Sorry,another newbie: able to share internet access but no go on network neighborhood

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Rock_Lobster

Sorry,another newbie: able to share internet access but no go on network neighborhood

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Well, suprisingly I was able to set up part of my LAN.(usually I have worse luck). I have a 2 PC LAN, each computer has Win98, I'm using a Lynksys 4-port router, 3Com cable modem, @Home ISP. I was able to get each PC to share intenet access no problem. At one point, I was able to see an icon of my other computer on the network but when I clicked on it, it was empty. My question is, how can I share file/printer resorces safely between the two PC's without the "outside world" sharing with me. I have tried setting up different combos in Network Neighborhood. I thought I could use TCP/IP for internet and Netbeui for the sharing but I'm confused. Should I use "file & print sharing for Microsoft Networks" ? What is the difference between just enabling sharing on "Client for Microsoft Networks".

This is what I tried on BOTH computers:

Client for MS Networks- file & print enabled

Lynksys Ehternet:
-properties> bindings: NetBeui, TCP/IP
-file & print- enabled

NetBeui:
-properties> file & print for MS networks

TCP/IP:
-properties>bindings: client for MS networks
-file & print sharing enabled

File & Print sahring for MS networks:
-File & Print enabled

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I thought that I should disable file & print sharing on TCP/IP but when I do that it disables the Client for MS Networks??? Any suggestions/ settings would be appreciated.

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* Router is set up as a DHCP server
* Each PC has a NIC card
* Uisng cat5 cabling
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Post by Matt615 »

OK the first question is do you have anything shared on either of the two computers??? If not then you have to go into the properties of the drive you would like to share and then click on sharing and then click on share.

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Let me know if that helped.

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Coooool. It worked. (I also set a password for the directory) However, this is after I allowed file & print sharing for everything in network configuration. How can I make sure that know one on the internet will also have access to my files? I thought that NetBeui is good because it's not a "routable protocol", I set that to share files. I then tried to disble print/file sharing for TCP/IP and the "File & Print Sharing" for MS networks" disappeared. I then lost visibility to each computer on the LAN.
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Post by glc1 »

Originally posted by Rock_Lobster:
Coooool. It worked. (I also set a password for the directory) However, this is after I allowed file & print sharing for everything in network configuration. How can I make sure that know one on the internet will also have access to my files? I thought that NetBeui is good because it's not a "routable protocol", I set that to share files. I then tried to disble print/file sharing for TCP/IP and the "File & Print Sharing" for MS networks" disappeared. I then lost visibility to each computer on the LAN.
Use NetBEUI as the LAN protocol. To do this, bind File/Printer Sharing and Client for MS Networks ONLY to NetBEUI.
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Thanks. I'm getting closer. I guess I still don't fully understand binding and file/print sharing.....Is binding what counts? In another words, I've disabled file/print bindings on evertyhing except NetBeui but when I restarted PC & selected network, it said "your network isn't complete, do you want to continue". When I take away client for MS networks & file/print from TCP/IP, print/file sharing gets "greyed" out on everything???

Does the Ehternet card need to be binded to both TCP/IP & Net Beui?

I need a little babysitting. This is what I have in my configuration:

Primary network logon: Client for MS Networks

Linksys Adapter: should I enable or disable file/ print, what should bindings be?

NetBEUI: bindings> file/print, MS networks

TCP: bindings> none

File & Print Sharing for Microsoft Networks: "I want to share files"

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Do I need "File & Print Sharing for Microsoft Networks" or can I just enable it through the fle and print sharing tab. I'm trying to explain myself as I see it, it's kinda confusing.

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Post by glc1 »

TCP/IP must be installed if the computer needs 'net access.
File and Printer Sharing AND Clinet for MS Networks MUST be installed and bound to the LAN protocol, which is NetBEUI in your case. Do NOT bind File and Printer Sharing and Client for MS Networks to TCP/IP. Just bind them to NetBEUI.
BTW, what OSes are you running?
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Post by Matt615 »

the way you have it should work. File and printer sharing needs to be enabled and yes binding is what counts. As long as file and printer sharing and the other ones like client for Ms Networks is not bound to TCP/IP then you are good to go. The ethernet card needs to be bound to TCP/IP and netbeui. :D :D
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Matt615 and glc1, I'm golden. It worked !!!! Got visibity to both and should be "secure". I have Zone Alarm running on each computer. That should beef up securuiy a little bit.

glc1, I'm running Win98 on both computer "A" and computer "B". I have 2 hard drives on each PC. I am thinking about dual booting & loading Win 2K server on "A" and Win 2 K proffesional on computer "B". My boss bought me a copy of each as a bonus. I wan to practic esome networking. I might even triple boot and throw Linux on one but that's in the future. I'm gonna take baby steps.

The only other thing I considered was putting a 2nd Ethernet card in computer "A" to have all traffic go through the one PC, I think that will "hide" computer "B"...But I think that would mean that computer "A" would always have to be on for the other PC to access internet... Lots of stuff to learn


Thanks for your help.
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Post by Matt615 »

That is true if you have everything going through one computer than that computer would have to be on for the other computer to access the internet. If you already have a router than I would stick with that.

Good Luck!!
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