Ken wrote:How can you afford to pay more taxes when you can't afford healthcare...I wish that I had a pair of those rose colored glasses...
How do you propose to bring down the national debt?
Yep, it'll be expensive..
2008 Presidential Election poll and analysis
It appears bans on Gay Marriage have passed in Florida, Arizona and California with a ban on gay couple adopting kids in Arkansas passing also. Some other notable measures is Medical Marijuana passing in Michigan and allowing stem cell research. Oh and in Washington Doctor assisted suicide is apparently now allowed.
I never stopped to look at those results... So does this mean that the Gay Marriages that took place in the last few months are void in California?Roody wrote:It appears bans on Gay Marriage have passed in Florida, Arizona and California with a ban on gay couple adopting kids in Arkansas passing also.
I'm not sure if those marriages are grandfathered in or not. My guess is no, but I have nothing to base that on. If anyone finds out let us know.Sava700 wrote:I never stopped to look at those results... So does this mean that the Gay Marriages that took place in the last few months are void in California?
I would say its not grandfathered in and now they are void... it doesn't come out and say it but IMO it should void them.Roody wrote:I'm not sure if those marriages are grandfathered in or not. My guess is no, but I have nothing to base that on. If anyone finds out let us know.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/ ... index.htmlProposition Eight, which would eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry in California, was losing -- 53 percent to 47 percent, according to the polling. If it were to pass, it would overrule a state Supreme Court ruling in May legalizing same-sex unions.
Sava700 wrote:I would say its not grandfathered in and now they are void... it doesn't come out and say it but IMO it should void them.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/ ... index.html
How does gay marriage affect you?
Sava700 wrote:I have a uncle thats gay and its no big deal to me but I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman. Some may hate me for my choice but ohh well.
I don't hate you for your choice. I also don't care how you feel or what you believe...I asked, how does it affect you? Does it somehow deprive you of your rights in some way?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/05/ ... =poltickerObama transition began before Election Day
(CNN) -- Even before Sen. Barack Obama won the presidential election, he was quietly building a transition team.
In fact, both Obama and Sen. John McCain were laying the groundwork to shift from campaign to White House transition -- the 10 weeks between the election and the inauguration isn't enough time to assemble a team to lead the country.
CNN Political Editor Mark Preston said Obama's victory speech on Tuesday launched the transition.
"The campaign was over when McCain called to concede," Preston said. "Tonight's speech was about governing. It was a very serious tone -- he was setting the tone, taking his first steps as president." Watch Obama's acceptance speech »
CNN Senior Political Analyst Gloria Borger said that it's important to take steps quickly to set the right tone, pointing to President Clinton, who waited weeks to fill Cabinet positions and announced many of his top staffers just five days before he was sworn in.
"Everything you do early on in a presidency gets magnified. You don't want to make the same mistakes that Bill Clinton made," Borger said.
Obama has no public events scheduled on Wednesday. He will most likely travel to Hawaii soon for the funeral of his grandmother, who died on Monday.
He is expected to name his White House chief of staff as early as Wednesday. Rep. Rahm Emanuel, a Chicago colleague, is the clear front-runner for the job.
Emanuel helped lead Democrats to majority control of the House in 2006. He was elected to the House in 2002 and is currently the fourth-highest-ranking member of the chamber's Democratic leadership.
He also worked on President Clinton's first presidential campaign and served as a White House adviser to Clinton.
John Podesta, a former chief of staff under President Bill Clinton, will be among those leading Obama's transition team. Valerie Jarrett, one of Obama's top advisers, and Peter Rouse, Obama's Senate chief of staff, will also be involved the effort.
Jarrett told CNN that Obama will begin making public his plans for the transition soon.
"In the days ahead, you will be hearing more directly from Sen. Obama ... about the steps that he'll be taking to get prepared to lead on January 20," she said shortly after Obama gave his victory speech.
Filling out his economic team is a top priority for Obama as he begins to implement a strategy to quell the economic crisis.
"This is one of the first times that I can remember that the secretary of the treasury is going to be almost as important as the secretary of state," said David Gergen, a senior political analyst for CNN, who served in the Reagan and Clinton administrations.
Names circulating for the secretary of the treasury position include Timothy Geithner, Lawrence Summers and Paul Volcker, among others.
Geithner helped deal with Wall Street's financial meltdown earlier this year, overseeing the acquisition of Bear Stearns by JPMorgan Chase and the bailouts of AIG and Lehman Brothers. He was appointed president of the New York Federal Reserve in November 2003.
Summers was appointed treasury secretary in July 1999 and served as the chief economist of the World Bank from 1991 through 1993. Prior to his career in government, he taught economics at Harvard.
Volcker is a former chairman of the Federal Reserve, serving under Presidents Carter and Reagan. He also worked in the private sector as an investment banker and headed the investigation into the United Nations' oil-for-food program for Iraq.
The White House is holding an economic summit on November 15. Obama could delay naming his economic team in order to avoid interfering with the G-20 summit.
Obama's national security team is another priority as the country fights wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. It could also be an area where he goes outside his party for an appointee.
Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel and current Defense Secretary Robert Gates are among the names floating around for that team.
Hagel, who was elected to the Senate in 1996 and is a Vietnam veteran, has been a fierce critic of the Bush administration's handling of the Iraq war.
Gates has served in Bush's cabinet for almost two years. He worked for the Central Intelligence Agency for 27 years, serving as its director from 1991 through 1993. He also served as deputy national security adviser under President George H. W. Bush.
"What Barack Obama has to do in the transition time is set the tone," Borger said. "If he reaches out to Republicans in the cabinet -- if he decided to keep Bob Gates at Defense -- that's really, really important."
You're posting on a forum. Why is it you expect nobody to respond to your posts?
It was a direct question by UOD to you in public. Let me stress that again. In public. That gives pretty much anyone reading this, an opportunity to respond.
Now as to the question on if gay rights affect your own rights? Of course not. IMHO, there shouldn't even be a need for specific laws to cover any group of people. Those laws arise when one demographic isn't afforded the same rights as a hill billy in northern Arkansas.
If you don't want your views noted or responded to, then take it to PM's or don't post. It's pretty simple. Again, it's a forum.
Trolling list? No. Are you a target? Yes by your select way of posting. As am I when you feel you need to respond to one of my posts, which you manage to do quite often, yet I haven't resorted to calling you a troll for it. I just figure that any thing I post, anyone can respond. Again, IT'S A FORUM. lol
It was a direct question by UOD to you in public. Let me stress that again. In public. That gives pretty much anyone reading this, an opportunity to respond.
Now as to the question on if gay rights affect your own rights? Of course not. IMHO, there shouldn't even be a need for specific laws to cover any group of people. Those laws arise when one demographic isn't afforded the same rights as a hill billy in northern Arkansas.
If you don't want your views noted or responded to, then take it to PM's or don't post. It's pretty simple. Again, it's a forum.
Trolling list? No. Are you a target? Yes by your select way of posting. As am I when you feel you need to respond to one of my posts, which you manage to do quite often, yet I haven't resorted to calling you a troll for it. I just figure that any thing I post, anyone can respond. Again, IT'S A FORUM. lol
downhill wrote:
If you don't want your views noted or responded to, then take it to PM's or don't post. It's pretty simple. Again, it's a forum.
Ohh hell no.. you see I can express my view on this Public forum without having to defend my opinion or choice.. I don't see anybody standing behind me at a voting machine to try to discredit my choice so it shouldn't be a factor here.
You expect me to sit here and have some long drawn out discussion over everything we disagree about and it ain't going to happen cause I won't change your mind and you won't change my mind. I don't see why its so hard for you to understand on this "Public Forum"
downhill wrote:Wow, are you trolling me? After all, even though it's a forum, you just responded to me.
Should I have my feelings hurt over it? Let me give it some thought...
See where I'm going with this? You can't have your cake and eat it to.
my God your unbelievable... ohh and that wasn't a insult before you claim it was.Sava700 wrote:Ohh hell no.. you see I can express my view on this Public forum without having to defend my opinion or choice..
So what was your need in expressing it at all?
I'm confused Frank, if you don't want to discuss your point of view, then why post it?
Are ya that bored at work? Load up an ISO of WinXP Pro with SP3 slipstreamed.
Sava I understand your argument that you prefer to debate in person, but when you choose to make statements and then pull away from questions asked of you it does open you up to criticism. All DH is saying is if political discussion is something you prefer to do in person then do it in person otherwise the only other options are discuss it on the forums or be prepared to get criticism for stirring up the pot.Sava700 wrote:Ohh hell no.. you see I can express my view on this Public forum without having to defend my opinion or choice.. I don't see anybody standing behind me at a voting machine to try to discredit my choice so it shouldn't be a factor here.
You expect me to sit here and have some long drawn out discussion over everything we disagree about and it ain't going to happen cause I won't change your mind and you won't change my mind. I don't see why its so hard for you to understand on this "Public Forum"
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Well, at least he is starting out good as Emanuel has a Masters Degree... in Speech and Communication... That should really be an asset!Roody wrote: He is expected to name his White House chief of staff as early as Wednesday. Rep. Rahm Emanuel, a Chicago colleague, is the clear front-runner for the job.
http://www.house.gov/emanuel/aboutrahm.shtml
Picking local people from Chicago will also help as everyone knows how well Chicago is doing.... Highest sales tax, murder rate, debt, worst school system, etc. One can only aspire that our country will soon become in as a great shape as Chicago!
Ken wrote:Well, at least he is starting out good as Emanuel has a Masters Degree... in Speech and Communication... That should really be an asset!
http://www.house.gov/emanuel/aboutrahm.shtml
Picking local people from Chicago will also help as everyone knows how well Chicago is doing.... Highest sales tax, murder rate, debt, worst school system, etc. One can only aspire that our country will soon become in as a great shape as Chicago!
Obama won Florida. Obama is gonna foreclose on all those house boats.
I don't think you can disguise your vitriol much longer. You and YoSC both need exorcisms.
Also, on behalf of SG, I apologize to all Chi-Town citizens for Ken's remarks about your school systems and culture in general. You do not deserve that kind of treatment.
Hey factman, I think that you need to check the facts...UOD wrote:Obama won Florida. Obama is gonna foreclose on all those house boats.
I don't think you can disguise your vitriol much longer. You and YoSC both need exorcisms.
Also, on behalf of SG, I apologize to all Chi-Town citizens for Ken's remarks about your school systems and culture in general. You do not deserve that kind of treatment.
Point them out Ken.Ken wrote:Hey factman, I think that you need to check the facts...
If you can blindly make generalized assertions without supporting evidence...well, as they say, monkey see, monkey do.
So let's talk about the historical murder rate of Chi-Town and who was in office during each year.
Let's start with 1998 when Chi-Town topped off at 700 murders and was coined murder capital of the world. Who was responsible for the decline? We can play all day long Ken, I'm on vacation.
Hello McFly, ...we are talking about the current state, time and who currently runs IL... What I wrote is facts, why don't you use your vacation time to TRY and disprove them...UOD wrote:Point them out Ken.
If you can blindly make generalized assertions without supporting evidence...well, as they say, monkey see, monkey do.
So let's talk about the historical murder rate of Chi-Town and who was in office during each year.
Let's start with 1998 when Chi-Town topped off at 700 murders and was coined murder capital of the world. Who was responsible for the decline? We can play all day long Ken, I'm on vacation.
And, if your into lil games, why don't you go back to Abe's time in leadership there...
Ken wrote:Hello McFly, ...we are talking about the current state, time and who currently runs IL... What I wrote is facts, why don't you use your vacation time to TRY and disprove them...
And, if your into lil games, why don't you go back to Abe's time in leadership there...
Doesn't hold water and you know it.
But I can easily shift and and hit right back with the same logic you are using. So here it is.
Since we are talking about the current (time) state of things and who is responsible for it....let's look at the current economy, the national murder rate, the two wars we're involved in, etc. Since W. is responsible for all that and more, we can easily and swiftly infer that we don't want America to be in such disarray any longer...and that is why the people of this great country voted for change.
Ok, so back to more questions which you can't answer.
Who is in power in Chicago and has been since the murder rate started to rise again? Can you list names?
What cities alongside Chi-town have shown declines for the same time period? (2006-2008)
Have all cities crime rates risen or only certain cities?
Oh yeah, here is another fact for ya....Florida voted for Obama.
Back at ya!UOD wrote:Doesn't hold water and you know it.
But I can easily shift and and hit right back with the same logic you are using. So here it is.
Since we are talking about the current (time) state of things and who is responsible for it....let's look at the current economy, the national murder rate, the two wars we're involved in, etc. Since W. is responsible for all that and more, we can easily and swiftly infer that we don't want America to be in such disarray any longer...and that is why the people of this great country voted for change.
Ok, so back to more questions which you can't answer.
Who is in power in Chicago and has been since the murder rate started to rise again? Can you list names?
What cities alongside Chi-town have shown declines for the same time period? (2006-2008)
Have all cities crime rates risen or only certain cities?
Oh yeah, here is another fact for ya....Florida voted for Obama.
I see that you are doing your typical dancing around the post again...PS. I don't own FL, nor do I see Obama mention that he is putting FL people in his cabinet. Nor was it relevant to my post (see aforementioned dancing reference) Nice try though!
PSS. I followed the queue from some interviews in Harlem and have asked a few people today who were celebrating Obama's victory, about what they thought about his choosing a woman for VP. The overwhelming majority said that she would do "awright"...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27524587/Franken, Coleman race heads for recount
Republican Norm Coleman and Democrat Al Franken were facing a lengthy wait for the results of a recount Wednesday after one of Minnesota's tightest Senate elections ever.
With 100 percent of precincts reporting, Coleman led Franken by 570 votes out of nearly 2.9 million cast. Coleman had 1,210,940 votes to Franken's 1,210,370 votes.
The margin falls within the state's mandatory recount law, which requires a recount any time the margin between the top two candidates is less than one-half of one percent.
Dean Barkley of the Independence Party was third with 15 percent, and exit poll data showed him pulling support about equally from Coleman and Franken.
Minnesota Secretary of State Mark Ritchie said the recount won't begin until mid-November at the earliest and will probably stretch into December. It will involve local election officials from around the state.
Franken, a former writer and performer on "Saturday Night Live", said his campaign was already looking into reports of irregularities in Minneapolis where some voters had trouble registering, though he wouldn't elaborate.
Franken said the margin was "four one-hundredths of one percent of the vote".
"There is reason to believe that the recount could change the vote tallies significantly," Franken added. "This has been a long campaign, but it is going to be a little longer before we have a winner."
Democrats gain
Coleman's bid for a second term came against a strong Democratic headwind nationwide, led by Barack Obama's big presidential victory.
Overall, Democrats fattened their majority control of the Senate, ousting Republican Sens. Elizabeth Dole of North Carolina and John Sununu of New Hampshire and capturing seats held by retiring GOP senators in Virginia and New Mexico.
Piggybacking on the excitement level raised by presidential victor Barack Obama and his voter-registration and get-out-the-vote drives, Democrats increased their effective majority to at least 56 seats in the 100-member Senate.
They did not turn over a single seat to Republicans. All Democratic incumbents on the ballot prevailed.
Three races with Republican incumbents remained to be resolved — in Alaska, Oregon and Georgia.
In Georgia, Sen. Saxby Chambliss appeared to be safe in his race against Democratic challenger Jim Martin. But it was not certain that Chambliss would garner more than 50 percent of the vote, which he needed to prevent a runoff election.
But Republicans stopped a complete rout, holding the Kentucky seat of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and a Mississippi seat once held by Trent Lott — two top Democratic targets.
North Carolina state Sen. Kay Hagan, little known politically before her run, defeated Dole — a former Cabinet member in two Republican administrations and 2000 presidential hopeful. Dole had tried to tie Hagan, a former Presbyterian Sunday school teacher, to atheists in an ad that appeared to backfire.
Two Udalls win
In New Hampshire, former Democratic Gov. Jeanne Shaheen defeated Sununu in a rematch of their 2002 contest.
In pair of western races, Reps. Tom and Mark Udall took over Senate seats held by retiring Republicans. Tom Udall, the son of former Interior Secretary Stewart Udall, defeated Republican Rep. Steve Pearce to succeed Pete Domenici in New Mexico. Tom's cousin Mark, the son of the late Rep. Morris Udall of Arizona, won the Colorado seat held by Republican Wayne Allard, who did not seek re-election.
Former Democratic Gov. Mark Warner breezed to victory in Virginia to take a Senate seat held for five terms by retiring GOP Sen. John Warner, beating another former governor, Republican Jim Gilmore. The two Warners are not related.
Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden won another six-year term representing Delaware in the Senate. It became moot when Obama won the presidential election.
Democratic Sen. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, the only serious GOP target, won her re-election over Republican state treasurer John Kennedy.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., attributed the Democratic gains to Obama's coattails.
"It's been a really good night," Reid said in an interview with The Associated Press. "Obama ran a terrific campaign, he inspired millions of people."
McConnell, the Senate Republican leader, had been a target of national Democrats after leading successful filibusters against much of their legislative agenda the past two years. He won re-election against two-time Democratic gubernatorial candidate Bruce Lunsford in a contentious race.
"Winston Churchill once said that the most exhilarating feeling in life is to be shot at — and missed," McConnell said late Tuesday. "After the last few months, I think what he really meant to say is that there's nothing more exhausting."
GOP wins in Mississippi
In a tight Mississippi contest, Republican Roger Wicker, squeaked past former Democratic Gov. Ronnie Musgrove to serve another four years of the term originally won in 2006 by Lott. Wicker was appointed to the post temporarily after Lott stepped down.
With Warner's victory in Virginia, Democrats now control both Senate seats and the governor's mansion. Virginia usually votes Republican in presidential elections, but Obama also won there Tuesday.
Democrats had counted on a slumping economy, an unpopular war and voter fatigue after eight years of President Bush to bolster a razor-thin 51-49 effective majority they've had the past two years after adding six seats in 2006.
They set a sky's-the-limit goal of controlling 60 Senate seats when the new Congress convenes in January — the magic number needed to prevent Republicans from blocking bills and judicial nominees. It was always a long shot.
But having a majority in the high 50s will enable Democrats to exercise far more control than they have now, since some Republicans probably would join them in efforts to break Senate logjams on many bills and judicial appointments.
But some observers believe hard-line Democrats hoping to bring a unified party to the new Senate may be disappointed.
Many of the new Democratic senators will more than likely bring some of their state's conservative values to the Senate and may vote against the party line on some social and economic issues. Also, the conservative Democrats already in the Senate sometimes vote with Republicans. That group includes Democrats from Nebraska, Montana, Louisiana, West Virginia and both Dakotas.
As the Cook Report's Jennifer Duffy explained it, "There are enough Democrats who abandon the party's position on any given issue to make 60 something of a false number."
Still, Democrats will wield more control in committees because committee membership is proportional to the size of the Senate majority. Currently, the Democrats' slim majority translates into a one-seat advantage on almost every committee. But the Democrats could pick up as many as two more seats per committee. The final numbers are negotiated with Senate Republican leaders.
Included in the Democrats' majority are two holdover independents, Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, who have voted with them for the most part over the past two years. However, Lieberman, the Democrat's vice presidential nominee in 2000, spent most of 2008 campaigning for McCain.
It was unclear even to Senate leaders Tuesday night whether Lieberman would continue to caucus with the Democrats or keep his chairmanship of the Senate Homeland Security committee. Reid said in the interview that he'll discuss the matter with the Connecticut senator later this week.
Democrats will lose two incumbents: Obama and Biden. Democratic governors in Illinois and Delaware are sure to appoint Democrats to replace them.
Democrats had fewer seats to defend than Republicans. Of the 35 races on Tuesday's ballot, 23 were held by Republicans, 12 by Democrats.
Targeting Stevens
Another possible pickup for Democrats: Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska. Stevens, at 84, the longest serving Republican in Senate history, sought re-election despite calls from GOP leaders to resign after he was convicted last week of seven counts of lying on Senate financial disclosure forms.
He was locked in a tight contest with Democrat Mark Begich, the mayor of Anchorage.
With more than 40,000 absentee ballots to be counted within 10 days of the election, Stevens went home late Tuesday to get some sleep, his political future uncertain.
Republican Sen. Gordon Smith in Oregon was also on the list of Democratic targets.
Republicans held the Nebraska seat of retiring Sen. Chuck Hagel, with former Gov. Mike Johanns defeating Democrat Scott Kleeb, a college history instructor. Johanns resigned as Bush's agriculture secretary to make the race.
Republicans also held the Idaho seat of Sen. Larry Craig, who decided not to run for re-election after he was caught last year in a men's room sting. Idaho Lt. Gov. Jim Risch won the seat.
Republican incumbent senators who cruised to re-election included Lindsay Graham in South Carolina, Susan Collins of Maine, Jeff Sessions in Alabama, James Inhofe in Oklahoma, Lamar Alexander in Tennessee, Pat Roberts in Kansas, Thad Cochran of Mississippi, John Cornyn of Texas and Michael Enzi in Wyoming. Sen. John Barrasso, appointed after Wyoming Sen. Craig Thomas died, was elected to fill the remaining four years of Thomas' term.
Democratic senators easily winning re-election included Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, Dick Durbin of Illinois, John Kerry of Massachusetts, Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey, Carl Levin of Michigan, Tim Johnson of South Dakota, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Max Baucus of Montana, Tom Harkin of Iowa and Jack Reed of Rhode Island.
Ken wrote:Back at ya!
PS. I don't own FL, nor do I see Obama mention that he is putting FL people in his cabinet. Nor was it relevant to my post (see aforementioned dancing reference) Nice try though!
PSS. I followed the queue from some interviews in Harlem and have asked a few people today who were celebrating Obama's victory, about what they thought about his choosing a woman for VP. The overwhelming majority said that she would do "awright"...
Dancing?
I'll tell you what Ken, if you think I am dancing, spell it out for me. Ask me a direct question and I will answer it and if that isn't good enough for you, then let's do a 3 way call with Philip on the line so that you can't accuse me of being mean to you.
You are painting a very narrow and limited picture in order to push your own agenda on us. Well, I can see that and I can also see the bigger picture.
You really need to research your assertions. Assigning blame to Obama does what for your argument?
Here are some facts:
Numbers of murders (homicides) in Chicago per year:[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago
* 1990: 851
* 1991: 927
* 1992: 943
* 1993: 931
* 1994: 929
* 1995: 827
* 1996: 789
* 1997: 759
* 1998: 704
* 1999: 641
* 2000: 628
* 2001: 666
* 2002: 647
* 2003: 598
* 2004: 448
* 2005: 449
* 2006: 467
* 2007: 435
* Total:12639
Let's play Ken.
How'd I miss this. I'd love to but according to the RNC, that would be socialism.Sava700 wrote:I may never have grandkids..I'm thinking of my kid right now and how he's going to grow up in the next 4 years with high costs at the pump, food and whatever. You keep on thinking that far ahead for us and while your at it pay my share if you wish to pay more.
well I don't know... I mean I don't want to say you might be blind or something you might take that the wrong way as a insult..or you just over looked something thats more important to many Americans now and not 30 years from now. We have to make it today to get to tomorrow.downhill wrote:How'd I miss this. I'd love to but according to the RNC, that would be socialism.
Obama was an Illinois state senator and never had anything to do with governing Chicago. After months of arguing he had no mayor-level executive experience, it seems a little odd to pin any issues that city has on him.Ken wrote: Picking local people from Chicago will also help as everyone knows how well Chicago is doing.... Highest sales tax, murder rate, debt, worst school system, etc. One can only aspire that our country will soon become in as a great shape as Chicago!
But Actually, Chicago doesn't even enter the top ten for cities with murder rates-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... crime_rate
I don't see any point focusing on Emmanuel when there are so many staff picks to discuss-
Geithner helped deal with Wall Street's financial meltdown earlier this year, overseeing the acquisition of Bear Stearns by JPMorgan Chase and the bailouts of AIG and Lehman Brothers. He was appointed president of the New York Federal Reserve in November 2003.
Summers was appointed treasury secretary in July 1999 and served as the chief economist of the World Bank from 1991 through 1993. Prior to his career in government, he taught economics at Harvard.
Volcker is a former chairman of the Federal Reserve, serving under Presidents Carter and Reagan. He also worked in the private sector as an investment banker and headed the investigation into the United Nations' oil-for-food program for Iraq.
Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel and current Defense Secretary Robert Gates are among the names floating around for that team.
Gates has served in Bush's cabinet for almost two years. He worked for the Central Intelligence Agency for 27 years, serving as its director from 1991 through 1993. He also served as deputy national security adviser under President George H. W. Bush.