
matt

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Tue May 11, 2004 10:13 pm

Arrrrggggg........Someone show me proof that the terrorists that even did this are Iraqi!!!

Again, most Muslims are peaceful.....but just like Christians, will rise to defend their way of life...

Even if they were, they now belong to a greater cause in their own minds.....and that is a fundamentalist nation with the idea of setting the whole world back to a 14th century theocracy....

Again, we should have beheaded the monster before we took on another war!! bin Laden is still alive, as is his organization and it looks to me that it's probably not getting any weaker.

The war isn't against a religion but a cancer!!

For those of draft age, get ready..

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Tue May 11, 2004 10:16 pm

Anyone who is ignorant enough to defend the actions of these savages is truly messed up somewhere. Fox news said that the actual beheading took about 30 seconds and several "hacks" to sever the head and the man is screaming in agony until he can no longer utter.

Men, it's time to take a stand. We started this and we need to end it. We are not merely dealing with a handful of bad guys, we are dealing with the most real enemy we have ever seen. No regard for life. It's closing in on us and we better act real soon or we will be backed into a corner and won't have the advantage.

They have directly threatened our President and all Americans including the bleeding heart Libs that believe everything will be O.K. if we just all sit around a camp-fire talking it out and singing Cum By Yah.

I'm mad as heck and am ready to request a waiver to come out of retirement and return to active duty in the Corps. It scares my wife and is foolish, but I haven't been this angry since I can't remember.