Could this be my computer ??

Stooge · Post by **Stooge** » Sun Mar 25, 2001 5:30 pm

Ok i have a 500mhz AMD. With 213 Mb RAM. And a Voodoo 3 2000 PCI. I play Unreal Tournament.

Now my question is that when i first bought my Video card i was getting good frames from 50 to 60. Now i cant even get frames past 20. My frames are like 16 now. I tried all differen't tweaks and nothing works. Can this be my computer ? im running Win98.

CoolJ · Post by **CoolJ** » Sun Mar 25, 2001 7:03 pm

You said you use to get 50 now you get like 20. Is this with the same game?

If its with newer games its probably because new games are getting hardcore

and want more resources.

Stooge · Post by **Stooge** » Sun Mar 25, 2001 7:08 pm

No its with the same game. The video card is only 1 year old. I just cant get how i can loose all those frames just like that.
Its weird.

Game0rz · Post by **Game0rz** » Sun Mar 25, 2001 7:33 pm

are you playing on different resolutions?

Stooge · Post by **Stooge** » Sun Mar 25, 2001 10:48 pm

Nope same resolutions. Any thoughts ?

Game0rz · Post by **Game0rz** » Sun Mar 25, 2001 11:43 pm

are you still playing under glide?
do you have the correct drivers installed?
have you messed w/ any other hardware that could of caused conflict?
do you have an IRQ conflict?
how much of your system resources are you using?

Stooge · Post by **Stooge** » Mon Mar 26, 2001 1:11 am

Yes i got all the updated Drivers and everything else. I am not having any trouble with my computer at all.
And yes im still playing in Glide.
Any other suggestions ?

[ 03-26-2001: Message edited by: Stooge ]

bug · Post by **bug** » Mon Mar 26, 2001 9:29 am

uninstall the game and reinstall it
then get back to us with fps testing results

CoolJ · Post by **CoolJ** » Mon Mar 26, 2001 2:49 pm

Originally posted by SpeedMan:
get a new card kthnx

Are you gonna buy him a new card? It should be performing like it use to. If its under warranty then i agree and grab another card.

[ 03-26-2001: Message edited by: CoolJ ]

nightowl · Post by **nightowl** » Mon Mar 26, 2001 4:29 pm

its probably all the programs running in the background.....go start/run and type msconfig.exe and disable some of the stuff

Stooge · Post by **Stooge** » Mon Mar 26, 2001 5:30 pm

I reinstalled the game and same FPS.. I also disabled all my Backround programs and it still has the same FPS.
There has to be something i can do.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Mon Mar 26, 2001 8:58 pm

First thing that jumped out at me....213mb of RAM. That's an odd number. Could be a typo, but if your computer is really telling you it has 213mb of RAM...I'd start digging.

Yes some of the mobos out there suck up a meg or more of system RAM to substitute for basic onboard video, I see those i810 chipset that have a 64 megs stick report 63 megs. But I can't come up with a number that works out right for 213. RAM is just about always some mutliple of 8. To have that much RAM, you'd probably have some combination of 64 and 32 meg sticks, probably less sticks of a higher count.

So I'm thinking faulty RAM somewhere? I've even seen a virus that hosed your RAM count.

Gandalf · Post by **Gandalf** » Tue Mar 27, 2001 12:44 am

get a new card kthnx

Stooge · Post by **Stooge** » Tue Mar 27, 2001 1:18 am

no lol.. I have 192 Mb Ram. But i downloaded that Dr. Solmans program that increases your RAM. So it increased mine to 213, But i actualy have 192.

The problem wouldn't be from the program because it started way before i got that program. So its not that infecting it.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Tue Mar 27, 2001 9:14 am

How does it increase your ram?? LIke overclock it??

BrianR · Post by **BrianR** » Tue Mar 27, 2001 10:39 am

It's possible that the newer video drivers are slower. Try going back to the older drivers. See what happens with your FR. (all else being the same, I would dump whatever RAM program Solomons sold you. No one I know has recommended it and they are a frugal lot).

8D · Post by 8D » Tue Mar 27, 2001 10:48 am

i am a UT addict...been playin since the demo

ok anyways...have u recently downloaded any mods, what patch are u running, do u play on servers with CSHP(cheat protection). connetion?

8D

Stooge · Post by **Stooge** » Tue Mar 27, 2001 3:59 pm

heh ok i tried going back to the old drivers and its still the same frames. This is driving me nuts. And i did dump that program but samething.

GRIM · Post by **GRIM** » Tue Mar 27, 2001 10:31 pm

What game or games are you playing?
If QIII what version? cause if you upgraded to 1.27 especially 1.27H you will take a great hit in the fps department thats why most peeps stay with 1.17 just a thought

Stooge · Post by **Stooge** » Wed Mar 28, 2001 4:46 am

I only play Unreal Tournament.

8D · Post by 8D » Wed Mar 28, 2001 7:58 am

are u running CSHP man...that is a big problem for everyone desiring frames

scootyhOoo

Stooge · Post by **Stooge** » Wed Mar 28, 2001 3:58 pm

Well ya you gotta download CSHP to play on the server.

But this problem was happening before CSHP came out.

mstevensga · Post by **mstevensga** » Wed Mar 28, 2001 5:01 pm

OK, I noticed at the bottom of the first page that you are using a memory optimizer. there are a few things you need to know about how they work.

RAM optimizers work by fooling the system into thinking you have more Physical RAM then you really do. They do this by translating Virtual Space on your HD into a quasi-Physical address that can be used the same way your RAM is. The problem this creates is that BECAUSE it uses your HD, it is saturating the PC bus with dataflow and hogging the bandwidth your Video could otherwise be using.

My Advice: Ditch the Optimizer You have 192 MB of RAM and if you are running just a game, you don't need it. NO Game written for the PC and released on the general market, 3D or otherwize, uses that much RAM. Period. They wouldn't be able to sell it. Not enough users would be able to buy it because of that requirement.

In a nutshell, don't run ANYTHING that isn't DIRECTLY RELATED to making the game function. If you need the RAM boost for other applications, then run it for them. It kills your game. It may not be the sole culprit, but it is defintely a part of the problem. Also, if you have your Video massively O/C'd, then you could be dealing with a GPU that has been fried over the long course of constant heat exposure, unless your case is VERY well ventilated (ie extra cooling fans installed to circulate the air).

The best way to check it is borrows a friend's system and swap the video cards in it for a day... if you have the same cards it is even better. Note the new Frame Rates and then swap back.

One more thing.... if you O/C your video, you void the warranty. Period. Warranty only holds if you leave the settings at the manufacturer's factory default settings. So be ready for that.

[ 03-28-2001: Message edited by: EverQuestin` Man ]

8D · Post by 8D » Wed Mar 28, 2001 6:32 pm

k dood...just cause CSHP exists doesn't mean its on ALL servers...some ppl don't have it
so think b4 u talk dumbass

8D

Stooge · Post by **Stooge** » Thu Mar 29, 2001 3:46 pm

This problem started happening even before i used that memory Optimizer. So its not that that effecting my gamespy.

And 8D. Whats with the bad talk ? Most servers now Run CSHP. In the DOM servers theres not one server that has CSHP so i think you better think before you talk.
There is no reason at all you need to make these remarks. This forum is for people to ask questions and get help not people to talk ****..

Stooge

8D · Post by 8D » Thu Mar 29, 2001 4:10 pm

go check your server list agian man...there are many servers that don't run CSHP
sooo...stfu

8D

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Thu Mar 29, 2001 7:03 pm

8D. he ask a question. Why do you reply with a stupid remark like that ? Speedguide isin't a place to fight, When someone asks a question you don't reply with a stupid remark like you did on your other post. And i don't think Philip or brent or any of the Moderators would like those remarks. Its Simple. if someone asks a question you reply back and help them. If you don't know what the problem might be then don't post at all. Theres no reason to make remarks like that on this forum. Just thought you should know.

-Andrew

8D · Post by 8D » Fri Mar 30, 2001 12:04 am

..|..

8D

HalfLifer · Post by **HalfLifer** » Fri Mar 30, 2001 11:04 pm

durrr im speedman and like uh buy a new video card cuz im stupiud andi dnt know he dosnt wahnt to by a new one

hello · Post by **hello** » Fri Apr 06, 2001 5:30 am

has any real gamer ever heard of the "rate" command.
rate is the amount of data, when connected to a game server, will attempt to handle at a given packet size. Typical rate is 10000 for lan or high speed, but the default rate is 3500.

You might say "well smartass, rate will affect your ping then!" well, not entirely true. If you're on a high speed connection, then your ping will not change. Only your FPS will change, as with a higher rate setting, you will be able to actually recieve more data fluidly. If you were to try /rate 10000 on 56k, you will be lagging to high heaven due to the fact your modem can't handle that much data.

I would definitly suggest finding a command similar to this in UT, and experimenting.

Also, (though probably not relating to your fps problem)..in games such as quake, quake3, ect. there is a "max_fps" command which can be tinkered with, it is also generally set low as a default and should be worth looking into.

good luck to you.

[ 04-06-2001: Message edited by: bada$$ ]

Nusumu · Post by **Nusumu** » Sun Apr 08, 2001 11:52 pm

I'm not sure about why your fps has gotten lower just like that. Does it have anything to do with your start-up programs? If some of my start up programs aren't closed my comp lags a lot.

cablerat · Post by **cablerat** » Tue May 08, 2001 1:09 pm

wWell i use a voodoo 3-2000,had same problem.
simply added a cooling fan to it!everything workes fine now!!
cablerat.

Juggernaut · Post by **Juggernaut** » Tue May 08, 2001 10:53 pm

I had a similar problem to what u have with u'r FPS dropping that low. Did you start to use a firewall on u'r computer, namely Sygate? I switched from ZoneAlarm Pro to Sygate and my FPS went that low while playing online, but playing locally was fine. I uninstalled Sygate and it was fine again. Just a thought.

As to you 8D, and u'r inappropriate comments, it's pretty easy to put people down when they are asking a question. Here's something to think about, how many of us will readily help you now if u ever have a problem? You get what you put out.