The Five on FOX News at 5:00 today....make sure to watch

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Tue May 22, 2012 4:10 pm

O'Reilly will be on The Five today to show who is REALLY behind the "Occupy Movement".

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Tue May 22, 2012 10:08 pm

Now class, lets begin with Liberals 101.

David · Post by **David** » Tue May 22, 2012 10:55 pm

Gentlemen,

Let us be civil.

Your Left of Center Moderator.
-david

David · Post by **David** » Wed May 23, 2012 12:25 am

Additional thread-o-plasty....

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Wed May 23, 2012 11:10 am

mnosteele52 wrote:O'Reilly will be on The Five today to show who is REALLY behind the "Occupy Movement".

Unless you saw something I didn't, he didn't say anything. I even watched at 8 and still nothing. I think he got the "STFU" memo.

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Wed May 23, 2012 11:55 am

mnosteele52 wrote:O'Reilly will be on The Five today to show who is REALLY behind the "Occupy Movement".

I just have to ask...what's wrong with the Occupy Wall St movement? I'm just curious as to why every member of the GOP isn't out leading the protests.

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Wed May 23, 2012 2:05 pm

JawZ wrote:I just have to ask...what's wrong with the Occupy Wall St movement? I'm just curious as to why every member of the GOP isn't out leading the protests.

Because it's BS, it's funded and backed by Soros as nothing but a ploy. It's all been planned for a long time, it's not some peaceful protest and they are targeting the wrong people, it needs to be Occupy Pennsylvania Ave., but you can't protest who is paying you.

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Wed May 23, 2012 2:20 pm

Here's a link to the video:

O'Reilly Factor

David · Post by **David** » Wed May 23, 2012 3:29 pm

Mnosteele,

Clearly the press secretary no prepared for the question.

The video shows police beating protestors with batons, no comment about from the Murdoch puppet.
It stated the Soros has contributed... 400,000 dollars. Not exactly funding and backing... It also mentions union contributors.
So now the Fox hound chirps about "professional agitators" taking over the movement. Which brings to the table two questions, does O'Reilly acknowledge that the nascent movement had merit and where do you go to find these "professional agitators.

Honestly, The talking head is saying nothing of consequence. I suppose the GOP PAC's has spinning the Evil Marionetteer from Europe, George Soros is running this country. At this point, much of America is disillusioned with the leadership on both sides.

Evan, many of the protestors who I know would tell you that TEA party members were present at the occupy Wall street.

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Wed May 23, 2012 5:22 pm

David, believe what you will. I know what is true and you soon will find out as well, soon there will be no denying that Soros is the puppet master.

RaisinCain · Post by **RaisinCain** » Wed May 23, 2012 5:56 pm

Yeah... right.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Wed May 23, 2012 6:33 pm

RaisinCain wrote:Yeah... right.

really ? stirring the pot after sniveling to the mods ? LOL

you need to just go crawl back under your rock.

RaisinCain · Post by **RaisinCain** » Wed May 23, 2012 7:11 pm

Dan wrote:really ? stirring the pot after sniveling to the mods ? LOL

you need to just go crawl back under your rock.

I'm not stirring anything. You're just an idiot running your mouth (as usual). Why don't you go and crawl under the first post and just disappear? WTF are you talking about sniveling? I have never done any such thing (they apparently can't stand either of you as well).

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Wed May 23, 2012 7:14 pm

raisincain wrote:i'm not stirring anything. You're just an idiot running your mouth (as usual). Why don't you go and crawl under the first post and just disappear? Wtf are you talking about sniveling? I have never done any such thing (they apparently can't stand either of you as well).

lol

David · Post by **David** » Wed May 23, 2012 7:14 pm

mnosteele52 wrote:David, believe what you will. I know what is true and you soon will find out as well, soon there will be no denying that Soros is the puppet master.

Mnosteele,

There is no hiding how adamant you are, however that does not make it true. I understand your perspective and its basis and respect you for it.
A reason why I defer to Jawz, in spite of his punch mouth subtlety, he has been around the block with these discussions and knows the ends to which the powers that be will fabricate the "truth"
This particular video is farcical.

David · Post by **David** » Wed May 23, 2012 7:18 pm

Gentlemen,

I do not dislike those who disagree with me. I would hope that your age and intelligence would conquer your emotions and pride.

Carry on, I have my children to attend.

pax vobiscum,
-david

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Wed May 23, 2012 7:18 pm

RaisinCain, you are definitely going to be a short timer here. Dan and I have been here for a long like many others and we have seen many members come and go. We don't always agree with one another and sometimes things might get heated, but one thing we do is show respect for one another, something you do not seem to understand.

RaisinCain · Post by **RaisinCain** » Wed May 23, 2012 7:32 pm

I'm not trying to start a feud. Just a friendly discussion (may get pissy at times). I just have different beliefs than you. Just voicing my opinion. That's all. If you can't handle that then just hit the ignore button I guess.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Wed May 23, 2012 7:34 pm

mnosteele52 wrote:RaisinCain, you are definitely going to be a short timer here. Dan and I have been here for a long like many others and we have seen many members come and go. We don't always agree with one another and sometimes things might get heated, but one thing we do is show respect for one another, something you do not seem to understand.

RaisinCain · Post by **RaisinCain** » Wed May 23, 2012 7:42 pm

Dan wrote:

So now I have to give rep to mno to post when dealing with this thread? Ridiculous.

RaisinCain · Post by **RaisinCain** » Wed May 23, 2012 7:44 pm

So who cut me off?

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Wed May 23, 2012 7:52 pm

RaisinCain wrote:So now I have to give rep to mno to post when dealing with this thread? Ridiculous.

no stupid, LOL all that meant was that I liked what he said and I couldn't give him rep points again yet.

RaisinCain · Post by **RaisinCain** » Wed May 23, 2012 7:59 pm

Dan wrote:no stupid, LOL all that meant was that I liked what he said and I couldn't give him rep points again yet.

Well ******* I was referring to the fact that I can't post a response anymore.

RaisinCain · Post by **RaisinCain** » Wed May 23, 2012 8:00 pm

I get a little red box when I try.

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Wed May 23, 2012 8:12 pm

RaisinCain wrote:I get a little red box when I try.

well,sorry,but it looks as though you have been banned then

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Wed May 23, 2012 8:24 pm

Are you still having an issue RaisinCain? Drop me a PM if you see this but can't respond for some reason.

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Wed May 23, 2012 9:08 pm

We can tell others what we see and how it will play out. They chose not to believe it, even when it's proven to them. It's a shame, but that's the way it is. Ultimately, we are all so screwed that there isn't any unscrewing that can be done. What has been seen cannot be unseen.

David · Post by **David** » Wed May 23, 2012 9:49 pm

blebs wrote:We can tell others what we see and how it will play out. They chose not to believe it, even when it's proven to them. It's a shame, but that's the way it is. Ultimately, we are all so screwed that there isn't any unscrewing that can be done. What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Blebs,

Did you happen to notice that neither I nor Jawz particularly like our current president? What I have been hearing from you mnosteele and my mother in law are fox news talking points. You are right we are screwed. Do you think that the Republicans (aside from the slightly misguided Ron Paul) have the answers? They don't! They serve Mammon and hIs corporate string pullers the same or maybe worse than the Democrats. These rants do grow tiresome after a while and it is a shame.

These days I have grown particularly disgust with the news media, from both sides. Bold half truth statements as titles with nothing substantive to follow.

I am sorry if I seem to be pointing you out.... It is not meant to be that.

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Thu May 24, 2012 12:09 am

mnosteele52 wrote:Because it's BS, it's funded and backed by Soros as nothing but a ploy. It's all been planned for a long time, it's not some peaceful protest and they are targeting the wrong people, it needs to be Occupy Pennsylvania Ave., but you can't protest who is paying you.

How are they the wrong people when they are the ones that brought down our economy?

I'm going to show you a factual graph. If you are interested in the story behind the graph, I will tell it.

Wall Street gets paid to do math, and they couldn't even do that right. Why do we want to place so much value in *******s that can't do math?

mnosteele52 · Post by **mnosteele52** » Thu May 24, 2012 8:30 am

Please explain the story behind the graph.

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Thu May 24, 2012 8:30 am

David wrote:Blebs,

Did you happen to notice that neither I nor Jawz particularly like our current president? What I have been hearing from you mnosteele and my mother in law are fox news talking points. You are right we are screwed. Do you think that the Republicans (aside from the slightly misguided Ron Paul) have the answers? They don't! They serve Mammon and hIs corporate string pullers the same or maybe worse than the Democrats. These rants do grow tiresome after a while and it is a shame.

These days I have grown particularly disgust with the news media, from both sides. Bold half truth statements as titles with nothing substantive to follow.

I am sorry if I seem to be pointing you out.... It is not meant to be that.

David I take no offense to your post.

Fact of the matter is, political parties don't mean a thing anymore. We have Wall st, The Fed and the Government in bed together. Until we pry them apart, since they are like locked, mating dogs, fighting over reps or dems is just silly. We have people with more money than they'll ever need, telling these 3 entities what to do. It's all smoke and mirrors.

Being overly wealthy isn't a sin by itself, but to use that wealth to the detriment of your fellow man, then we have a problem.

David · Post by **David** » Thu May 24, 2012 9:31 am

blebs wrote:David I take no offense to your post.

Fact of the matter is, political parties don't mean a thing anymore. We have Wall st, The Fed and the Government in bed together. Until we pry them apart, since they are like locked, mating dogs, fighting over reps or dems is just silly. We have people with more money than they'll ever need, telling these 3 entities what to do. It's all smoke and mirrors.

Being overly wealthy isn't a sin by itself, but to use that wealth to the detriment of your fellow man, then we have a problem.

Amazing when we focus on commonality.

We have a corporatocracy. While Wall St. and the Banks play games with money, it is the corporates who have put the yoke on the workers. The food industry operates it's own nation within ours. The gas industry is ruining wells from Ohio through the northeast. The coffers they have permit them to flaunt protection laws and interests.

Being wealthy is not a crime, it is interesting what money can buy.

JawZ · Post by **JawZ** » Thu May 24, 2012 1:54 pm

mnosteele52 wrote:Please explain the story behind the graph.

this graph came from a TED presentation but you won't see it as TED removed it because they felt it was too partisan. Imagine that...the truth being partisan. The info came from government sources. I love TED but this is a black mark in my eyes. Since TED removed it, it has caused a huge stir online. The presenter has since put the entire presentation online and other news outlets are posting all the graphs for public consumption. Again, why do we allow the truth to remain hidden? Who cares who it hurts!

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Thu May 24, 2012 4:17 pm

David I loved this line from that link:

One view of social critics is that the corporate influence in the United States is "so strong" that it can "render ineffective any president" who fails to advocate for the corporate agenda.[1]

David · Post by **David** » Thu May 24, 2012 4:50 pm

blebs wrote:David I loved this line from that link:

Which is why we are here.

Be well my friend,
david

David · Post by **David** » Thu May 24, 2012 4:56 pm

Also worth noting from the link:

Economist Jeffrey D. Sachs described America as a corporatocracy in his 2011 book The Price of Civilization.[24] He suggested that it arose from four trends (1) weak national parties and strong political representation of individual districts (2) the large U.S. military establishment after World War II (3) big corporate money financing election campaigns (4) globalization tilting the balance away from workers.

... the lobbies dominate policy-making at the expense of the nation and contrary to the expressed opinions of the American people
—Economist Jeffrey Sachs in 2011[4]

The globalization has been one of my drums. Our labor force cannot compete with slave labor and indentured servitude.