Do I see Baghdaddy online????
Do I see Baghdaddy online????
Wow...it's been a while!! Are you still in the M.E.? Can you give us an update on this war from your personal viewpoint????
Sarahnn,
Thanks for all, i doubt you would really want to hear my honest oppinion here now.
I am dedicated to what we are doing here. Have there been some unseen incidents against the Coalition Forces, yes and i hate it. I hate it true to my heart.
I blame it on not regulating the troops in and out, the JarHeads no offense to all Marines here have the system down on rotating there Marines out. The other services that have men and women in direct harms way should look at ther example.
But i am not the Prez, i am standing by him still to this day 100%, and please i do not want to start a slam thread here. Under Sarahnn's name!
Honest to god's truth, it is the worst i have seen it here in three years. Do the Iraqi's blame the Coalition Forces?
Great question, only can be answered by them. Do i see they hate us never.
They want to be able to get out and shop, have marriages, dancing, relaxation; they can not go out and sleep ontop of there roofs to relieve the extreme heat here because of the threat from either insurgents or common thief's.
That will raise many questions i know.
It goes back to religion and never will i discuss religion. You get a few people that will do anything to influence the populace to go to there side, use the media to benifit it and it will happen.
Is things going to change here yes it will, will it happen over night never. It will take the young children to be our age now. God "Opps" let me choose a politically correct word, if the media would cover the children coming up to the Coalition Forces everyday giving thumbs up or saying Mister you are doing good. That might help ease and speed up things here.
Just like any new free country it takes time.
Do i hate somethings that has happened here, yes i do. Except i keep going and so do many others so that the freedom is achieved.
Example; the two young soldiers that went through hell while they was hostage. Yes i use hostage and will always use that here, as the insurgents do not abide by The Geneva Convention. There last few days for them was pure hell that nobody would understand and i will not understand. But did they stand fast and preserve the Code of Conduct to this day anybody that has spent time in the services will say yes. My heart and prayers go out to there families. Did something go wrong that day, the investigaitin will see. Will it bring them back no. Look up to the skies they were hero's they never gave up.
Now we have charges of rape and murder against soldiers did it happen i will not judge. Am i upset after hearing about it hell yes, and the proper charges will be brought down against them if it transpired.
Ok enough about this let me get to everyday situation here, what about the innocent killing of Iraqi's by the insurgents to drive there message to the media against the Coalition Forces and what we are doing here.
As most of you know i am divorced with son's. Well i got the word my oldest is taking after me. Does it hurt me yes, so much as i do not want him to live with what i am living with now from day to day.
He told me daddy it is an honor and everybody looks up to you, i said no son it is not about looking up or honor. It is about what you heart feels is right.
He asked me about if i regret anything i ever did, i immediately replied to him no son. Do i have nightmares yes and i will always have them.
He asked me if i hate pulling the trigger, i immediately replied yes i hate it everytime i had to or have to. And i told him let me take your place. He said no dad it is my duty.
Ok back on subject, yes it will get better.
PS...
BaghDaddy 1.2 on the way here.
Thanks for all, i doubt you would really want to hear my honest oppinion here now.
I am dedicated to what we are doing here. Have there been some unseen incidents against the Coalition Forces, yes and i hate it. I hate it true to my heart.
I blame it on not regulating the troops in and out, the JarHeads no offense to all Marines here have the system down on rotating there Marines out. The other services that have men and women in direct harms way should look at ther example.
But i am not the Prez, i am standing by him still to this day 100%, and please i do not want to start a slam thread here. Under Sarahnn's name!
Honest to god's truth, it is the worst i have seen it here in three years. Do the Iraqi's blame the Coalition Forces?
Great question, only can be answered by them. Do i see they hate us never.
They want to be able to get out and shop, have marriages, dancing, relaxation; they can not go out and sleep ontop of there roofs to relieve the extreme heat here because of the threat from either insurgents or common thief's.
That will raise many questions i know.
It goes back to religion and never will i discuss religion. You get a few people that will do anything to influence the populace to go to there side, use the media to benifit it and it will happen.
Is things going to change here yes it will, will it happen over night never. It will take the young children to be our age now. God "Opps" let me choose a politically correct word, if the media would cover the children coming up to the Coalition Forces everyday giving thumbs up or saying Mister you are doing good. That might help ease and speed up things here.
Just like any new free country it takes time.
Do i hate somethings that has happened here, yes i do. Except i keep going and so do many others so that the freedom is achieved.
Example; the two young soldiers that went through hell while they was hostage. Yes i use hostage and will always use that here, as the insurgents do not abide by The Geneva Convention. There last few days for them was pure hell that nobody would understand and i will not understand. But did they stand fast and preserve the Code of Conduct to this day anybody that has spent time in the services will say yes. My heart and prayers go out to there families. Did something go wrong that day, the investigaitin will see. Will it bring them back no. Look up to the skies they were hero's they never gave up.
Now we have charges of rape and murder against soldiers did it happen i will not judge. Am i upset after hearing about it hell yes, and the proper charges will be brought down against them if it transpired.
Ok enough about this let me get to everyday situation here, what about the innocent killing of Iraqi's by the insurgents to drive there message to the media against the Coalition Forces and what we are doing here.
As most of you know i am divorced with son's. Well i got the word my oldest is taking after me. Does it hurt me yes, so much as i do not want him to live with what i am living with now from day to day.
He told me daddy it is an honor and everybody looks up to you, i said no son it is not about looking up or honor. It is about what you heart feels is right.
He asked me about if i regret anything i ever did, i immediately replied to him no son. Do i have nightmares yes and i will always have them.
He asked me if i hate pulling the trigger, i immediately replied yes i hate it everytime i had to or have to. And i told him let me take your place. He said no dad it is my duty.
Ok back on subject, yes it will get better.
PS...
BaghDaddy 1.2 on the way here.
[quote="BaghDaddy"]Sarahnn,
Thanks for all, i doubt you would really want to hear my honest oppinion here now.
I am dedicated to what we are doing here. Have there been some unseen incidents against the Coalition Forces, yes and i hate it. I hate it true to my heart.
I blame it on not regulating the troops in and out, the JarHeads no offense to all Marines here have the system down on rotating there Marines out. The other services that have men and women in direct harms way should look at ther example.
But i am not the Prez, i am standing by him still to this day 100%, and please i do not want to start a slam thread here. Under Sarahnn's name!
Honest to god's truth, it is the worst i have seen it here in three years. Do the Iraqi's blame the Coalition Forces?
Great question, only can be answered by them. Do i see they hate us never.
They want to be able to get out and shop, have marriages, dancing, relaxation]
Hey, thanks!! I'm going to save this post of yours. It should not be lost to the ethernet. I may reprint it with your permission also.
Whatever you do, Baghdaddy, speak your heart and mind. It is through eyes like yours that the supporters of the coalition forces can see what is happening. That is very important. This is not a time to bury our heads in the sand.
One other question. You stand behind Bush 100% like a true soldier, but I hear you say you would do some things differently. Correct?
Thanks again..many blessings going out to you and your comrades.
Thanks for all, i doubt you would really want to hear my honest oppinion here now.
I am dedicated to what we are doing here. Have there been some unseen incidents against the Coalition Forces, yes and i hate it. I hate it true to my heart.
I blame it on not regulating the troops in and out, the JarHeads no offense to all Marines here have the system down on rotating there Marines out. The other services that have men and women in direct harms way should look at ther example.
But i am not the Prez, i am standing by him still to this day 100%, and please i do not want to start a slam thread here. Under Sarahnn's name!
Honest to god's truth, it is the worst i have seen it here in three years. Do the Iraqi's blame the Coalition Forces?
Great question, only can be answered by them. Do i see they hate us never.
They want to be able to get out and shop, have marriages, dancing, relaxation]
Hey, thanks!! I'm going to save this post of yours. It should not be lost to the ethernet. I may reprint it with your permission also.
Whatever you do, Baghdaddy, speak your heart and mind. It is through eyes like yours that the supporters of the coalition forces can see what is happening. That is very important. This is not a time to bury our heads in the sand.
One other question. You stand behind Bush 100% like a true soldier, but I hear you say you would do some things differently. Correct?
Thanks again..many blessings going out to you and your comrades.
Sarahnn,Sarahnn wrote:Hey, thanks!! I'm going to save this post of yours. It should not be lost to the ethernet. I may reprint it with your permission also.
Whatever you do, Baghdaddy, speak your heart and mind. It is through eyes like yours that the supporters of the coalition forces can see what is happening. That is very important. This is not a time to bury our heads in the sand.
One other question. You stand behind Bush 100% like a true soldier, but I hear you say you would do some things differently. Correct?
Thanks again..many blessings going out to you and your comrades.
Yes i do stand behind Bush 100%.
You ask what i would of done differently, well i would not of made the big push into Iraq as fast as he did bypassing know areas of intrest that would allow the insurgents to get a foot hold.
Was it impressive we made it to Baghdad that fast from North to South yes.
What did it cost us? Just my perspective it cost us certain areas that would now be calm and safe for all to live normal day to day life.
Can we change it no. What do we have to do to fix it, a great question. I am just only one person with an idea.
Nothing against the Iraqi's at all but the only know one lifestyle right now and that is the iron fist. Will that change yes it will over time.
My honest to god "oppss" sorry again, it is being influenced more then anybody knows from the North East bordering country as they are worried.
Sarahnn,
You have my permission to reprint it with all rights.
I was in country for 6 months before being replaced. So were the people I replaced, and so were the people who replaced me. I feel sorry for the other services who are there for a retarded amount of time.
Also, we went in putting a single bomb on each plane, they usually came back with it. When we left we had a much larger payload and they were coming back with nothing and an empty gun too.
Also, we went in putting a single bomb on each plane, they usually came back with it. When we left we had a much larger payload and they were coming back with nothing and an empty gun too.
Shaggy,Shaggy wrote:I was in country for 6 months before being replaced. So were the people I replaced, and so were the people who replaced me. I feel sorry for the other services who are there for a retarded amount of time.
Also, we went in putting a single bomb on each plane, they usually came back with it. When we left we had a much larger payload and they were coming back with nothing and an empty gun too.
Oh do i agree with you so much right now.
I hate to say this but war becomes addictive. And to much time here with the wrong person things will happen under this enviroment.
Now i know there will be so much contreversy over just what i stated, i do apoligize.
Ladies and Gentlemen everybody calls this a fight against terrorism, ok i can buy that half way. But honest to god it is a war; only if you could see the real day to day happenings here good and bad.
The Iraqi's crying with Coalition Forces for loosing good friends; the Iraqi's crying for loosing family members. Is death good no death is ever good. Now i will be asked why am i here then well i belive in a cause for freedom; which is not easy.
And no i do not mean that in a bad pretext.
Would i give my life for somebody who diead innocently that was in harms way, yes i would in a heartbeat. Can i change that no, i could use the old common word of casualties of war.
Ladies and Gentlemen;
Is the Coalition Forces the root of the problem or is the insurgents the root of the problem, each fighting for its cause.
What everybody has to realize freedom has it's price; you know what i wish SpeedGuide had was an instant translation system from Arabic to English.
So that everybody could read what each and every Iraqi felt, yes there will be bad and there will be good. But i promise you there would be more good then bad for the Coalition Forces.
Even in secure areas Baghdadette is threatened; she takes it with a grain of salt and moves on sometimes she makes a comment and the person making the comment or threat realizes she is right.
The area we are in has been ruled by an Iron Fist for nearly 50 years, and they only know that. Were they safe yes, did they have freedom yes to there eyes they did. Were they able to watch western movies no, unless they was approved by the the Iron Fist or his sons.
Did they have car's no. Only the immediate Gov't had cars and select few common people. Now there is such an influx of cars and people that do not understand common courtesy driving rules.
I will stop now Baghdaddy 1.2 is moving and needs to eat.
De Oppresso Liber
First of all, Welcome Back.
Secondly, people are going to disagree on the politics behind the war. That's a given. Having said that, I do not think you should let it keep you from posting.
I will tell you that I for one am glad you are back and hope you stay. I find your perspective MUCH more valuable and truthful than that from either side of the political aisle, because you are telling us the truth (as you see it) without filtering or polishing or spinning for or against some politician. You're there. You see it on a daily basis. And I trust your view way more than that of ANY talking head.
Third, I want to ask you a question. First a bit of a background:
I was sitting in the C terminal bar in Charlotte a couple days ago on my way home. I forget the name of the place, but they have good crab ball snacks and it's down near gate C15 or so. Up limps this guy, obviously a soldier, who grabs the bar chair next to me. We start chatting, and I buy him a beer. He's a green beanie (Green Beret) on his way home from Landstuhl (Medical Center) after getting dinged up a bit near Ramadi (shrapnel from a grenade). The guy has purple hearts like most of us have loose change in our pockets and has been all over Iraq as part of an Alpha Team. He wants to go back, though they may not let him.
Anyways, according to him there are now basically three types of Iraqis (not including the Kurds in Mosul). Everyone under the age of 14 or so are kids, and love us. And our wrap around shades. Every one above the age of 40 just wants change and doesn't really care how or who. And everone from 15-40 hates us and sees us as invaders. That's not "liberal media" telling me that. That's a Special Forces guy with 20 years and the scars to prove it who spends a lot of time in and around the Iraqis on a daily basis (when he's not in a hospital).
So, I'm kind of curious, if you care to share, do your impressions jibe with his?
Also, are you in or near the Green Zone? If so, I have a person specific question I'd like to ask you (I'll ask it in a PM).
Regards,
-Bouncer-
Secondly, people are going to disagree on the politics behind the war. That's a given. Having said that, I do not think you should let it keep you from posting.
I will tell you that I for one am glad you are back and hope you stay. I find your perspective MUCH more valuable and truthful than that from either side of the political aisle, because you are telling us the truth (as you see it) without filtering or polishing or spinning for or against some politician. You're there. You see it on a daily basis. And I trust your view way more than that of ANY talking head.
Third, I want to ask you a question. First a bit of a background:
I was sitting in the C terminal bar in Charlotte a couple days ago on my way home. I forget the name of the place, but they have good crab ball snacks and it's down near gate C15 or so. Up limps this guy, obviously a soldier, who grabs the bar chair next to me. We start chatting, and I buy him a beer. He's a green beanie (Green Beret) on his way home from Landstuhl (Medical Center) after getting dinged up a bit near Ramadi (shrapnel from a grenade). The guy has purple hearts like most of us have loose change in our pockets and has been all over Iraq as part of an Alpha Team. He wants to go back, though they may not let him.
Anyways, according to him there are now basically three types of Iraqis (not including the Kurds in Mosul). Everyone under the age of 14 or so are kids, and love us. And our wrap around shades. Every one above the age of 40 just wants change and doesn't really care how or who. And everone from 15-40 hates us and sees us as invaders. That's not "liberal media" telling me that. That's a Special Forces guy with 20 years and the scars to prove it who spends a lot of time in and around the Iraqis on a daily basis (when he's not in a hospital).
So, I'm kind of curious, if you care to share, do your impressions jibe with his?
Also, are you in or near the Green Zone? If so, I have a person specific question I'd like to ask you (I'll ask it in a PM).
Regards,
-Bouncer-
Albeit I do not share your perspective Baghdaddy, it pleases me to hear it. By all means keep bringing in your viewpoint from the war.
As a note I have several patients in and from the Afghan and Iraqi theatres. The experiences they shared were rather amazing.
As a note I have several patients in and from the Afghan and Iraqi theatres. The experiences they shared were rather amazing.
Hell_Yes
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Bouncer,Bouncer wrote:First of all, Welcome Back.
Secondly, people are going to disagree on the politics behind the war. That's a given. Having said that, I do not think you should let it keep you from posting.
I will tell you that I for one am glad you are back and hope you stay. I find your perspective MUCH more valuable and truthful than that from either side of the political aisle, because you are telling us the truth (as you see it) without filtering or polishing or spinning for or against some politician. You're there. You see it on a daily basis. And I trust your view way more than that of ANY talking head.
Third, I want to ask you a question. First a bit of a background:
I was sitting in the C terminal bar in Charlotte a couple days ago on my way home. I forget the name of the place, but they have good crab ball snacks and it's down near gate C15 or so. Up limps this guy, obviously a soldier, who grabs the bar chair next to me. We start chatting, and I buy him a beer. He's a green beanie (Green Beret) on his way home from Landstuhl (Medical Center) after getting dinged up a bit near Ramadi (shrapnel from a grenade). The guy has purple hearts like most of us have loose change in our pockets and has been all over Iraq as part of an Alpha Team. He wants to go back, though they may not let him.
Anyways, according to him there are now basically three types of Iraqis (not including the Kurds in Mosul). Everyone under the age of 14 or so are kids, and love us. And our wrap around shades. Every one above the age of 40 just wants change and doesn't really care how or who. And everone from 15-40 hates us and sees us as invaders. That's not "liberal media" telling me that. That's a Special Forces guy with 20 years and the scars to prove it who spends a lot of time in and around the Iraqis on a daily basis (when he's not in a hospital).
So, I'm kind of curious, if you care to share, do your impressions jibe with his?
Also, are you in or near the Green Zone? If so, I have a person specific question I'd like to ask you (I'll ask it in a PM).
Regards,
-Bouncer-
It has been a while since we last spoke, to answer your questions.
I have had a few beers in that airport flying out to other places,
if i would of been there we would of been coining you so we would not of had to pay for the beers 
just kidding as i know how you are and you tried to pay for his beers. I probally know who you had a great conversation with, and what he said is exactlly correct about all areas of Iraq and the age groups.
The Kurdish controlled area's are so different then others cities here in Iraq;
When you enter Kurdish controlled area's there is still a threat but it is more relaxed and calmer in those area's, most of the time you do not have to worry about carrying your long gun or side arm while you are there.
For your second question PM me the info and i will track down your buddy here.
JCOS
How you doing buddy? bet your harrem and camel population has increased drastically
. It is going to be the hottest summer yet over here, temp's are already peeking what it usually does in August. Stay safe with your harrem buddy
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