Crazy man tweak

Melvin · Post by **Melvin** » Fri May 03, 2002 6:32 pm

I`ve been following a lot of the threads about ramdisk. I must say that it works for me so far. But I also see a possible problem..people are saying that startup times are increasing due to the fact that w2k need to execute startup scripts. So far as I can see the only thing that w2k does is execute a X.cmd file.
So why not execute the file from the "Start" menu????

fAt_sUnNy · Post by **fAt_sUnNy** » Fri May 03, 2002 8:03 pm

Serious Problem guys,

You guys know the picture he posted in his guide right? Well it doesn't work for me. There are the some number of steps that guide you through the tweak and then at some aprts there are some pics which I can't view. Meaning it doesn't show up (the pics). I think I need the pics to do this right, I mean I don't wanna mess up anywhere. Sou can you guys PLEASE HELP!!!

Melvin · Post by **Melvin** » Tue May 07, 2002 6:49 pm

Why stop @ putting 2 tcp/ip files on the ramdisk for improved performance??
I decided to put the IPNAT.SYS on my ramdisk and hey presto I was surfing a lot quicker. This is pretty logical when you think about it because what happens is that when you type a address in it has to be translated to a number so that tcp/ip can find the address. This is what IPNAT does so having this converter if you will in memory makes the whole process quicker.

Don`t forget to tweak the register as well to read
\??\Z:\ipnat.sys

Have fun surfing...
Melvin

Gamewiz · Post by **Gamewiz** » Fri May 10, 2002 6:50 pm

WAaaaaaay Coooooool! Mods make this a sticky!!!!!

please valuble info!

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Fri May 10, 2002 9:33 pm

there should be a guide for this. like a thread with one post as a guide then lock it. ne whos i just found this thread today and read up to the 9th page. really dont want to read all 27. so if its possibal. can this be done on xp pro cause it runs on the 2000 kernal or something like that i guess. and if so. could ya post how? really need to get my pings dow. i have cable. if ya dont feel like giving the steps could ya tell me what not to do in the steps for the regular 2000 steps. maybe? thanks a bunch in advanced

Gamewiz · Post by **Gamewiz** » Fri May 10, 2002 9:46 pm

If someone makes a guide, be sure to do it for both OS's, ME,95/98, XP/NT/2000

Mike_W · Post by **Mike_W** » Sat May 11, 2002 2:18 am

Originally posted by Melvin
Why stop @ putting 2 tcp/ip files on the ramdisk for improved performance??
I decided to put the IPNAT.SYS on my ramdisk and hey presto I was surfing a lot quicker. This is pretty logical when you think about it because what happens is that when you type a address in it has to be translated to a number so that tcp/ip can find the address. This is what IPNAT does so having this converter if you will in memory makes the whole process quicker.

Don`t forget to tweak the register as well to read
\??\Z:\ipnat.sys

Have fun surfing...
Melvin

I dont have this file in Win98se. Is this only in 2000 or XP?

master7 · Post by **master7** » Sat May 11, 2002 8:53 am

Originally posted by Mike_W

I dont have this file in Win98se. Is this only in 2000 or XP?

http://dslnuts.com/ramdrive.shtml

Mike_W · Post by **Mike_W** » Sat May 11, 2002 3:28 pm

I have had the ramdrive for months now with my TCP/IP files on it. I am talking about the IPNAT.SYS file. I cannot find it in Win98 anywhere.

Melvin · Post by **Melvin** » Sat May 11, 2002 5:12 pm

Sorry guys and dolls but the tweak I posted was for w2k. If it works for XP all the well and good but I have not tried it.

morbidpete · Post by **morbidpete** » Sat May 11, 2002 5:33 pm

well were do ya find a ram drive for xp?

Zydeco · Post by **Zydeco** » Sat May 11, 2002 8:58 pm

Like Asenna i have a problem running crazy man tweak with 2 nics in ICS. I get BSOD when it trys too run net start tcpip. Did you find any help for this problem? If you have i would be realy thankfull if you could send me a e-mail with the fix och posting it here in this thread. Cheers

GodSmoke · Post by **GodSmoke** » Thu May 23, 2002 10:11 pm

I'm having problems using it on XP Pro as well. I get an error message durring start-up. And I can never access the ramdisk. I get the same error message as the one during start-up. Again, never able to access the RAM Disk.

dannjr · Post by **dannjr** » Sat May 25, 2002 3:04 am

Ya baby worked for me to

All the Information to this thread can be found here !

Windows 2000 http://dslnuts.com/ramdisk.shtml
As written and supported by Cablenut, Philip and others.

Windows 98 and 98SE here.
http://dslnuts.com/ramdrive.shtml

Both are up to date and this thread and Ramdrives are set just for the OS´s listed. WinXP will be supported in the future.

Thanks for the support
Dannjr
Cablenut team

Melvin · Post by **Melvin** » Sat May 25, 2002 4:33 pm

I`m sorry Dannjr but I certainly do not think that the information is by any means complete @ http://dslnuts.com/ramdrive.shtml
It`s OK as far as it goes and it`s a very good begining for all of us. However once the tweak is in place and running I feel sure that it will inspire a lot of thought develpment in a lot of people possibly resulting in a far improved tweak. Is`nt that what it`s all about on this forum???
Keep up the good work and above all................... enjoy.

"Complaceny has killed development"

dannjr · Post by **dannjr** » Sun May 26, 2002 4:49 am

Originally posted by Melvin
I`m sorry Dannjr but I certainly do not think that the information is by any means complete @ http://dslnuts.com/ramdrive.shtml
It`s OK as far as it goes and it`s a very good begining for all of us. However once the tweak is in place and running I feel sure that it will inspire a lot of thought develpment in a lot of people possibly resulting in a far improved tweak. Is`nt that what it`s all about on this forum???
Keep up the good work and above all................... enjoy.

"Complaceny has killed development"

Actually the information put there is as complete as it needs to be.
The rest is up to your imagination.. The object of the tweak is to reduce memory use as a whole along with some latency, It did that.
By all means if you want to addon to the ramdisk you have the basis of the setup now. That gives you the chance to even put temp files in there, or a program go for it. just be careful with that, temp files can fragment causing the ramdisk to fill up causing the drivers to off load if the drive isnt big enough. Of course then your back to using more memory again.

What its all about is to develope it better..
Negitives can cause complacency...

But I did notice other people asking again where the complete info for it was. I makes it easier when they have 28 pages in a forum broken down into a simple page or two.

when i get some time I will be updating that.. But like anything there still isnt 48hours in a day

Thanks for the reminder

Mohan-san · Post by **Mohan-san** » Sun May 26, 2002 10:39 am

Does anyone know when the XP ramdisk tweak will be available?

Or the instructions for them..?

Matrox23 · Post by **Matrox23** » Sun May 26, 2002 11:14 pm

While reading through the tremendous amounts of posts; I found your Idea both simple and effective. For a long time I was using ramdisk to speed up my everyday browsing by reducing the time my hard drive searched for cached pages. Just by doing that it made my surfing more responsive.

After fighting with Ram drive to actually function like a cache, (creating image files) I decided to search for a better product that is newer! I found one with some very interesting options.

1. It can create up to 1gb!!! <--If I had that much ram...ooooh
2. It can automatically create image files at shut down or timed intervals
3. Allows you to assign drive letters
4. Uses the 32bit format

I found only a few entries to the registry had to be adjusted in order for this to work. Basically point the registry to your new drive for both cookies and cacheing. Another thing I found that worked fairly well is copying my existing cache to my Ramdrive after the program is initialy started. Once and only once its needed and with periodic image writes never misses a beat.

The cost is kinda steep for software like this I think, but Im sure most people know how to get around that issue.

Also, if you go to thier web-site right now you cant even download a shareware version...but that didnt stop me from finding an old mirror with the softare still up

Anyways heres the link for the software if anyone is interested.

Windows 98/me
http://www.majorgeeks.com/getfile.php?file=271&site=2

Windows NT/2000
http://www.majorgeeks.com/getfile.php?file=272&site=2

kblarg · Post by **kblarg** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 8:56 am

Hey guys, you probly think im new here, but im actually a lurker... anyways.. I have this setup workin on my xp box.
To get it to work you follow all the same steps setting up the registry, and I set up my ramdrive to 1 meg using to microsoft software.
Here is what my .bat in startup has on it (keep in mind yours may not need all this b/c i need dhcp and im running zonealarm).

@echo on

Echo Starting TCP/IP Services

copy c:\windows\System32\DRIVERS\netbt.sys z:\
copy c:\windows\System32\DRIVERS\tcpip.sys z:\
copy c:\windows\System32\DRIVERS\afd.sys z:\
copy c:\windows\System32\DRIVERS\ipnat.sys z:\
net start afd
net start tcpip
net start netbt
net start dhcp
ipconfig

@pause
Path=C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\
zonealarm.exe

See how i had to use C: windows in the path? I think thats the key to getting it to work (at least on my box) you can double check by going to start>find and look to see where YOUR files are.
Anyways... this works (and its FAST), the only prob is that norton wont do email protection for me anymore... does all the other virus scan things tho. I think my 333mhz DDR ram might play a lil factor in how quick it is tho...... if you are stuck running 100mhz or below SDRAM you might not notice an appreciable difference.
Edit: This is on winxp home, i dont know if thats any difference tho.

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 10:51 am

Norton will still scan your email, the pause you set for Zone Alarm is causing Norton to not initialize your email protection. Try enabling the email protection after everything boots.

s75h · Post by **s75h** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 3:37 am

I'm new to the ramdisk thing so I'm trying to get all the info on this to make it work. I've read most of the posts on here but seeing that things have progressed since the first post software has come out to take a lot of the work out of it, which is great.

My problem is that after using some software (AR) to install a ramdisk I'm lost as to what step I should pick up on with respect to placing other things in this virtual drive (Z) such as TCP/IP.

Like kblarg, I'm using XP Home. I'd like to know how big I should set my Z drive. I have 512 megs of ram and I currently have it set to 20 megs with only my temporary internet files using it. The improvement in surfing is noticable and I'd like to use it for other purposes.

Thanks ahead of time for any help.

Mohan-san · Post by **Mohan-san** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 10:55 am

Originally posted by s75h
I'm new to the ramdisk thing so I'm trying to get all the info on this to make it work. I've read most of the posts on here but seeing that things have progressed since the first post software has come out to take a lot of the work out of it, which is great.

My problem is that after using some software (AR) to install a ramdisk I'm lost as to what step I should pick up on with respect to placing other things in this virtual drive (Z) such as TCP/IP.

Like kblarg, I'm using XP Home. I'd like to know how big I should set my Z drive. I have 512 megs of ram and I currently have it set to 20 megs with only my temporary internet files using it. The improvement in surfing is noticable and I'd like to use it for other purposes.

Thanks ahead of time for any help.

Temp files in the Ramdisk only works if you've visited the page before.

It doesn't boost browsing speed.

s75h · Post by **s75h** » Wed Sep 11, 2002 12:05 pm

I usually just look at the same sites from day to day.

jesus-lover · Post by **jesus-lover** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 3:43 pm

II undertsand how this works, and it's really ingenius! But how about other drivers ? Would this work for any driver? I know that system drivers are already in memory at boot but what about services (in W2k)? (you'd need a bigger ramdisk but in theory what services could this work for ?)

decrypt · Post by **decrypt** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:32 am

i try the tweak
but i got an error "Cannot create the file that already exist" when i try net start tcpip

Curt · Post by **Curt** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:44 pm

Here's a ramdisk for XP:

http://www.cenatek.com/product_ramdisk.cfm

E-mail from Cenatek:

"Curt,

Our products are best suited for specific applications that have disk I/O bottlenecks.

If your application (Windows debug) is disk I/O intensive then we have a fit. It sounds more like your system has reliability issues.

Here are a list of programs that benefit from RAMDisk and/or Rocket Drive:

Photoshop (scratch space)
Linux file system (journal files)
Citrix (swap space)
VMWare (OS instance)
SQL Server (Temp DB files)

Why is our product better than SuperSpeed? Well, the functionality is virtually the same, as far as I can tell. One major difference is that if you buy our software you can use it on any hardware (AMD, Intel, single or multiple CPU). They will sell you a different version based on your hardware. I would personally not buy software that was tied to what processor I use, because I frequently switch.

-Support"

Mcraez · Post by **Mcraez** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 2:46 am

Dose anyone know of a command for a bat file or a way to start up tcpip in Windows XP form a ramdisk or did i miss this in a previous post or is this even possible in XP. "net start" dose not seem to work for me in XP.

Thanks

Mcraez · Post by **Mcraez** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 5:31 am

OK cool i got it workin on XP like some of the other did i use this now if we could only speed up the load time

@echo on

Echo Starting TCP/IP Services

copy c:\windows\System32\DRIVERS\netbt.sys z:\
copy c:\windows\System32\DRIVERS\tcpip.sys z:\
copy c:\windows\System32\DRIVERS\afd.sys z:\
copy c:\windows\System32\DRIVERS\ipnat.sys z:\
net start afd
net start tcpip
net start netbt
net start dhcp
ipconfig /release
ipconfig /renew

Path=C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\
zonealarm.exe

@pause

y2whisper · Post by **y2whisper** » Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:51 am

so i got ramdisk xp edited the reg and ramdisk starts not using the bat file though since the drivers are on the disk at startup.

But when i used to use the bat file, the services start before the bat file is fully executed

My point is i don't know where the services are being run from is there any way to check? also if this is the case is there any way to make sure that the services start from the g drive ( i had to put everything there as ramdisk xp uses that as default but changed the registry accordingly)

I doubt that it is being run from ramdisk since my boot time is pretty quick

Ramdisk2004 · Post by **Ramdisk2004** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 6:20 pm

Curt wrote:Here's a ramdisk for XP:

http://www.cenatek.com/product_ramdisk.cfm

E-mail from Cenatek:

"Curt,

Our products are best suited for specific applications that have disk I/O bottlenecks.

If your application (Windows debug) is disk I/O intensive then we have a fit. It sounds more like your system has reliability issues.

Here are a list of programs that benefit from RAMDisk and/or Rocket Drive:

Photoshop (scratch space)
Linux file system (journal files)
Citrix (swap space)
VMWare (OS instance)
SQL Server (Temp DB files)

Why is our product better than SuperSpeed? Well, the functionality is virtually the same, as far as I can tell. One major difference is that if you buy our software you can use it on any hardware (AMD, Intel, single or multiple CPU). They will sell you a different version based on your hardware. I would personally not buy software that was tied to what processor I use, because I frequently switch.

-Support"

mmmm .... This is not an honest reason to tell people the product is better.

In the same way, one may announce that http://www.ramdisk.tk

has the BEST ramdisk because it has ... see above .... but it is cheaper and btw. VERY stable !

iflog · Post by **iflog** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 12:00 am

Looks like a lot of work. How much of an increase are we talking here ? Is it really worth the time to set it up ? I wasnt impressed with the longer start up times. Windows is slow enough now to start, why slow it down even more ?

zippi · Post by **zippi** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:23 am

cruze wrote:I have done the ramdisk voyage,never found much use for it.But as always cablenut and dan and jon have got my attention.I would guess these guys are working and testing out this outstanding move to the next level of speed.Don't always agree,but your always on top of the issues (BRAVO).I for one, am waiting from them for a more comprehensive test and conclusion.But as always to all on this site,you make my internet surfing much more enjoyable.I am always impressed by the intellect on this forum,thank you so much.

I'll definently have to second that, what a great place with some really great guys that are always searching for speed to share with the rest of us........
Got my registry backed up and am trying to figure a few things out myself....what an awsome forum with top notch people to help.....My new home away from home.

I really appreciate all you guy's do to make this board what it is.....#1

zippi · Post by **zippi** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:17 am

Defiant wrote:I tried the link, when I click it a blank page pops up, and when I right click to save target as, it says that the file could not be found. I guess it doesn't work for me...
if there aren't any other links could someone please e-mail it to me? My e-mail address is swu2@socal.rr.com. Thanks.

I just left clicked it and it came up really quick, I have the file your needing, do you have ICQ or anything?...........But he's right, it does work great

mkvdon · Post by **mkvdon** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:30 pm

Hello I juss tried to do the ramdisk tweak today..so I set it up i do all the registry editing..and set the size of the ramdisk to 33 mb and the letter to B:..so I reboot and it runs the script thingie..and then it says copy C:\winnt\system32\Drivers\tcpip,sys B:\ and the same thing for afd and then it says System cannot find the file specifed and then it closes an error occurs..can someone plz tell me what might have been wrong and what should i do to fix this?...plz HELP!!

Van Tango · Post by **Van Tango** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:02 am

Hi, I tried this ramdisk thingie but it's not working. I followed the instructions but it says it cannot find the disk specified. See image.

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