help!. it has arrived

ssimanjuntak · Post by **ssimanjuntak** » Wed Oct 09, 2002 2:14 pm

Yoo everyone im backk. My Gainward GeForce4 Ti4200 128 mb

has been delivered to me. i cant believe the shipping is so fast.. newegg is really trustable site, thanks for advices guys. that card look awsome. Now pls help me with the installation..what should i do first? any old<TNT2> software i need to uninstall?? i really dont know much about this, so please tell me in details and in easy words ...thanks

Docsta · Post by **Docsta** » Wed Oct 09, 2002 2:34 pm

w00t...good job dude

LT-73 · Post by **LT-73** » Wed Oct 09, 2002 2:37 pm

Uninstall evrything pertaining to the TNT, then go to device manager and uninstall the TNT card. Turn off pc and remove the card. Install the GF4 and boot up. Go into bios and make sure these settings are enabled:

4x mode
Agp-128
fast write

Then boot up. Install the drivers and you're good to go.

ssimanjuntak · Post by **ssimanjuntak** » Wed Oct 09, 2002 3:17 pm

Ok, hmmm for the driver. should i install the one from the Gainward Driver installation CD or nvidia site??

LT-73 · Post by **LT-73** » Wed Oct 09, 2002 3:19 pm

Go to the nvidia site. You really don't need all that extra bundled crap that comes with the cd.

ssimanjuntak · Post by **ssimanjuntak** » Wed Oct 09, 2002 3:24 pm

alrigth..thanks

ssimanjuntak · Post by **ssimanjuntak** » Fri Oct 11, 2002 8:54 pm

wow thanks LT-73.. GeForce4 Ti4200 128 mb ownss, and it get along great with detonator 40.72 <for windows ME>. Question: is there any value in detonator 40.72 that needs to be changed, so i can get the best performance out of that Gf4

LT-73 · Post by **LT-73** » Fri Oct 11, 2002 10:20 pm

Kewl beans! That gainward card rocks!

Hmm, lemme see if i can find ya a tweak site

Check these out:

http://www.nvnews.net/tweaks/tweaks.shtml#graphics

http://www.techspot.com/guides-hardware.shtml

http://hwfaq.overclockersonline.com/dbase.php?catid=19

Take a peek, tweak and have fun

ssimanjuntak · Post by **ssimanjuntak** » Sat Oct 12, 2002 3:13 am

thanks

ill check it out

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Sat Oct 12, 2002 3:21 am

Uninstall the vid software in safemode..that way your old card is using windows drivers..you get a cleaner uninstall that way.

LT-73 · Post by **LT-73** » Sat Oct 12, 2002 3:51 am

Originally posted by ssimanjuntak
thanks ill check it out

Anytime

ssimanjuntak · Post by **ssimanjuntak** » Sat Oct 12, 2002 11:16 pm

LT-73 i have this weird problem

, it just started earlier this afternoon . first when i got onto server<counter-strike> the screen goes blur, then it gradually comes back to normal, but there are alot of square in blue and yellow everywhere. in ct spawn some part of the wall turn blue. another thing i notice is that my fps never goes up to 99 anymore, it stays around 50-60. it wasnt like that the first 3 days. i use detonator 40.72 for windows ME. i havent done any tweakin..anyway i happend to find someone who has a similar problem with his new Gainward on another forum, but his color is pink..do you have any idea why? i tought Gainward own

ssimanjuntak · Post by **ssimanjuntak** » Sat Oct 12, 2002 11:37 pm

here is how it looks

ssimanjuntak · Post by **ssimanjuntak** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 2:24 am

im sorry, i think the pics never show up..so here are the links
http://www.geocities.com/spargoezing/de_dust20116.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/spargoezing/de_dust20119.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/spargoezing/de_dust20122.JPG

dont click on those link. you need to right click and copy shorcut, then paste in your browser address

LT-73 · Post by **LT-73** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 2:38 am

Originally posted by ssimanjuntak
im sorry, i think the pics never show up..so here are the links
http://www.geocities.com/spargoezing/de_dust20116.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/spargoezing/de_dust20119.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/spargoezing/de_dust20122.JPG

dont click on those link. you need to right click and copy shorcut, then paste in your browser address

Hmmm, could be the drivers. lemme check something out for ya. you're using win ME right?

Unistall those drivers. They're not for Win ME. Use these instead:
http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=win9x_30.82

The 40.72's are for 2k and XP not ME

ssimanjuntak · Post by **ssimanjuntak** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 6:25 am

hmm i believe there is two of detonator 40.72. one is for XP/2002 and the other s for 95/ 98/ ME..there is three columns on the download drivers page, what i did was i select Graphic drivers in the first column, then detonator 40 in second column, and there are two options in the third column "Windows XP/ 2000 and windows 95/98/ ME " i select the second one LT-73. so i did choose the right one for ME..tell me one more time that your sure that what im using now is for XP/2k

loop2kil · Post by **loop2kil** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 4:46 pm

Originally Posted by LT-73

Um.........ok, ok, i won't say it

I won't either

LT-73 · Post by **LT-73** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 6:12 pm

I dunno, but those drivers and your os are having a conflict. If i was you, i'd switch 'em and see. It won't hurt to find out.

Hey Loops

ssimanjuntak · Post by **ssimanjuntak** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 8:00 pm

LT-73 i cant believe this crap, its fuked up. i replaced the detonator 40.72 with 30.82_win9x last night, it went great. but Today i think I have encountered the dreded pink screen..when i turned on the computer, on the bios screen there are alot of horizontal lines, and what comes up after my dell welcome is like a cheesboard of red/pink color, it just freeze that i have to press ctr+alt+delt to restart, its supposed to be welcome to window where i have to enter my username and password. i have to go in safe mode to be able to go to dekstop. ive uninstalled the driver and installed it back for many times but the problem still exists. Now im back using my old TNT2 video card, everything goes fine, i can log on to internet, here i am writing a post reply. is this what i get from $178 worth of GAINWARD GeForce4 Ti4200 128mb?? that sux.. i know someone who have the same problem as me a month later after he bought it..what should i do now LT-73?

btw i bought it from newegg

LT-73 · Post by **LT-73** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 8:39 pm

Dam! Sorry about you goin thru that. You tried evrything including switching drivers. My suggestion is to RMA it. Maybe your board does'nt like the Gainward even tho it's a great card. First time i ever encountered that kind of problem with a Gainward.

Send it back to newegg and get a different brand card. I've got a Visiontek, but newegg does'nt carry it anymore.

Check this one :http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp ... 150-03.JPG

VGA LEADTEK|GF4 TI4200BK 128M VIVO OEM
Specifications:
Features VIVO (video in/video out) and 128MB RAM
Chipset: Nvidia 4th-generation 256-bit GeForce4 Ti 4200 GPU InfiniteFX II Engine
RAM:128MB fast DDR Memory
8 GB/sec Memory Bandwidth
4.4 Billion AA samples per second fill rate
Integrated 350MHz RAMDAC, resolution up to 2048x1536, True Color @ 60Hz
Comprehensive AGP 4X support Software Winfast A250. Model#: A250LE VIVO OEM -OEM Special Free FedEx Saver Shipping
- Product Link - Chipset Info -See It! (image count 3 ) -Price Alert (N82E16814122150)
$172.00

It'll be ok bro. I understand what you're goin thru. If there's anyone here that's had major problems with parts, it's me. 90% of my parts met the sledgehammer.These guyz call it "goin LT-73" lol. Ask anyone here, they can all vouch on that!

ssimanjuntak · Post by **ssimanjuntak** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 1:18 am

goin LT-73! lol.. yea i think ill get the leadtek one, its not that my board doesnt like the Gainward, it is just the Gainward GeF4 Ti4200 sux, i think they sould call in a recall for it. Many people around the world have the same problem with it, they returnd it and get another of it but still they got the same problem, also there is someone who wasted about $60 just for the cost of shipping it back, he's got like 4 replacement of the same card and all of them are defective lol. my problem is known "pink screen of death". if you have time just scan this forum http://discuss.madonion.com/forum/showf ... er=973234.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=5144
i found out that a lot of them replaced their Gainward with leadtek, just like you suggest bro

it looks tight!!
Question: 1 if i ram the Gainward and ask for leadtek wouldnt i get charged restocking fee of 15%?? (im new to newegg) i hope they give me some bucks back since leadtek is cheaper

and 2. are the following two cards better than the one you suggest?
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduct.a ... 147&depa=1
VGA LEADTEK Geforce4 TI4200 128M / VIVO (video in / video out) AGP Video Card Retail BoxSpecif+ A250 LE TD-MyVIVO
$169
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduct.a ... 150&depa=1
VGA LEADTEK|GF4 TI4200BK 128M VIVO OEMSpecifications: Features VIVO (video in/video out)+ A250LE VIVO OEM
$169
3.what happend to your Gainward?
thanks bro

LT-73 · Post by **LT-73** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 10:08 am

lol, Ok here we go:

Answers to questions
#1- You might get a restocking fee, i dunno. Call them first and ask.
#2- They're both the same card with a 2 dollar difference.
#3 My Gainward GF3 Ti200 is now in the hands of bastid. He bought it along with some other stuff. He's really happy with it!

That's messed up about the Gainward GF4 Ti4200 series. I must have missed that thread @ madonion.

Go with the Leadtek and lemme know what happends.

ssimanjuntak · Post by **ssimanjuntak** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 4:50 pm

lol ok LT-73 thanx for the straight answer to my ?..and i was wondering if this Ti4400 is worth the extra cash. its a beast. it doesnt have VIVO but hmm i really dont care about that as long as it has Tv-out. about the length i think it will fit in my dell dekstop.
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduct.a ... 134&depa=1
Specifications:
Chipset: Nvidia Geforce4 Ti-4400
Memory: 128MB DDR
8.8 GB/sec Memory Bandwidth
125 million vertices/sec Peak Vertex Processing Rate
1.12 trillion operations/sec
Default clock speed 275/550 Mhz core/memory Max Res: up to 2048x1536
Ports: DB-15 VGA+ Svideo Out + DVI
Retail box (comes with 2 Full Version Retail Games, Winfast DVD, Cult3D,
Colorific,3Deep True Internet Color and cables
Winfast A250 TD 3 Years manufacture Warranty. Model#: A250-TD GOOD
REVIEW EDITOR CHOICE Special Free FedEx Saver Shipping
Detail Specs - Product Link - Chipset Info -See It! (image count 6 ) -Price
Alert (N82E16814122134)

== intel 815 mhz,256 RAM.. ASAP thanks

LT-73 · Post by **LT-73** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 5:10 pm

Not bad. for $20 more you get a liitle more clock and ram speed. I say go for it !

ssimanjuntak · Post by **ssimanjuntak** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 5:19 pm

would that be fine with my intel pentium 815 mhz? oyeah great news is i just called newegg they said i wouldnt get restockin fee, coz its defective video card

LT-73 · Post by **LT-73** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 5:33 pm

Originally posted by ssimanjuntak
would that be fine with my intel pentium 815 mhz? oyeah great news is i just called newegg they said i wouldnt get restockin fee, coz its defective video card

Hey , kewl beans!

yeah, the card will run fine. You have more than 500Mhz and plenty of ram. I suggest tho you change that os to win 2k or xp. ME has issues.

ssimanjuntak · Post by **ssimanjuntak** » Thu Oct 17, 2002 4:34 pm

Yoo LT-73!! wadupp.. my Leadtek Gf4 Ti4400 has arrived! daangg man that cards huge! looks powerful..anyway, you told me to enable this 3 things in bios :4x mode, Agp 128, and fast write..eehm i dont really know how to go there, like what key should i press?

could you tell me how? My OS is ME..and if theres other things should be set please tell me..Thanks bro

aagiants · Post by **aagiants** » Thu Oct 17, 2002 5:36 pm

Ur lucky u ordered from newegg..

They pay for return shipping, and wont bitch aobut a returned product.

LT-73 · Post by **LT-73** » Thu Oct 17, 2002 5:52 pm

Originally posted by ssimanjuntak
Yoo LT-73!! wadupp.. my Leadtek Gf4 Ti4400 has arrived! daangg man that cards huge! looks powerful..anyway, you told me to enable this 3 things in bios :4x mode, Agp 128, and fast write..eehm i dont really know how to go there, like what key should i press?
could you tell me how? My OS is ME..and if theres other things should be set please tell me..Thanks bro

Yeah baby !!! Go into bios and look for something that says "agp" There you should see all the settings for the vid card.

Good luck dood! Now lets see some benchies !

ssimanjuntak · Post by **ssimanjuntak** » Thu Oct 17, 2002 6:34 pm

lol you didnt really read my question..do ya LT-73? i dont know how to go there!

ssimanjuntak · Post by **ssimanjuntak** » Thu Oct 17, 2002 7:15 pm

halo!

ssimanjuntak · Post by **ssimanjuntak** » Fri Oct 18, 2002 2:36 pm

Yo! LT-73! i finally figured out how to go into there

but you know what! in the video configuration i only find 1, AGP Aperture Size:32/64 MB <no 128 mb>,2. Primary Video Adapter:AGP/PCI, 3. AG Hardware detected AGP speed unknown. now i dont think i get preety good performance yo. on leadtek official website, they provide update for BIOS, hmmm i guess my BIOSs kindda old man, id like to download it but i dont really know how to do update for BIOS. what should i do?