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Crap, external drive is hosed

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I have a 500GB Maxtor external USB drive.

Was able to view the folders this morning but not access them, getting corrupt data run CHKDSK message.

Ran CHKDSK while I was gone today, came back and got an error when XP boots "System Volume Info\Mount Point Manager Remote Database Corrupt or Unreadable"

My 500 GB drive shows up just fine but now has only 4MB of stuff on it and none of the original contents...all of my music and photography from the past 5 years :(

Any ideas? I haven't deleted anything from the disk manually and am hoping the data is still there but have no idea how to possible recover it.
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chkdsk /r ?

googling now lol
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Seeing lots of software out there but most are expensive. Am trying a demo version of Easeus right now.

Crap. The music I could eventually find a bit of again but there was 12 years worth of live shows I collected and 3 cameras worth of shots that are dust. arrgghh.

Some of it I backed up but it's hard to backup the backup :D

thanks Pete.

The error is what's getting me, makes me think the stuff is there but it just can't see it.
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Do a error checking on the drive.. select to fix sectors and repair whatever.. it may take all night but it might save it.
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Sava700 wrote:Do a error checking on the drive.. select to fix sectors and repair whatever.. it may take all night but it might save it.
Hey Sava :thumb:

As a last resort I will but that's what I ran to completion today while I was up at DePlano's. Came home after a few hours and it said complete. Rebooted and it's all gone :(
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Good reviews for Recuva so trying that now: http://www.piriform.com/recuva

Should know in about 12 hours :rolleyes:
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Most drive repair tools do not work well on external drives in enclosures. They do work best if the drive has been removed from the enclosure, and connected directly to a drive interface of your computers motherboard...IE PATA or SATA.

That would be my first step. Yank the drive, and slave it in your rig.

//naturally in doing this you usually void any warranty on the drive.

Recuva is for fetching deleted files, not for getting data from hosed partitions.
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YeOldeStonecat wrote:Most drive repair tools do not work well on external drives in enclosures. They do work best if the drive has been removed from the enclosure, and connected directly to a drive interface of your computers motherboard...IE PATA or SATA.

That would be my first step. Yank the drive, and slave it in your rig.

//naturally in doing this you usually void any warranty on the drive.

Recuva is for fetching deleted files, not for getting data from hosed partitions.
So how would one go about slaving a USB drive? Am more worried about the data than I am the warranty.

I have an Asus P4P800, it does have a SATA connector, not sure what PATA is. Is there any software you would recommend Scat? Any idea about that error message?

What does work for getting data from hosed partitions?

Help :D :cry:
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Any point in using Ubuntu for any of this?
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Dunno what model you have...be it a standard 3.5" drive inside, or a 2.5" laptop hard drive inside.

SATA is the newer drive connection type, PATA is the older IDE type interface...that used the ribbon cable.

When I say slave the drive, I mean crack open that USB drive enclosure..and pull the hard drive itself out of the enclosure. It's probably a SATA drive inside of there..with some interface on it to connect to the USB, you should be able to remove the drive itself so that you can get to the SATA connectors and connect it to another SATA controller on your motherboard, as well as a SATA power cable.

If it's an older PATA drive, just pull your CD-ROMs ribbon cable and use that temporarily.

I'd try Windows tools first. Actually, your BIOS first...as you should see the drive during POST or setup when you first power on. Then, once into Windows...look in drive manager....to see if Windows will at least see a disk. Then see if Windows will see any partitions..if so, if it can read any. If it can't read or prompts to format, don't. But a checkdisk with repair is worth a try. If not, can turn to 3rd party, like booting from UBCD and trying the disk utility NTFS4DOS....has a very good check disk tool. Paragon Software also has a free Drive Rescue kit.
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YeOldeStonecat wrote:Dunno what model you have...be it a standard 3.5" drive inside, or a 2.5" laptop hard drive inside.

SATA is the newer drive connection type, PATA is the older IDE type interface...that used the ribbon cable.

When I say slave the drive, I mean crack open that USB drive enclosure..and pull the hard drive itself out of the enclosure. It's probably a SATA drive inside of there..with some interface on it to connect to the USB, you should be able to remove the drive itself so that you can get to the SATA connectors and connect it to another SATA controller on your motherboard, as well as a SATA power cable.

If it's an older PATA drive, just pull your CD-ROMs ribbon cable and use that temporarily.

I'd try Windows tools first. Actually, your BIOS first...as you should see the drive during POST or setup when you first power on. Then, once into Windows...look in drive manager....to see if Windows will at least see a disk. Then see if Windows will see any partitions..if so, if it can read any. If it can't read or prompts to format, don't. But a checkdisk with repair is worth a try. If not, can turn to 3rd party, like booting from UBCD and trying the disk utility NTFS4DOS....has a very good check disk tool. Paragon Software also has a free Drive Rescue kit.
Thanks for the replies :)

Recuva is running now, but you're experience is that it won't find anything?
And that there are no software methods that will help without cracking it open?

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I had a 80 GB EIDE internal drive that I had installed into a USB external case . I was using it to back up pictures and small vids of my daughter. Some reason it the partition went bad, and all of my daughters pics and vids with it.

I used "Test Disk" http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk, and was able to retrieve everything, right from the USB drive. You run this from within Windows. It may work for you. :)
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Shinobi wrote:I had a 80 GB EIDE internal drive that I had installed into a USB external case . I was using it to back up pictures and small vids of my daughter. Some reason it the partition went bad, and all of my daughters pics and vids with it.

I used "Test Disk" http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk, and was able to retrieve everything, right from the USB drive. You run this from within Windows. It may work for you. :)
Looking at it now before I crack the external drive, thanks
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GetDataBack for NTFS and GetDataBack for FAT have worked very well for me in the past.
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Faust wrote:GetDataBack for NTFS and GetDataBack for FAT have worked very well for me in the past.
Got it.

Thanks for all the help everyone, I appreciate it.
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Humboldt wrote:Got it.

Thanks for all the help everyone, I appreciate it.
Did testdisk do the trick for you?
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24giovanni wrote:Did testdisk do the trick for you?
It would've I think :thumb:

Took 4 hours to run last night and I was able to see files and start copying files off the USB external to my regular hard drive. Not nearly enough room for that though so I canceled it and started another chkdsk (which is what screwed the pooch in the first place so I was hesitant).

Worked fine, it was all there this morning :)
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So you got everything back then?
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Humboldt wrote:It would've I think :thumb:

Took 4 hours to run last night and I was able to see files and start copying files off the USB external to my regular hard drive. Not nearly enough room for that though so I canceled it and started another chkdsk (which is what screwed the pooch in the first place so I was hesitant).

Worked fine, it was all there this morning :)
Drive may still be getting ready to tank... back up everything as soon as possible.
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Sava700 wrote:Drive may still be getting ready to tank... back up everything as soon as possible.
:nod: Thanks for the reminder.

Already pricing 2 TB externals. To be safe it seems that one needs a pair of backup drives so there's always a safe copy. Can you RAID externals?
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CableDude wrote:So you got everything back then?
:thumb:
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Can you RAID externals?
short answer is yes. depends on connectivity (hardware raid), or OS (software raid).
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Humboldt wrote: :thumb:
Good to hear. :thumb:
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Faust wrote:short answer is yes. depends on connectivity (hardware raid), or OS (software raid).
Will look into it, thanks Faust.
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CableDude wrote:Good to hear. :thumb:
No doubt, I was very relieved.
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