lag even with low ping

stainless steel · Post by **stainless steel** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:53 am

Is it possible to lag eventhough I have a low ping? I had a cable tech check out my connection and he said it was "sick fast". Now I know it can't be my modem so what else could it be? I have an SB4200 motorola, maybe its time for a new one? I don't think its my hardware either.

Dell 4500
p4 2.0 ghz
512mb
37gb hd
radeon 9600 pro 128mb
cable modem

master7 · Post by **master7** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:07 pm

what game are you trying to play?

stainless steel · Post by **stainless steel** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:09 pm

SoF2, I have the same problem with other games as well but its pretty bad in this game.

master7 · Post by **master7** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:16 pm

Try these console commands in SoF:

"seta snaps" - This setting is used to work out how many "updates" of the online "gamestate" you receive from the server every second.

"seta cg_smoothclients 1" - When other clients (players) have packetloss (they sometimes lose data coming from/going to the server) this setting helps smooth out movement when set to 1.

"seta rate 10000" - how many bytes/second is sent. Set this to 10000

"seta cl_packetdup x" - This setting ranges from 1-5, with 1 as default. It determines how many duplicate commands are sent to the server, so if you're suffering heavily from packetloss, this could help is if one command is lost, the backup(s) will still arrive.

"seta cl_maxpackets xx" - This setting controls how many packets of data are sent to the server from your client. The default is 30, and the range is 15-100. For best results, try setting this at roughly the same number as your average fps.

Other games should have console commands like these - but not exactly - search google

stainless steel · Post by **stainless steel** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:50 pm

Its interesting that the cl_maxpackets won't let me go above 60. Everytime I typed cl_maxpackets 100, it kept going back to 60. Any reason why?

Brandon_k_W · Post by **Brandon_k_W** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 7:04 pm

Originally posted by stainless steel
Its interesting that the cl_maxpackets won't let me go above 60. Everytime I typed cl_maxpackets 100, it kept going back to 60. Any reason why?

I believe that PunkBuster blocks out higher maxpackets. On Quake 3, it considered high maxpackets to be "cheating". God I hate PunkBuster.

stainless steel · Post by **stainless steel** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 10:39 pm

The thing is, I lag when I have a 20-50 ping which I don't think should be happening or at least a tiny bit of lag. Is there anything else I could look for in reducing the lag on my computer?

Brandon_k_W · Post by **Brandon_k_W** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 10:43 pm

Originally posted by stainless steel
The thing is, I lag when I have a 20-50 ping which I don't think should be happening or at least a tiny bit of lag. Is there anything else I could look for in reducing the lag on my computer?

I am thinking that it more of an application/tweak, making your game/s lag, and not your internet connection. Quake 3 Arena lags for me, ever since I started tweaking it, the game gets laggy when it's generates more textures on the screen.

realcableguy · Post by **realcableguy** » Sat Nov 15, 2003 3:07 am

Try uninstalling DirectX 9...I have found that it causes problems with online gamers

zxc47 · Post by **zxc47** » Sat Nov 15, 2003 7:41 am

Low ping with lag tell me that something is going on in your computer.My best guess would be a spy ware program running in the background.If it's not that I would look at your firewall program and see if it has a filter running or even a virus program running.Try this go to http://www.pcpitstop.com and run the full computer test . That will tell you what program are running and if any are spy ware program.

stainless steel · Post by **stainless steel** » Sat Nov 15, 2003 9:21 am

I did the test and my browser is messed up and this is what they said about my memory...The System Management BIOS is reporting that there is 512 MB of RAM, but Windows reports that 511 MB is available. The most common reason for this discrepancy is that your system uses some system RAM for the video graphics card or BIOS functions. This case is common in highly-integrated PCs with video graphics built into the system board, and does not require any changes on your part.

Can this be a problem and is there a way that I can fix this?

zxc47 · Post by **zxc47** » Sat Nov 15, 2003 10:42 am

stainless steel There may be some setting in your bio's that you can change. copy and paste a link to your test.Your video graphics memory may be shadowed or you have to much set for you AGP slot.This are thing to look at ,but what kind of mess is the browser in?

stainless steel · Post by **stainless steel** » Sat Nov 15, 2003 11:26 am

Memory ConfigurationDescription Results

RAM installed 512 MB
Windows RAM 511 MB
Total RAM slots 2
Available RAM slots 1
Max RAM module size 1024 MB
Memory Type 0+512;DIMM,?18,|Synchronous;T16
Level 1 Cache 8 KB
Level 2 Cache 512 KB
Speed Rating 4176 MB/s (120% of 1109 similar)

My computer did say something about the graphics memory being shadowed. Do I fix that in my BIOS?

zxc47 · Post by **zxc47** » Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:08 am

Along time ago when computer only had very little ram like 4mb or 8mb even 16mb you could set the bio's to shadow ram to make the system run faster.But with todays fast computer, It does little to help speed .You can set it not to shadow and see if it help you in your game's.But with your system I would think you will not see any change.I think you should be looking at how much ram is set a side for your video graphics card .If you have a 32 mb graphics card .Then you should set the bio's to 32mb .But I think you have something running in the back ground .

stainless steel · Post by **stainless steel** » Sun Nov 16, 2003 12:33 pm

I have tried tweaking the settings but I cant seem to find what is running in the background that is making my game lag. I have windows xp and I'm not sure what I need to run the system.

zxc47 · Post by **zxc47** » Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:48 pm

Do you have the winXP firewall disable?what virus program do you have ?Have you scan your system for spy ware?

stainless steel · Post by **stainless steel** » Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:50 pm

I dont have my firewall up, but even when I do, there is still the same amount of lag. I have norton anit-virus which I disable during the game. Also, 2 days ago I reinstalled my windows because of something so I don't think I would have any viruses just yet.

zxc47 · Post by **zxc47** » Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:17 pm

Your not useing usb modem are you?

stainless steel · Post by **stainless steel** » Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:30 pm

Whats a usb modem? I have an SB4200 motorola modem.

zxc47 · Post by **zxc47** » Sun Nov 16, 2003 7:32 pm

do you have a usb cable from the modem to your computer

stainless steel · Post by **stainless steel** » Sun Nov 16, 2003 7:33 pm

Yes I do, is that bad?

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:23 am

you want ethernet usb is nothing but promblems on a connection.

stainless steel · Post by **stainless steel** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:15 am

I thought the ethernet was for dial-up. Is this an ethernet card you are talkng about or something different for cable?

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:41 am

Ethernet could be a card and a cable to use the ethernet cable you need a nic or a network card. Using usp is the slowest medium out there ether net is faster and more suited to network modem and computer.

stainless steel · Post by **stainless steel** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:50 am

I have a CNet Pro200WL PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter. Is that the kind of network card you are referring to?

Someone also told me to do this, so tell me if it sounds like it might help: You may wish to speak to your ISP for help - some CABLE companies need you to REGISTER your network cards MAC - a unique number that identifies it. Give them a quick call... or check your account online - a lot will let you register them online (and explain how to find it.

mccoffee · Post by **mccoffee** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:19 pm

yep same card to find out mac address is if the card is installed goto startmenu run type cmd ipconfig/all it should be under protocol address.

stainless steel · Post by **stainless steel** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:35 pm

Maybe it can help you determine what the problem is?

http://www.dslreports.com/quality/nil/1217366

zxc47 · Post by **zxc47** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:43 pm

stainless steel. Put the Pro200WL PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter in and run a cross over cable from the modem to your computer . then unplug the modem for about a min. then plug it back in ,I think that will take care of the lag.

stainless steel · Post by **stainless steel** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:38 pm

Ok, but whats a cross over cable?

zxc47 · Post by **zxc47** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 4:30 pm

just go to the computer store and tell them you need a crossover cable to go from the modem to your computer .they should fix you up with what you need.. There are two ways cable end's are put on. A crossover cable is were both end of the caple plug are wire the same like pin 1 to pin 1 pin 2 to pin 2 and so on. the other type is call a patch cable

stainless steel · Post by **stainless steel** » Thu Nov 20, 2003 4:23 pm

Ok, its not packets loss because I called up my company they did a test and its not the reason. I also found out something else that was interesting. When I set my rate to a 56k setting, the lag was the same as when I set it to a cable setting or any other higher setting. I might as well be paying for dial up instead of cable, is that what this means? My shots are getting too much lag to be on a cable hook up. I even got a cable cross over today and its still the same so it has to be the game itself.