Going to be fighting/Point Sparring on Sunday!

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 1:32 am

Wish us luck! The whole family is signed up for Forms and Sparring on the 8th (Sunday) ... I'll post pics!! maybe a video too!

Anyone ever point spar? Any tips or suggestions? TIA

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 1:47 am

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Wish us luck! The whole family is signed up for Forms and Sparring on the 8th (Sunday) ... I'll post pics!! maybe a video too!

Anyone ever point spar? Any tips or suggestions? TIA

Don't hold back

Set · Post by **Set** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 1:53 am

Dont be angery and Know you will do your very best

GL

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 1:57 am

Originally posted by jeremyboycool
Don't hold back

Unfortunatly I have to... I can make contact but no punches to the face or kicks to the head....yet...

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 2:02 am

Originally posted by Set
Dont be angery and Know you will do your very best

GL

My adrenilian pumps hard when I spar... no matter who it is. I look at every situation like it's my life/health on the line. So in a sence I do my very best all the time

... Good advice bro

This will be my first tournement and in three weeks I will be trying out for my Orange Belt.

I was also asked to be an instructor for lower ranks but I really don't think that I'm going to do it because I got too many responcibilities at home at the present time. Maybe in the future though

I was stoked when my sinse pulled my out of class and said " The Master wanted to know if you would like to attent the masters clinic and teach some classes" Man I was stunned.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 2:08 am

Originally posted by John
I am impressed with your level of commitment and achievement, John. Keep it up, have a good time, and congratulations!

Thank you sir. When something is fun it's very easy to obtain a commitment

cho · Post by **cho** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 2:23 am

Which martial art form are you studying?

I don't know to much about anyone one in particular so I don't know if point sparring is unique to one type.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 2:30 am

Originally posted by *cho*
Which martial art form are you studying?

I don't know to much about anyone one in particular so I don't know if point sparring is unique to one type.

I am studying Jui-Jitsu/Akido/Judo, mostly Karate (Kata) though.
Best thing I have done formyself... lost 33lbs so far and self confidence is rising on as daily event. No so much that I am studying a Martial Art but more so for my mental welfare.

cho · Post by **cho** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 2:40 am

Cool

Thanks for the info.

I keep looking into learning a form of Kung Fu or Kenpo but I just don't have the time to fully commit and I don't want to join unless I can commit.

Best of Luck this sunday, and remember to post a pic of the trophy.

The Goog · Post by **The Goog** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 2:42 am

That or some nice injury to show off...hmmm...maybe that's not such a good idea...

therealcableguy · Post by **therealcableguy** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 4:39 am

Watch and Learn.Seems obvious but people tend to get caught up in the excitement.You'll find that the basics are what wins.Backfists,reverse punches to the body,and lead leg kicks to the body are the big point getters.Stick to the basics and watch the Black Belt division.Watch their techiques and what they use to score.Good luck.

minir · Post by **minir** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 6:08 am

Hi EvilAngel

Good Luck to You & the Family John

Keep Your Chin Tucked In & Have Fun

regards

minir

chimdogger · Post by **chimdogger** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:06 am

Point sparring is all about speed. Reverse punch to the body is easiest way to score. Forget the legs unless using them to keep your oppenent back away from you. Backknuckel reverse punch is by far the most basic but effective combo you can do. Good luck and bring home the trophy.

Chim

RoundEye · Post by **RoundEye** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 8:15 am

I used to spar with a friend of mine that was a semi-pro kick boxer. I quit after a while because I got tired of getting my ass kicked, all I was, was a moving punching bag for him.

That little SOB was so fast that he could punch me twice and then kick me before I knew what was happening. That and the fact we were on top of a flat roof in the summer, damn it used to get really f'ing hot when we were sparring!

mountainman · Post by **mountainman** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 9:23 am

That is awesome EA !

I took karate for awhile when I was younger, but quit right before taking my exam for the orange belt. I had the routine down and everything.

I was never able to spar though. Are you doing this at a Y or at a privately owned dojo ? Just curious. Mine was at the Y, which was probably why I couldn't spar.

My dad had studied karate for years and had his brown belt. I saw him spar many times at his classes and WOW... that was awesome to see your own dad kick some ass.

Anyway.. good luck to you and your family and remember to stay alert.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 4:34 pm

Originally posted by *cho*
Cool

Thanks for the info.

I keep looking into learning a form of Kung Fu or Kenpo but I just don't have the time to fully commit and I don't want to join unless I can commit.

Best of Luck this sunday, and remember to post a pic of the trophy.

I guess any form is good. I like Jui-Jitsu cause it shows how to take peoples limbs and torture themselves with their own body parts...lol

Thanks for the well wishes man.

btw, nice to meet ya.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 4:34 pm

Originally posted by minir
Hi EvilAngel

Good Luck to You & the Family John

Keep Your Chin Tucked In & Have Fun

regards

minir

THank you Larry!

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 4:41 pm

Originally posted by therealcableguy
Watch and Learn.Seems obvious but people tend to get caught up in the excitement.You'll find that the basics are what wins.Backfists,reverse punches to the body,and lead leg kicks to the body are the big point getters.Stick to the basics and watch the Black Belt division.Watch their techiques and what they use to score.Good luck.

I have been working on all those tips you've given me.... My best point maker is my side blade kick to the chest or floating ribs and my backward knuckle punch to the side of the head with a real quick thrust punch following immediatly after .

I have learned so far, not to wait for the opponent to strike first... attack when there is a shot. I have won the last 10 bouts in the studio...3-0 undefeted... I also sparred the higher ranks (Blue-Purple-Orange) which I feel I learn alot more alot quicker as well.

I sparred a guy wednday night that while free sparring he was throwing out this hellofa mean hook kick.... damn it was sweet! He about knocked my head gear off about 2 times with that kick...lol

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 5:03 pm

Always remember it is "self defense" not 'self offense'.

Defend yourself at all cost, and the opponent won't make any points. You will see openings, take them, and make the points.

Don't think about what you have to do, just do it.

Stay away from fancy moves and high kicks, they can slow you down, and put you off balance. Short snappy strikes are better

Use trickery as well. Fool your opponent into leaving openings.

Sounds like you're doing very well EA, congrats.

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Fri Jun 06, 2003 11:24 pm

Kick behind and take numbers!!

Good luck, EA! We're pulling for you and the family.

P.S.....are you sure it's a good idea for Kitten to learn the fine art of kicking your butt? LOL

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sat Jun 07, 2003 3:23 pm

Chimm, great advice. Thanks

Roundeye, I use to be the punching bag for my older brothers...lol... When we were children we'd kick box everyone all the time just for fun. oh, the good ol days..

Mountianman, My dad was a black belt back in the day too. My mom made it to brown as well and it was some good ol ass kicking sparring tournements. My dad was very quick.

Norm, your right again. I know the best offence is a good defence. I'm getting really nervious...lol.. that'll keep me on edge for sure!
As I was sparring the last coupole of days I noticed just that, I don't think, I just do it.
My sinse told me friday that he believes I will come home with first place in the sparring and the forms have something left to be desired. It's all good ya only live once so I figured what the hell.

DHD, physical aspect of relationships are tame in comparioson to the built in hardwired emotional erraticism of females.....lol j/k

Thankls for the well wishes guys I am really nervious today, butterflys in the stomach and feel weak....lol

mountainman · Post by **mountainman** » Sat Jun 07, 2003 3:43 pm

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Mountianman, My dad was a black belt back in the day too. My mom made it to brown as well and it was some good ol ass kicking sparring tournements. My dad was very quick.

Did you ever get to watch either of them spar or compete ?

I just remember watching him and thinking how COOL it was. There aren't a lot of times when you get to see your hero kick someone's tail around. LOL

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sat Jun 07, 2003 7:51 pm

Originally posted by mountainman
Did you ever get to watch either of them spar or compete ?

I just remember watching him and thinking how COOL it was. There aren't a lot of times when you get to see your hero kick someone's tail around. LOL

Yeah, my dad was my idol at that time in my life. I bragged all the time about how badass he was.

My mom was badass too. The studio we went to (when I was in second grade) use to spar alot.

Some pics at the studio

before practice

mountainman · Post by **mountainman** » Sat Jun 07, 2003 11:03 pm

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Yeah, my dad was my idol at that time in my life. I bragged all the time about how badass he was.

My mom was badass too. The studio we went to (when I was in second grade) use to spar alot.

That is exactly how I felt at the time. My dad actually did most of his studying before I was born from age 18-23, but when I was about 10 or so, he went back into it with myself and my brother. That is when we saw him.

It rocked.

Your kid is really cute too, BTW.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sat Jun 07, 2003 11:55 pm

Originally posted by mountainman

Your kid is really cute too, BTW.

Thank you!

He really brings me unconditional love. Something very refreshing!

mountainman · Post by **mountainman** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 12:16 am

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Thank you!

He really brings me unconditional love. Something very refreshing!

Laura is talking about the future now. It may be as soon as next year when we start to "make a baby". For now, we'll just stick to practice for the "big game".

Congrats.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 1:09 am

Originally posted by mountainman

Laura is talking about the future now. It may be as soon as next year when we start to "make a baby". For now, we'll just stick to practice for the "big game".

Congrats.

Well have fun practicing... I know I always do

Good luck when the time comes!

cho · Post by **cho** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 1:23 am

Originally posted by EvilAngel
btw, nice to meet ya.

Nice to meet you as well.

I guess you getting all rested up since it is probably Sunday Morning for ya right now.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 2:10 am

Originally posted by *cho*
Nice to meet you as well.

I guess you getting all rested up since it is probably Sunday Morning for ya right now.

I have been too excited for the past couple daysI can't even sleep!... I'll end up tapping into my adrenalin reserve tomorow. 6 AM is NOT my time of the day...lol

btw, it's 11pm here now and reveiwing Pinion # 1 a couple times

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 12:40 pm

I won 2 of 3 bouts... if I would have won the third bout I would have at least placed... next time

Now I know what to work on.

Kitten and our boy lost the first bouts so they couldnt continue.
Youngest daughter won 1st place in sparring!

All in all it was one of the best events I have ever been too.

The Black belt sparring was nothing less than amazing and the weapons was psycho!!!

Here's the little brut!

Here she is with her sinse and trophy!

terrancelam · Post by **terrancelam** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 1:16 pm

Sounds like you had a lot of fun

Glad to hear it!

Next time your in a bout, here is something to remember:

Watch for the telegraphed movements. Shoulder movement and reflex movement.

The one thing as a Martial Artist I realize is that you have to expand your horizons to be good. Some Karate students are very linear in their movements, so if you side step the, they are usually open for a blow to the liver or even the face (if allowed).

Here is a trick for when they do hoove kicks at your head:

Block as if your carrying a box with two hands on your shoulder. If the kick gets passed the first arm, you'll need quick reflexes. Either way, you'll need to grab the kicking leg and kick the other one from underneath him.

It works in practise, but you need a bit of speed on your side.

Anyways congrats on your bout and on your daughters! Hope you had fun!

colour · Post by **colour** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:26 pm

Originally posted by EvilAngel
I am studying Jui-Jitsu/Akido/Judo, mostly Karate (Kata) though.
Best thing I have done formyself... lost 33lbs so far and self confidence is rising on as daily event. No so much that I am studying a Martial Art but more so for my mental welfare.

someone at your dojo is blowing smoke up your ass or seriously doesnt know what theyre talking about to tell you that youre learning all 3.

Judo, Aikido, and even Karate are all derivatives of Ju-Jitsu. unless its Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. which i seriously doubt as 99% of BJJ guys mock traditional stylest. believe me on this one.

Judo is the direct sport form of Ju-Jitsu.

also

Ju-Jitsu, Jiu-Jitsu, and Ju-Jutsu are all accetable ways of spelling it, the most phonetically correct would be Ju-Jutsu. Jiu-Jitsu is the Brazilian way while Ju-Jitsu tends to be the American way.

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:50 pm

Originally posted by colour
someone at your dojo is blowing smoke up your ass or seriously doesnt know what theyre talking about to tell you that youre learning all 3.

Judo, Aikido, and even Karate are all derivatives of Ju-Jitsu. unless its Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. which i seriously doubt as 99% of BJJ guys mock traditional stylest. believe me on this one.

Judo is the direct sport form of Ju-Jitsu.

also

Ju-Jitsu, Jiu-Jitsu, and Ju-Jutsu are all accetable ways of spelling it, the most phonetically correct would be Ju-Jutsu. Jiu-Jitsu is the Brazilian way while Ju-Jitsu tends to be the American way.

LOL...ok.....

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:25 pm

Congrads, John.

Sounds like the whole family had a lot of fun!

EvilAngel · Post by **EvilAngel** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 9:26 pm

Originally posted by downhill
Congrads, John.

Sounds like the whole family had a lot of fun!

Yep, it was a blast.

I've never seen so many badasses in one room at the same time.....lol

We'll be going to the next tournament in Irvine in Dec. and concidering the tournament in Oct in Las Vegas.

If not to participate at least spectate.

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 9:35 pm

Excellent John!!

I like a guy who takes the advice he asks for.

You are doing very good with this martial arts thing, keep up the good work. The side benifits are starting to show now too, as you mentioned re: confidence, and weight loss.

Winning matches is not why you joined, remember that

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 9:36 pm

congrats!

just saw this post now since norm pointed me to it

you said you lsot 33lbs, which martial arts is the best to help losing weight?

Norm · Post by **Norm** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 9:43 pm

Originally posted by Ghosthunter
which martial arts is the best to help losing weight?

It doesn't matter. You're going to sweat so much in any martial arts class that it won't matter which style you take.

oh, the pain lol

therealcableguy · Post by **therealcableguy** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 9:47 pm

Congrats!! Hope you picked up on some things to help you out next time.

cho · Post by **cho** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 2:04 am

Sounds like it was a pretty successful afternoon.

Congrats.

So is there room on your mantel place for her trophy or do you have to build her a case?

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