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motymen · Post by **motymen** » Mon Jan 21, 2002 5:08 pm

hello im an adsl user
i tweaked my win 2000 server in registry using tweack master and manualy
before i did any change backuped my whole registry(with regedit)
now: how can i restore it?
and i mean delete my new reg and put my old ?

and u asking wy?

there are keys i want to delete
if i merge my backuped reg file it will only create new or change
existing keys it doesend delete new keys created (that are
not in my old backup
could someone help me?

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Mon Jan 21, 2002 5:11 pm

It will put registry back to the way it was when you created it:

1.) Backing up your registry is the most important thing you need to do, here's how:
First bring up REGEDIT, type REGEDIT in your run box and click OK
On the Registry click on file, then export, choose where you want to place it, then name it at bottom of box Reg with date (reg0801)
At bottom click on all, then click on save. Your done. Now if you ever get in trouble you can import it, anytime you add a program you must update the REG so the new programs are in registry, just back it up to the same one you just made, it will overwrite it, if you do not do this and import registry any new programs will not work as they are not in Registry.

motymen · Post by **motymen** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 10:24 am

i see u didnt understand my post so ill post it again :-\\
hello im an adsl user
i tweaked my win 2000 server in registry using tweack master and manualy
before i did any change backuped my whole registry(with regedit)
now: how can i restore it?
and i mean delete my new reg and put my old ?

and u asking wy?

there are keys i want to delete
if i merge my backuped reg file it will only create new or change
existing keys it doesend delete new keys created (that are
not in my old backup) and those r the ones that make the problems

earthmofo · Post by **earthmofo** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 10:38 am

It's what Lobo said. In Regedit Import the backup you made. It will overwrite the existing registry.

Micro · Post by **Micro** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 6:32 pm

Originally posted by earthmofo
It's what Lobo said. In Regedit Import the backup you made. It will overwrite the existing registry.

You and Lobo really should try these things you recommend once in a while so you'd have a clue as to whether or not they work.

Importing is the same as merging, it only overwrite matching keys or add keys, it DOES NOT delete keys and that's his problem.

motymen - If you know what keys you added, delete them manually.
If you used a reg file to add them make a copy of the reg file and put a - in front of each key in the reg file. This will delete it from the registry. Then import your old registry before rebooting.
Regedit doesn't have capabilities beyond that.
**************************************************
Example in a reg file

[HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1409082233-796845957-682003330-500\Software\HiddenSoft]

To delete the reg key modify the reg file by adding a - in front of the entry

-[HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1409082233-796845957-682003330-500\Software\HiddenSoft]

**************************************************
Your other choices would be to use System Restore if your OS has it and you had it enabled and you have a restore point before you modified the registry. Or restore it with a Ghost image if you made one. Or restore your last backup before your registry foray.
And if you say you don't have one, I'd ask WTF would you be running W2kServer and not make backups.

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 7:06 pm

Because I’m not a smart person… or Win2K is smarter than me, it appears I can backup my registry but when "seconds later" I try to restore it I get this error. Suggestions?

Micro · Post by **Micro** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 10:15 pm

doc
Contrary to what a lot of people think the registry is dynamic, not static.

If you're intent is to restore the entire registry by importing a reg file, it ain't gonna happen. That's one of the reasons why System Restore came along.
Regedit was only designed to restore Branches, not the entire Registry, trust me, I was there to test it in '94 (it's a 16bit app from the Chicago beta.)

Some Apps and services constantly check or write to the registry, so they "hold keys open" while they are in use, and those keys won't be overwritten. You can help yourself by logging on as administrator, closing all apps and shutting down most services, before you try to import the entire registry. ('course Regedit doesn't actually export all of the registry keys anyway)

that help any ?

MadDoctor · Post by **MadDoctor** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 1:04 am

Yes it does. Thank you. I don't mind it not working... I just want to know "why" it doesn't work.

Doc

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 7:03 am

So what you are saying Micro is that if I add a program, then import my old registry before program was installed that program stays in registry, does not on mine

Lee_Nover · Post by **Lee_Nover** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 7:42 am

Format c:

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 7:58 am

WARNING, ALL DATA ON NON-REMOVABLE DISK
DRIVE C: WILL BE LOST!
Proceed with Format (Y/N)?

WARNING, ALL DATA ON NON-REMOVABLE DISK
DRIVE C: WILL BE LOST!
Proceed with Format (Y/N)?

motymen · Post by **motymen** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 11:47 am

I DONT WANA FORMAT C:
(well i do want to shoot the pc but i for now i need my server so it will keep being a wish

)
well to the buisnes
i did a backup with "regedit"
can i overwritte my reg from the backup file?
if i can what i need 2 do?

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 11:50 am

Just import old registry, and programs installed after import date will have to be run again

motymen · Post by **motymen** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 12:45 pm

i want to OVERWRITE
not to MERGE
OK??!

1 thing: i dont remeber what did i change so i have 2 delet the keys
only way 2 do that is 2 OVERWRITE THE ENTIRE REGISTRY WITH THE BACKUPED OLD ONE!!!!!

2 thing: READ AGAIN WHAT MICRO POSTED U MAY LEARN SOMETHING!

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 12:49 pm

Just go to control pannel add/remove and uninstall that program, why the CAPS, bye

I don't believe everything I read, I have rebackuped my registry several times, took me back to when I backedup?

Micro · Post by **Micro** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 6:33 pm

Originally posted by Lobo
So what you are saying Micro is that if I add a program, then import my old registry before program was installed that program stays in registry, does not on mine

I don't recall saying anything about programs, we/motymen were talking about registry entries for services.

But since you brought it up - yes.
Just because you've broken the links created by a program by importing an exported registry in Regedit (and of course the program won't run), doesn't mean the entries the program made in the registry were deleted.

Only those keys that matched keys in the original exported registry would be overwritten by an imported registry.
Any new keys added that did not have a matching key in the original exported registry would not overwritten or deleted.
(Heck, 90% of uninstall programs leave registry entries, 'course you got to know where to look and what to look for, 'cause each registry entry is looked at at boot up, at those that are dead ends just add to boot time and in many/some cases add to response time when the GUI is up)
A merge or import is EXACTLY that, it is not a delete.
Doesn't matter what Windows OS you are talking about, it works the same in all since Win95.
You might want to do a little registry cleaning of your own, from the sounds of things.

You can backup the registry in any of the NT versions with it's included tools, but you definitely don't use Regedit.
Regedit is NOT a registry backup tool, it was and is designed for what it's name is- editing the registry, either directly or by exporting and importing registry entries. Heck, it can't even export or import a complete NT based registry, nor can it access the complete NT based registry.

Try exporting your security settings using Regedit, for instance. Heck, try finding them using Regedit.

SnotRocket · Post by **SnotRocket** » Thu Jan 24, 2002 7:38 am

In this particular situation.....why could he not go and rename the reg file within dos and then go and rename his backup or exported or merged...whatever term that you gurus wish to call it to reg.sys. If it gets him back to normal...he could go and delete the original that he renamed. I tryed this on my machine and it worked just fine. Beware.....Do not delete the reg file before you check to see if the renamed will get you booted. Do all of the above from a boot disk and choose the boot computer with cd rom support. This opinion will work with win 98, 2000, and xp. Let me know how it worked out for you.

By the way, ,,,the one guy is correct....a import will only write over already existing keys. It will not delete keys that are alreay in the registry nor does it replace.

Best,
Ricky

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Thu Jan 24, 2002 8:20 am

Well on mine it deletes entire registry and imports old one

motymen · Post by **motymen** » Thu Jan 24, 2002 3:37 pm

Originally posted by SnotRocket
In this particular situation.....why could he not go and rename the reg file within dos and then go and rename his backup or exported or merged...whatever term that you gurus wish to call it to reg.sys. If it gets him back to normal...he could go and delete the original that he renamed. I tryed this on my machine and it worked just fine. Beware.....Do not delete the reg file before you check to see if the renamed will get you booted. Do all of the above from a boot disk and choose the boot computer with cd rom support. This opinion will work with win 98, 2000, and xp. Let me know how it worked out for you.

By the way, ,,,the one guy is correct....a import will only write over already existing keys. It will not delete keys that are alreay in the registry nor does it replace.

Best,
Ricky

LOL i tried that but i didnt find the registry file :-\
if u could guidem me where 2 find it or how it is called...
tx
motymen

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Thu Jan 24, 2002 3:41 pm

What OS are you on

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Thu Jan 24, 2002 3:47 pm

Boot to DOS prompt. Type scanreg /restore (space between g and /), hit enter, use down arrow on keyboard to select date PRIOR to problems, hit enter, reboot, this should restore registry to that date

Micro · Post by **Micro** » Thu Jan 24, 2002 5:10 pm

I give up.
I take it none of you have a clue as to how the registry works in NT/W2k/XP

scanreg/restore - Lobo would you please at least read the thread before throwing out garbage, he's looking for help, not wild geese. He said in his very first post in this thread that he was using Win2k Server, you wanna tell him where to find scanreg in that OS (especially since it doesn't exist there) and there's no Dos prompt in an NT based OS, just a Command Prompt, and they ain't the same thing.

rename the reg file - SnotRocket, I take it you don't use an NT based OS. The registry is made up of multiple files in NT/Win2k/XP, which do you propose to rename, cause it really wouldn't matter anyway, a reg file is not in the correct format to be read by the OS as one of those files, so the OS wouldn't boot.
A registry exported by regedit is not a complete registry as regedit doesn't have that ability, it's a bloody editor, not a backup application.

motymen - You can't do what you're trying to do, with what you've got. You don't have a registry backup, you only have some exported keys and that's a very long way from be the same thing.
Nothing short of reinstalling the OS cleanly will accomplish what you are trying to do (unless you can remember what/all the entries you added were)

Next time use the help button/function in Win2k.
It's that simple.
If you had it would have told you how to backup your registry correctly, and that has absolutely nothing to do with using a registy editor.

good luck.

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Thu Jan 24, 2002 5:31 pm

I use Go Back from http://www.roxio.com as it does not use any resourses, just like system restore so maybe I am mixed up

SnotRocket · Post by **SnotRocket** » Thu Jan 24, 2002 8:11 pm

In Windows 2000 and Windows XP, the Registry is stored in several Hives, located in the \windows\system32\config and \Documents and Settings\{username} folders.
There are six main branches (five in Windows 2000 and Windows XP), each containing a specific portion of the information stored in the Registry. They are as follows:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT - this branch contains all of your file types as well as OLE information for all your OLE-aware applications.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER - this branch points to the part of HKEY_USERS appropriate for the current user.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE - this branch contains information about all of the hardware and software installed on your computer. Since you can specify multiple hardware configurations, the current hardware configuration is specified in HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG.
HKEY_USERS - this branch contains certain preferences (such as colors and control panel settings) for each of the users of the computer. In Windows 95/98/Me, the default branch here contains the currently-logged in user. In Windows 2000/XP, the default branch here contains a template to be used for newly-added users.
HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG - this branch points to the part of HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE appropriate for the current hardware configuration.
HKEY_DYN_DATA (Windows 95/98/Me only) - this branch points to the part of HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, for use with Windows' Plug-&-Play subsystem.

SnotRocket · Post by **SnotRocket** » Thu Jan 24, 2002 8:18 pm

Here is an idea...Microsoft's Regestry Cleaner

http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10 ... 7-1.881470

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