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After much reading and research it has become apparent that the origin ledgend is just that. It seems to be a myth created to bring some understanding to the unknown aspect of the "luck" involved in a good OC. Both sides do have strong points. One favours wishfull thinking. The other is based more on ideals. The deciding factor than becomes the interpretation we choose. What both have in common is a total lacking of hard facts. Where is the data, the scientific findings, and the controlled environment these studies are conducted in? There are'nt any. In fact there is no 100% either way.
We are than left with a superstition which puts vendors in a vantage point to profit from if they so choose. Or a quaint justification to explain why chip "A" did'nt OC as well as chip "B". This is the conclusion I have chosen to come to over this debate.
I have reinstated my order and will get whatever OC the chip will yeild completely oblivious of its origin. Though previously guilty, I refuse to allow myself to get caught up in all the hype of the origin ledgend any further.
This is nothing more than my oppinion. So take it for what you will.
I don't think I could find the sites I used to haunt back in the early Celery days...but there were sites which did have huge amounts of processors tested from Malaysia and Costa Rica. They kept charts of which "weeks of manufacture" and which "bins" OC'd the best...and charts so you could tell by the tracking number on the chip which week it was made, by which plant. Some websites would post a new article every month so if you were out shopping, you could make sure you picked which ones yielded the highest overclocking. PCNut.com was selecting many of these chips.
This isn't a myth, this was back when I was hardcore in overclocking and building gaming rigs with the Celery/Abit BH-6 combo's....I was really hardcore into it. The Celery 300 - 500 mHz days.
Luck? Yeah, that's a bit of it too, there's a lot of variables..RAM, power supply, mobo, what else is in your computer, etc.
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Originally posted by YeOldeStonecat I don't think I could find the sites I used to haunt back in the early Celery days...but there were sites which did have huge amounts of processors tested from Malaysia and Costa Rica. They kept charts of which "weeks of manufacture" and which "bins" OC'd the best...and charts so you could tell by the tracking number on the chip which week it was made, by which plant. Some websites would post a new article every month so if you were out shopping, you could make sure you picked which ones yielded the highest overclocking. PCNut.com was selecting many of these chips.
This isn't a myth, this was back when I was hardcore in overclocking and building gaming rigs with the Celery/Abit BH-6 combo's....I was really hardcore into it. The Celery 300 - 500 mHz days.
Luck? Yeah, that's a bit of it too, there's a lot of variables..RAM, power supply, mobo, what else is in your computer, etc.
It's feasable but I don't think it's for real. Also remember that the databases you're talking about are made of user posts --- which are sometimes inflated.
Sites like the ones you're reffering to sound fantastic. They attempted to generate facts and statistics. Aside from OC databases, (where alot of people are using Ln2) I found only speculation on various forums and articles. There are alot of variables as you said. As for what is involved in growing waffers and the whole fab process...Well that's a bit complex. What I'm saying is I'll role the dice and take what I get without being biased by the chips origin. Besides it all starts to make my head hurt...lol
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Originally posted by Amro It's feasable but I don't think it's for real. Also remember that the databases you're talking about are made of user posts --- which are sometimes inflated.
The hardware review sites themselves.
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a batch of CPUS can be better than another just like u can make cookies on 2 trays and 1 tray could be softer, everyone wants the nice soft cookies, well everyone wants the CPUs off that nice batch too.
The auto industry is notorious for this as well. Where was your car made? How does it fare against the same auto made in another country or location?
I don't believe it is a myth at all...it's just that it has never been proven with hard data.
I watched a show once about Kit-Kat bars and how they go to the extreme to make sure that a Kit-Kat made in one country with a certain climate and altitude winds up tasting exactly like a Ki-Kat made in a different locale. It was very interesting.
The key to remember here is that different parts, manufacturing processes, etc can lead to the same stock performance standard. What you get above and beyond that is very subjective.
I do believe that all chip manufacturing is perform in clean rooms. There should be some uniformity in the packing.
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