Comments re: Windows XP Tweaks

Kip Patterson · Post by **Kip Patterson** » Wed Oct 31, 2001 8:57 am

This thread is for comments, experiences and suggestions concerning Windows XP tweaks, as outlined in the thread above.

Kip

EvilAjax · Post by **EvilAjax** » Wed Oct 31, 2001 9:23 am

The system tweaks have definitely made my Windows XP life much easier, and faster. Great tweaks if you ask me.

NIC Buffer tweaks on the other hand, made me slower... much slower. But those are just my experiences (being honest)

It could work differently on anyone.

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Oct 31, 2001 9:24 am

Right now there are so many OS's out there like XP, you have RC1, RC2, RTM (Released to manufacturing) , upgrade version, plus the Warez version, so it is all new to alot of us, in XP I use DeafaultRecieveWindow of 51000 or 64240 as it is alittle faster, I still recommend you put RWIN in 3 places as per SG's instructions, but you can play and find out what works best for you and your setup. I do not feel comfortable with all the OS's out there to give out NIC buffer sizes, please try different setting's and choose the fastest for your OS and connection, Cablenut seems to have fast number for small RWIN's, but some are still blank, some times blank (Default sizes are best) again just try if you wish and find numbers that make your connection faster, I have tried and tried for 4 days to come up with numbers that would work with all these and
couldn't. The DefaultRecieveWindow on XP and W2k are up to you,
if they work fine, if not put back in your TCP Window Size

Carla C · Post by **Carla C** » Wed Oct 31, 2001 11:25 am

Hiya guys!

Right now the only thing I changed on my EL cheapo win xp is the Rwin and maxconnections etc.

It seems like XP is already fast even with default settings.

Carla

P.S. My WinXP is pretty slow on shutting down =( weird

Sgt Pepper · Post by **Sgt Pepper** » Wed Oct 31, 2001 2:38 pm

Mine seems to be pretty fast as it is without any tweaks...will probably try a couple of the tweaks to see if there are any improvements...on the whole though, XP seems to run faster than the previous incarnations of windows...

stevenpro · Post by **stevenpro** » Wed Oct 31, 2001 4:04 pm

I have the final version of XP Pro (no tweaks) and the first time I went on the internet I noticed a major speed increase over Win 98SE with tweaks. I have since applied the IRQ tweak and the delete of the "D" line tweak in the registry. I have no idea what the speed is in numbers, but it seems real fast (but I'm thinking about tweakXP)...just not sure

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Wed Oct 31, 2001 4:48 pm

No to Tweak XP, checkbook stuff, go to some of the sites in my XP tweaks and get FREE programs

Kno One · Post by **Kno One** » Thu Nov 01, 2001 2:38 am

ok so what is the major diferences between RC1, RC2, RTM , the upgrade, and the Warez versions and does the diferences make that much of a diference in the tweeks you use?

FYI im going to upgrade from win98 to the XP pro corp vers. next week once i get my new hard drive

yaaaaaaaaa

funky · Post by **funky** » Thu Nov 01, 2001 6:35 pm

RC1 and RC2 have unfixed bugs that may affect you. Whether as the final retail version, it may not have as many, although it does have some.

Adramalech · Post by **Adramalech** » Fri Nov 09, 2001 6:43 am

Hi..

After I installed WindowsXP I noticed a significant increase

in speed for web and the usual like.. however as I am an Online Game nut. I have now noticed a significant LAG increase whilst in game..

And so I am a little alarmed as to what exactly XP is doing.. I have a collegue who has exactly the same hardware and isp only he's still using Win98SE and his ping was pretty good around 70 odd whilst ingame where as mine was in the regions of 300 odd.. which isn't..

And so are there any online gamers in this situation using DSL and XP? and will these changes sort this problem out does anyone know?

Carla C · Post by **Carla C** » Fri Nov 09, 2001 11:49 am

Hiya,

I play a lot of online games as well. XP did not change my ping times at all

Carla

OldSurferJoe · Post by **OldSurferJoe** » Fri Nov 09, 2001 3:42 pm

Hi I am running XP and have Pegasus Express Sat. Works ok! They are clearly in fix mode (Beta) with this system! Don’t buy if you are impatient! It is unstable and is down or slow more than it is up! I run have run the standard tweaks and am not sure if it helped, but it is hard to tell because you are competing with the Sat system itself (I am running the stock at the moment). One really important tweak and this is why I am writing this - is for USB modems which Pegasus is. Assigning more memory to the IRQ for my modem significantly improves performance. My setting is for IRQ 11 (I think) and I set it in the system.ini under and at the end of [386enh] is IRQ11=16348. I am not really an expert with tweaking so here are my questions:

How do you determine which IRQ your modem is assigned to under XP? Under XP IRQ assignments and sharing appear to have been improved, but you can’t see what USB controller the modem is on – thus you can’t see what IRQ it is on.

Where do I edit the Rwin=37440 – where do I put it? I know this maybe obvious, but I am missing it.

Are there any other suggestions or comments!

Right know I get 160k down and 38k up regularly and sometimes 1400K/130K (Rarely). Suppose to be 480K/180K (as advertised)

vlozity · Post by **vlozity** » Mon Nov 12, 2001 12:13 am

I've had problems changing my MTU value in XP with a PPPOE connection type. CableNut says that XP defaults to 1480 regardless of changes made. Anyone know of a fix???

OldSurferJoe · Post by **OldSurferJoe** » Mon Nov 12, 2001 12:38 am

I applied both tweaks for 2000, but when you run analyzer it still seems to see only the default value - where to tweak??

Another issue I was having is with WinFax 10.2 - got a message from Microsoft about problem and was told to disable several *.dll's that seemed to help. The problem had to do specifically with outlook, but it seems to have affect browsing as well.

Still would like to know how to isolate IRQ in XP - in 2000 it was easy the resources showed up in properties, not so in XP. I have tried setting IRQ's with IRQ#=4096 but this does little it you do not know the speciific IRQ. It appears to need two - one for the controller and one for the port itself. In 2000 I had IRQ11 set to IRQ11=16384 this significantly increased preformance. XP seems to share the IRQ's more across the board!

Lobo's tweaks seem to disable to many things - tried some, but they seem to disable things that provide the critical functions - the reason for XP!

Interested in comments???!!!

EvilAjax · Post by **EvilAjax** » Mon Nov 12, 2001 6:35 am

IRQ11=16384 LMAO Are you serious?

OldSurferJoe · Post by **OldSurferJoe** » Mon Nov 12, 2001 12:19 pm

The performance increase was significant! Remember I am using a USB SAT 2Way system!

Still wish someone would answer the questions!

Adramalech · Post by **Adramalech** » Mon Nov 12, 2001 1:40 pm

Carla, do you have DSL and XP? as I am finding some grief with ping loss and latency after I upgraded to XP and using DSL..

My DSL modem is one of the Alcatel SpeedTouch USB fellas..

I am at this point wondering if its drivers..

Quiet Storm · Post by **Quiet Storm** » Fri Nov 16, 2001 6:30 am

i started my computer with XP and just got cable. it was damn fast, i could download at 400k/second. only thing was it wasnt good enough for me, i dont know what was running through my head but i messed around with all the settings and applied a patch that was for Me or NT4 or something nad messed up everythin,g now the max speed i get is like 6kb/second. anyone able to help or give me a patch thatll set all the settings back to default?

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 12:10 pm

Follow directions on help thread below

HalfLifer · Post by **HalfLifer** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 12:15 pm

Originally posted by Quiet Storm
i started my computer with XP and just got cable. it was damn fast, i could download at 400k/second. only thing was it wasnt good enough for me, i dont know what was running through my head but i messed around with all the settings and applied a patch that was for Me or NT4 or something nad messed up everythin,g now the max speed i get is like 6kb/second. anyone able to help or give me a patch thatll set all the settings back to default?

Download the correct default patch for your Operating System.

http://www.speedguide.net/Cable_modems/ ... ches.shtml

Lobo, read his post before you respond so you know what hes asking for.

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 4:21 pm

Cablenut removes all prior patches so if he installed the wrong one, he needs it removed, right bottleneck

HalfLifer · Post by **HalfLifer** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 4:23 pm

right bottleneck? WTH Is a right bottleneck?

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 4:29 pm

Nay, I say you a lamer, a young one

HalfLifer · Post by **HalfLifer** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 4:51 pm

Originally posted by Lobo
Nay, I say you a lamer, a young one

Your posted has been reported. Good day.

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 5:34 pm

You use adjuster, why should he not?

HalfLifer · Post by **HalfLifer** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 5:52 pm

Lobo, why are you twisting words and going way off track? I said nothing about not using the adjuster, AT all.

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 6:28 pm

Then why not get adjuster and remove prior patches at same time

HalfLifer · Post by **HalfLifer** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 6:29 pm

Err....wow you got problems man...you make no sense..

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 6:33 pm

What don't you understand, if he gets Cablenut he gets adjuster so he can tweak plus prior patches are removed, simple, think about it

HalfLifer · Post by **HalfLifer** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 6:35 pm

You go off topic. Ill post something and you go way out in left field

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 6:38 pm

I love sports

OldSurferJoe · Post by **OldSurferJoe** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 6:43 pm

Hey your guys what do you think of Tweakmaster? I really like the interface and the meter. I have using it for a couple of weeks its very stable and usable.

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 6:50 pm

What is Tweak master and where is it at, never heard of it

Lobo · Post by **Lobo** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 6:56 pm

I just did search and found it, 29.95, to rich for me when you get it free here

OldSurferJoe · Post by **OldSurferJoe** » Mon Nov 19, 2001 6:57 pm

Wow! I find a new one on the experts - heres the link!

http://www.tweakmaster.com/main.php

Check it out!

EvilAjax · Post by **EvilAjax** » Wed Nov 21, 2001 5:32 pm

Looks like the dumbest crap in the world.

Oh, and what you just did... was spam. This is not allowed here at speedguide.

xfactor_nc · Post by **xfactor_nc** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 7:25 pm

Originally posted by Carla C
Hiya guys!

Right now the only thing I changed on my EL cheapo win xp is the Rwin and maxconnections etc.

It seems like XP is already fast even with default settings.

Carla

P.S. My WinXP is pretty slow on shutting down =( weird

Some people have noticed that they are experiencing a really slow shutdown after installing Windows XP Home or Professional. Although this can be caused a number of ways, the most clear cut one so far is happening on systems with an nVidia card installed with the latest set of drivers. A service called NVIDIA Driver Helper Service is loading up on start up and for whatever reason doesn't shut itself down properly. The service isn't needed and can also decrease the amount of memory available to your system. Here is how to disable it.

1: Go into your Control Panel

2: Select Administrative Tools and then click on Services

3: Right click on the file "NVIDIA Driver Helper Service" and then select STOP (Do NOT disable it yet).

After that Reboot to test the shutdown speed. If that works like it did here then:

4: To stop this loading up every time you boot up your PC Right click it again and select properties - then where the option "Startup Type" is shown - make sure it is set at Manual

Hope that helps

|X-Factor|

Zcylic · Post by **Zcylic** » Mon Nov 26, 2001 2:53 pm

I have tried Everything to Up my MTU to 1500! I always get these settings! I am using a Cisco PIX behind a Bridged Cayman Router (Using MaBell's DSL Service). Please Help!
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TCP/IP Analyzer Settings
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TCP options string = 020405640103030201010402

MTU = 1420
MTU is not fully optimized for broadband. Consider increasing your MTU to 1500 for better throughput.

MSS = 1380
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1380, which is equal to MSS.
MSS is not fully optimized for broadband (although it might work well for slower connections). Consider increasing your MTU value.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 256960
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 2 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 64240
For optimum performance, consider changing RWIN to a multiple of MSS.
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
507840 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 8)
253920 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 4)
126960 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 2)
63480 (MSS x 46)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 10278.4 kbps (1284.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 4111.36 kbps (513.92 KBytes/s) @ 500ms

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 51 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON

IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000

___________________________________________________

I have tried several Tweak Utils, Edited my Reg settings, but nothing works! I have not found anything about my PIX keeping my MTU to 1420 and my MSS size down!
I am running XP. I use to run Windows ME, and it would handle the maxMTU and maxMSS sizes and SG tweaks fine! I had a lot better throughput, and a better constant rate! I am almost to the point of uninstalling XP. Please Help!
Thanks!
Z

Cerwin_Vega · Post by **Cerwin_Vega** » Tue Nov 27, 2001 11:11 pm

Originally posted by Carla C
P.S. My WinXP is pretty slow on shutting down =( weird

Have you "Disabled" the Nvidia Helper service that comes with the 21.8x drivers from "services.msc"? Assuming you have Nvidia drivers.

Cerwin_Vega · Post by **Cerwin_Vega** » Wed Nov 28, 2001 12:07 am

TweakXP.com

I have found a lot of helpful insight there. MANY tweaks.

SG Broadband Community

Comments re: Windows XP Tweaks

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