Building a computer from Newegg..

Mutch · Post by **Mutch** » Fri Jul 19, 2002 7:43 pm

How much would it cost for a top of the line system

With like

1 gb ddr ram- The best kind possible
Best amd chip- 2200?
Geforce 4 ti4600
No mouse, No monitor, no keyboard, no modem, no speakers, no head phones..
Good ethernet card
Good case
52x cd rom
Very good burner
And some good fans...

Sorry If this is a stupid post.. I just thought someone could help me out here.. Newegg doesnt want to work on my computer for some reason...

Also. Im in canada, but have relatives in the states.. I have heard that newegg doesnt deliver to Canada..??

Thanks..

GatoNanashi · Post by **GatoNanashi** » Fri Jul 19, 2002 8:04 pm

Personally I dont like AMD chips very much, they have been "quirkey" in my experince. But sounds like a good rig, just make sure you get a full tower and plenty of fan space. Hell I would even consider drilling a hold in th side and adding one there if you can. Mine was overheating alot for some reason, so I took it out of the cabnet (the fans were in the back not the side then) and made more fan plugs....now everythings peachy!

Mutch · Post by **Mutch** » Fri Jul 19, 2002 8:09 pm

Estimated price on this bad boy?

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Fri Jul 19, 2002 10:09 pm

Hey Mutch,
I am going to send you to hardware as those guys would be able to help you better.
I will be along in a bit and give you some info...

Set · Post by **Set** » Fri Jul 19, 2002 10:46 pm

Id wait for dual chanle ram and serail hard drives

but what id get of now

MOBO ASUS P4S533 SiS645DX 100 bucks

pen4 1.8 clock that baby up to 2ghz 250 some

wester D 8meg cache 40 gig what 150 give or take

proply liteon bunner and 52x cdrom 100 or so

550 ther

but id go pen 4 man like 1.8 1.9 and just O/C it mabye go with the new 512k cache

pick a nice full towwer case with nice power supply

Ti4600 i got one and now i wish id would of got one of the gainwind ti 4200 with that huge heatseak on it

Lan card intel and 3com are the best i like linksys cards, cheep

that amd rig with ram would be up ther id say 800+

HongKongPolice · Post by **HongKongPolice** » Fri Jul 19, 2002 10:54 pm

Omg i'm sick of seeing ppl order parts online. WHY ARE ORDERING PARTS ONLINE?!?!? Goto a LOCAL store and they'll have ALL the parts you need, and if you bargain, you can even get TAX FREE!!

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Fri Jul 19, 2002 11:07 pm

1 gb ddr ram- The best kind possible

CORSAIR MEMORY XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series CMX512-2700C2 PC2700 DDR RAM 333MHz w/ Heat Spreader - OEM 512MB 64x64, Non-ECC, 184-Pin, CAS 2.0 -Unbuffered Requires DDR supported Motherboard - Lifetime Warranty. Model#: CMX512-2700C2 -OEM Special Free FedEx Saver Shipping
$208 each x2=$416 for 1GB

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.a ... 666&depa=1

or

MUSHKIN DDR 512MB PC-2700 - OEMAMD, VIA, ALI, SiS Approved, PC2700 = 333MHz FSB, Rated 2.5-3-3; 6ns DDR333; 6-Layer PCB; Unbuffered. LifeTime Warranty. Model#: 512PC2700 -OEM Special Free FedEx Saver Shipping
$168 each x2= $336 for 1GB

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.a ... 504&depa=1

Best amd chip- 2200?

AMD ATHLON XP 2200+/266 FSB PROCESSOR CPU - OEM
Specifications:
CPU: 1.8 GHz
Type: XP 2200+ Thoroughbred
Cache: 256K
BUS: 266MHz
Socket A (PGA) OEM (Processor Only) Model#: AXDA2200KV3C *** Click here for CPU Cooling Device. *** -OEM Special Free FedEx Saver Shipping
$211
(Although the 2100+ is $21 cheaper...)

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.a ... 028&page=3

Geforce 4 ti4600

GAINWARD/CARDEXPERT GeForce 4 Ti 4600, 2.8ns, Twin-DVI, 128MB DDR, Power pack and Golden Sample, VIVO. 2 DVI connectors + 2 CRT adaptors + a (3+1)-port IEEE1394 firewire card, OVERCLOCKING, enhanced performance mode, game, DVD and Video editing software included, Retail box. Please see images. Mfr's P/N: VGF4TI4600G Model#: GF4TI4600Ultra/750XP Special FedEx Saver Shipping $6.00
$338

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.a ... 387&depa=1

No mouse, No monitor, no keyboard, no modem, no speakers, no head phones..

Good ethernet card

3COM 905CX-TXNM PCI 10/100 Network Card *No Wake-Up* - OEM Connectors: RJ-45. Bus: 32-bit, 33 MHz PCI. Operating distance (10BASE-T): Category 3, 4, 5, 5e UTP to 100 m (328 ft). Operating distance (100BASE-TX): Category 5, 5e UTP to 100 m (328 ft). IEEE compliance: 802.3, 802.3u, 802.3x, 802.1p/Q. Standards compliance: PCI 2.1/2.2, PC99/2001. Model#: 3C905CX-TXNM ( Need network cables? Click here for different colors & lengths.) -OEM Special FedEx Saver Shipping $5.00
$35

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.a ... 295&depa=1

Good case

Lian-Li PC-70 USB, 15-Bay, Aluminum ATX FULL Tower Case. SILVER. With 4 USB ports at front, 6 - 5.25" bays, 3 - 3.5" bays, 6 - 3.5" hidden bays, Pentium 4 compatible. SILVER colored. Size: 210X640X595mm. No power supply. Power Supply Sold Separately. Model#: PC-70+USB *** Click here for POWER SUPPLIES. *** FedEx Saver Shipping $15.00
$209

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.a ... 375&page=2

(I really like this case, I have no cooling probs at all...

But you could get a lesser expensive, but you did say top of the line...

)

52x cd rom

I use SCSI, so I really don't know...
Maybe some of the others can help with this, but you should be able to get one for around $50...?

Very good burner

Lite On 48x12x48 CDRW Model LTR-48125W Retail CD Rewriter 48x Write, 12x Rewrite, 48x Read, Comes with cd-rw media. Retail Box with Nero software, manual and Audio cable. Model#: LTR-48125W Special Free FedEx Saver Shipping
$93

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.a ... rder=price

(Again, I use SCSI, so this is just from what I hear...)

And some good fans...

I use quite a few of the thermal takes smart fans...

Sorry If this is a stupid post.. I just thought someone could help me out here.. Newegg doesnt want to work on my computer for some reason...

Allow cookies for them...

Also. Im in canada, but have relatives in the states.. I have heard that newegg doesnt deliver to Canada..??

You have heard correct! Send it to your relatives...

A couple of other things that you will need:

Power Supply Unit:

If you are going to be a bear, be a grizzly!

ENERMAX EG651P-VE(FMA). 550W Power supply for AMD K7 & Pentium4. Meet AMD K7 and Intel ATX +12V 1.1 and ATX 2.03 version (Pentium 4 fully support). Ultra cooling design: one 9 cm fan intake heat and one 8 cm fan exhaust heat. Fan Speed monitored by M/B & Adjustable. 9cm Thermal Control Fan. Retail box. Model#: EG651P-VE(FMA) Special FedEx Saver Shipping $6.00
$192

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.a ... 400&page=3

Motherboard:

Asus VIA A7V333 Chipset ATX Motherboard w/ RAID
AMD Athlon XP Ready, C-Media CMI-8738 Onboard Sound. ASUS C.O.P. (CPU Overheating Protection), Support DDR333 (PC2700) **Promise IDE Raid ATA133** USB 2.0 Ready, TI controller1 x 1394 port, Asus Q-FAN (Variable Fan Speed Control) 5 x PCI 1 x AGP4X 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets. Max 3GB PC2700/PC2100/PC1600 DDR Must be Purchased with other Hardware ! i.e. Case, CPU, ... Order will not be processed if Sales Order consists of mother board only. Model#: A7V333Raid Special Free FedEx Saver Shipping
$143

If you are going to OC, then you may want a quality HSF, you didn't mention hdd's, figure $40 in cables,...it should finish right around $2k...
Now if you want to do it right with SCSI and throw 15,000rpm Cheetahs in it,... well, I just finished mine a month or so ago, it came in just under $5k...

Are you sure that you want a top of the line?

aagiants · Post by **aagiants** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 12:31 am

Originally posted by HongKongPolice
Omg i'm sick of seeing ppl order parts online. WHY ARE ORDERING PARTS ONLINE?!?!? Goto a LOCAL store and they'll have ALL the parts you need, and if you bargain, you can even get TAX FREE!!

Well here in CT its about 30min drive to the closest one that is decent, all others overcharge out of the ass, and newegg is still cheaper none the less

Mutch · Post by **Mutch** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 12:34 am

Hey Hongkongpolice.. I have no decent stores in this city.. Unless you mean futureshop? Or maybe Mdg?

Yea, that's what I thought.. Now hush young one..

Mutch · Post by **Mutch** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 12:36 am

First off. ken, I would like to thank you for your time.. In looking up all that stuff for me..

Second off, is that American? If it is.. Ouch..

aagiants · Post by **aagiants** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 12:40 am

yes that canadian, not get serious and buy a decent system... I think its crazy to buy the newest stuff cause 2 months down, the price will drop a lot... And for your CS needs u dont need nething like that...

Get a p4 1.6 of 1.8
and about 512mb of decent ram like samsung of mushkin

Mutch · Post by **Mutch** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 12:51 am

This will be my College computer though.. I would like to have a really good one.. This is the family computer, and I will need my own for school..

GatoNanashi · Post by **GatoNanashi** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 2:41 am

Originally posted by HongKongPolice
Omg i'm sick of seeing ppl order parts online. WHY ARE ORDERING PARTS ONLINE?!?!? Goto a LOCAL store and they'll have ALL the parts you need, and if you bargain, you can even get TAX FREE!!

I have plenty of stores, I just dont like buying crap that some fool had his hands on, or droped in the back room or whatever. I dont trust buying comp parts from stores, except for cases and cd burners and drives, thats it

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 10:18 am

Hey Mutch,
No problem. Yes, the price was American.
As Aagiants said, you really don't need a box like that... An aweful lot of money for something that will be "outdated" by technology in a few months...

We are on the brink of some great tech break throughs such as Serial ATA, the Sledgehammer AMD, etc... A system that was top of the line 6 months ago can do everything that you will need it too and not cause your family financial hardships... And you can always upgrade later!!!

For less than $1000, maybe say $600, you can have a box to be proud of!
I know about the higher end stufferz, and these guys know much more than I about the practical stufferz, so let's let them give you some ideas!
Why don't you run a thread and ask for help designing a functional puter for University and lets see what they come up with!
Ken

Mutch · Post by **Mutch** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 10:25 am

Ouch. That price was American. Ouch.

I would like to get a computer for college.. But have a good one for gaming.. $600 Canadian isn't going to get me much.. Considering a 17' monitor is like $200

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 10:30 am

I wasn't including the monitor in the $600 price as you had said in your first post not to include a monitor...

If you want, tonight I will see what I can come up with for you...

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 11:31 am

Plenty of decent priced systems out there for what you need and still plenty of power

If buying now these are the parts I'd go with

I'll list Intel system first then AMD

Intel Platform:

Case: Any case will work, you don't need an expensive one, get a mid tower ATX case that is compatible with P4 (requires different mounting holes on the mobo tray)

Power Supply: Enermax 350w

Mobo: MSI 845G MAX (supports 533fsb P4's and has integrated sound, video and ethernet and uses DDR). Or if you want REAL power Asus P4T533 but it uses 32bit RAMBUS.

CPU: P4 1.8Ghz has a LOT of oc'ing potential

RAM: 512MB Corsair XMS

Video Card: If gaming is not your thing stick to the Integrated video, if it is get a Radeon 8500 128MB card for right now, or wait for Radeon 9700 though it will be expensive.

Sound: Mobo has that Integrated

Ethernet: Integrated

Hard Drive: Depends how big and what you need, the WD 80GB Special Edition drives are piced WELL now.

DVD-ROM: SKip the CDROM get a 16X Lite-on DVD ROM

CDRW: Lite-On 40X CDRW

All this can be had for a GREAT price and is plenty powerfull

AMD Side:

Case: Any case will work, you don't need an expensive one, get a mid tower ATX case.

PSU: Enermax 350w

Mobo: Any KT333 based, or whatever chipset you prefer some have Integrated ethernet and audio so look for those.

CPU: AXP 1800+

RAM: 512MB Corsair XMS

Video Card: Get a Radeon 8500 128MB card for right now, or wait for Radeon 9700 though it will be expensive.

Sound: Get a mobo with integrated sound

Ethernet: Integrated ethernet too

Hard Drive: Depends how big and what you need, the WD 80GB Special Edition drives are piced WELL now.

DVD-ROM: SKip the CDROM get a 16X Lite-on DVD ROM

CDRW: Lite-On 40X CDRW

Both systems can be had for an excellent price and plenty good

and upgradable

Mutch · Post by **Mutch** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 11:52 am

Thanks for putting some time into that post Brent.. But..

This computer will be lasting me for how ever long I am in college...

If I build it in like 6 months or so, it will be over a year outdated, then it will be like 3 years outdated. Since I'm going to community college..

So I don't want to spend a lil amount of money in 6 months, then in 2 years spend a lil bit more..

I would like to just buy an amazing one and let it last me.. Am I wrong to think that this idea is a better one?

ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LOVE TO DO IS BUY LIKE A P3 650 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND TAKE IT APART AND PUT IT BACK TOGETHER....

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 11:56 am

then wait

first decide what platform you want

AMD or Intel ?

Dual Channel DDR is around the corner if you like DDR and can go that route on Intel or AMD platform

32bit RAMBUS 4200 is also out now and could go that route on the Intel platform

Serial ATA this fall also

And of course bestest vid card being Radeon 9700 out in 1 month

And then Hammer on the horizon as well

And P4's keep getting faster

HongKongPolice · Post by **HongKongPolice** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 12:05 pm

Originally posted by Mutch
Hey Hongkongpolice.. I have no decent stores in this city.. Unless you mean futureshop? Or maybe Mdg?

Yea, that's what I thought.. Now hush young one..

Shut up dude, you're the same age as me "YOUNG ONE"

Get a copy of Toronto Computes, theres GOT to be some local stores around you, its not like you live in Redneck country. Even if there isn't, how far is it to drive to the nearest decent store? No more than an hour

MikeyMan · Post by **MikeyMan** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 12:49 pm

Hongkongpolice:

http://www.compusa.com/products/product ... ode=290667 unknown stepping

or

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.a ... 19-103-333 AGOGA

Mutch · Post by **Mutch** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 1:40 pm

Hour and a half to Toronto.. That's alot of driving if I have to go back and fourth to bring back parts..

Mutch · Post by **Mutch** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 1:43 pm

Brent. I would like to thank you again for your opinions. They mean alot to me as you are a computer "nut" and you know your crap..

First off, I would like to get an amd, as I have heard only good stories from friends who have them.

I don't want to get the new radeon card. As that will be like $700 Canadian.. One thing I might do is when the new nvidia card comes out I would think about getting that.. Ive had an ati radeon and again, it was nothing but problems..

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 2:19 pm

Mutch,
A GF4 Ti4400 or Ti 4200 is more than enough to take you through the near future in games. And cost a lot less...

Get a good ATX case. Good ventilation and enough bays for expansion... IMHO, no less than 2 at 80mm intake and 2 at 80mm exhaust fans...
Get a great psu. This is the main thing that I would say to not skimp on... Most cases that are sold with a psu, have a crap psu in them... Either consider them "upgrading the psu" or get a case with out one... The psu can cause you more unexplained problems than just about any hardware fault...

Same logic as the video card, applies to the cpu... Get an XP 1800+ or 1900+... The difference is basically not noticeble...
You could actually drop down from the XP and still be fine...

A good mobo utilizing ddr 333, PC2700 will do you well...
512 MB of RAM is a great amount. For your applications, anything more than 2 at 256MB is a waste... Really...

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 2:23 pm

haha, Ken, I saw that type before you fixed it

5 MB of RAM would not be enough lol

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 2:25 pm

Originally posted by Brent
haha, Ken, I saw that type before you fixed it

5 MB of RAM would not be enough lol

hehehehehhehee Yes! I looked at it and said What the heck did I do! heheehhehehehe

I guess 5MB would be a bit of a problem on todays boxes!! *LOL*

Mutch · Post by **Mutch** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 2:46 pm

Psu....

That is power supply correct? Arg. Now I need to get a job.. So I can save my money and buy this computer.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 3:16 pm

Originally posted by Mutch
Psu....

That is power supply correct? Arg. Now I need to get a job.. So I can save my money and buy this computer.

Yes, sorry, psu is power supply unit...

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 3:50 pm

Originally posted by HongKongPolice
Omg i'm sick of seeing ppl order parts online. WHY ARE ORDERING PARTS ONLINE?!?!? Goto a LOCAL store and they'll have ALL the parts you need, and if you bargain, you can even get TAX FREE!!

Shut up dude, you're the same age as me "YOUNG ONE"

Get a copy of Toronto Computes, theres GOT to be some local stores around you, its not like you live in Redneck country. Even if there isn't, how far is it to drive to the nearest decent store? No more than an hour

Whoa, easy there dude. Calm down a bit.

While something may apply to you, it does NOT apply to everyone else. If you have a good computer store near you, or even if you have one within driving distance, it doesn't mean everyone else does.

I'm completely in favor of supporting a local business over another one in a different state. But when the best "deal" the local one can give me is $18 for an IDE cable or $80 for a crappy case, I have no choice. Add that to a paltry stock of comonents that might've impressed someone four years ago, and you can see why I (like many others) prefer to order online. I wouldn't mind paying a little more to support the community, but that's not always an option.

And as far as bargaining for something to be "tax free", it isn't so. If you bargain with someone and they end up dealing you an offer that'll remove the tax on the price, THEY still have to cough up with the tax dough. Sure, you make out with a little deal, but they definately don't.

And now that you brought up tax, let me tell you something. A while ago, I was pricing some parts on Newegg, back when their shipping rates were pretty high on everything (now its just high on some of the stuff

). Even though the total shipping price seemed quite large, especially compared with places like TCWO that charge a flat rate, I calculated it to still be less than HALF what I would've paid on the tax on the parts buying something at a physical store. Combine that with pretty damn good prices on the parts themselves, and you can see why I order online.

Fine, you made a point that people need to look beyond "online" when shopping for something, computer parts or otherwise. But taking a hostile attitude, or attacking a member who's looking for help won't get anyone's attention to your point, at least not in a positive way.

poptom · Post by **poptom** » Sun Jul 21, 2002 12:57 am

Power supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer ATX 400. Expensive, but the regulation is superb:
http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/ ... et_atx.htm

You don't need a lot of fans if you plan your air flow carefully.
( I'm happy with one fan, myself).

koldchillah · Post by **koldchillah** » Sun Jul 21, 2002 5:01 pm

CASE: Enlight 7237 w/ 340W ATX PSU & case fan - $70

CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2200+ - $230

MOTHERBOARD: Asus A7V333 (onboard sound disabled) - $115

MEMORY: 512MB Samsung PC2700 DDR - $125

HARD DRIVE: 120GB W.D. se w/ 8MB cache IDE - $175

VIDEO CARD: Leadtek NVidia GeForce4 Ti4600 128MB DDR - $340

CD DRIVE: Lite-On 48x CDRW drive - $85

DVD DRIVE: Lite-On 16x DVD drive - $40

NIC: Netgear 10/100 Network Interface Card - $20

MODEM: 56K PCI Rockwell (Hardware Modem) - $20

MONITOR: KDS 19" vs-190P monitor - $225

SOUND CARD: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum - $165

SPEAKERS: Klipsch Pro-Media 5.1 - $365

TOTAL = $1975.. just under $2000!

Of course that is if I was building it for myself.

My clients pay more of course after you add licensed software, assembly costs, & 1 year on-site warranty.

MikeyMan · Post by **MikeyMan** » Sun Jul 21, 2002 9:03 pm

VIA Chipset and a SB card, girl, is you crazy?

TB Santa Cruz, $50, the 6.1 card is now at newegg for a 1/4th of that..

koldchillah · Post by **koldchillah** » Mon Jul 22, 2002 11:26 am

i've never ever, ever ever had an issue of ANY sort with a sound blaster card (been using them since 1995), with any chipset or any O/S. I've got probably 30 PC's out in the field right now with sound blaster/VIA mixed. Not yet have I had an issue.

If they become troublesome, they will be tossed.

does the TB santa cruz have stereo RCA inputs & SPDIF & Firewire & remote control on it? Thats the main reason I like the audigy platinums besides the fact that they've never given me probs.

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