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Qwijib0 · Post by **Qwijib0** » Wed May 07, 2003 12:38 am

I am totally serious here. Ads piss me off, and annoying ones even moreso. Frankly, I never click on them. Let's make this a win-win situation. Let me give a donation, and you remove the ads for paying members. Everybody's happy then. Well, I'm happy anyway.

Anyone else think the way I do, or am I alone and about to be ridiculed and banned

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Wed May 07, 2003 12:40 am

Originally posted by Qwijib0
I am totally serious here. Ads piss me off, and annoying ones even moreso. Frankly, I never click on them. Let's make this a win-win situation. Let me give a donation, and you remove the ads for paying members. Everybody's happy then. Well, I'm happy anyway.

Anyone else think the way I do, or am I alone and about to be ridiculed and banned

No ridiculing allowed....

Banning is another matter...

Qwijib0 · Post by **Qwijib0** » Wed May 07, 2003 12:48 am

Originally posted by downhill

Banning is another matter...

zooner · Post by **zooner** » Wed May 07, 2003 4:57 am

this was brought up in the feedback and suggestions forums a couple of times.

phillip said he was considering it.

mountainman · Post by **mountainman** » Wed May 07, 2003 6:19 am

I like the ads... KEEP IT FREE !!!

Prey521 · Post by **Prey521** » Wed May 07, 2003 9:08 am

How would you go about ads not showing up for specific users? I personally do not mind the ads and I never get any popups since I use Ad Muncher.

kmax · Post by **kmax** » Wed May 07, 2003 9:51 am

Originally posted by mountainman
I like the ads... KEEP IT FREE !!!

yeah, as much as i would like to contribute to sg...we need to know how much they would need from us to make it work...

Qwijib0 · Post by **Qwijib0** » Wed May 07, 2003 1:23 pm

Originally posted by mountainman
I like the ads... KEEP IT FREE !!!

Free for you + ads
Cheap for me - ads

We both win-- see how this works?

mountainman · Post by **mountainman** » Wed May 07, 2003 2:34 pm

Originally posted by Qwijib0
Free for you + ads
Cheap for me - ads

We both win-- see how this works?

I guess the word "cheap" is relative.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Wed May 07, 2003 2:40 pm

as long as they dont use pop ups or the ones that take over the whole screen then I dont care about ads

Randy · Post by **Randy** » Wed May 07, 2003 2:53 pm

how much revenue do thease adds bring in phillip?

BaLa · Post by **BaLa** » Wed May 07, 2003 3:17 pm

I personally wouldn't mind paying a bit of money for an adfree speedguide either

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Wed May 07, 2003 3:21 pm

Honestly though, what's the problem with the ads?

The simple banner gif takes a few k out of your MASSIVE INTERNET CONNECTION, and is completely unobtrusive. Giant flash ads that take up the whole screen and make noise are obviously a completely different matter, but SG really hasn't had a problem with those.

I'm just somewhat missing why people have a problem with ads COMPLETELY, and not just those who abuse them.

Randy · Post by **Randy** » Wed May 07, 2003 3:35 pm

Originally posted by BIGJIMSLATE
Honestly though, what's the problem with the ads?

The simple banner gif takes a few k out of your MASSIVE INTERNET CONNECTION, and is completely unobtrusive. Giant flash ads that take up the whole screen and make noise are obviously a completely different matter, but SG really hasn't had a problem with those.

I'm just somewhat missing why people have a problem with ads COMPLETELY, and not just those who abuse them.

i dont mind the crucial adds. since the new sg layout i did notice that when you hover over forums links at the top of the page the links appear behind the add and i have to refresh to properly navigate.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Wed May 07, 2003 3:38 pm

i like the idea i'm bad with the ads too. if theres nothing i want its hard for me to go exploring.

Qwijib0 · Post by **Qwijib0** » Sat May 10, 2003 2:52 am

Originally posted by BIGJIMSLATE
Honestly though, what's the problem with the ads?

The simple banner gif takes a few k out of your MASSIVE INTERNET CONNECTION, and is completely unobtrusive. Giant flash ads that take up the whole screen and make noise are obviously a completely different matter, but SG really hasn't had a problem with those.

I'm just somewhat missing why people have a problem with ads COMPLETELY, and not just those who abuse them.

I work on a SLOW computer at work. every bit of graphics that can be eliminated would be nice. I'd like to dump the nav bar too, but I'll start with the most likely to be removed in a paid SG. A custom interface that I could trim to the bare essentials would be the ultimate solution, but ya gotta start somewhere.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat May 10, 2003 3:59 am

Originally posted by BIGJIMSLATE
Honestly though, what's the problem with the ads?

The simple banner gif takes a few k out of your MASSIVE INTERNET CONNECTION, and is completely unobtrusive. Giant flash ads that take up the whole screen and make noise are obviously a completely different matter, but SG really hasn't had a problem with those.

I'm just somewhat missing why people have a problem with ads COMPLETELY, and not just those who abuse them.

some ads do take up teh screen, adn some expand, and cover the menu. it can be annoying, if there was an adfree choice i'd pay for it. dont care about the bandwith.

CableDude · Post by **CableDude** » Sat May 10, 2003 10:47 am

Originally posted by Qwijib0
I work on a SLOW computer at work.

Specs?

ScottE · Post by **ScottE** » Sat May 10, 2003 1:01 pm

The problem with creating an ad free version of speedguide is that it can already be done fairly easily for free. So, what incentive is there for anyone to want to pay for something when it can be done legally and for free, with a simple hostsfile, other than perhaps some loyalty to the site? The only way it would ever work if it was bundled in some sort of package say for $10 a month you got an @speedguide.net email address 10or so Megs of Webspace, no adds, and perhaps a few more perks. Even still what is the point of no adds with this deal? Phillip would have to be a complete idiot to throw that into the deal. He'd be throwing away a source of income. All in all I think that an ad free version of speedguide is a waste of time and not a very smart business decision.

Qwijib0 · Post by **Qwijib0** » Sat May 10, 2003 1:30 pm

Originally posted by CableDude
Specs?

Macintosh G3 233Mhz, 128MB Ram

(Original iMac)

brembo · Post by **brembo** » Sat May 10, 2003 1:41 pm

I'd pay a monthly fee for a @speedguide email and a few megs of storage, for pics and vids and such. Really, the @speedguide email would be great, I'd cough up some dough JUST for that. Ya listening Philip?

Brandon_k_W · Post by **Brandon_k_W** » Sat May 10, 2003 2:22 pm

Norton Personal Firewall 2003 does a perfect job at getting rid of both the banners and pop-ups

plus, you get the extra firewall protection, of course.

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Sat May 10, 2003 2:48 pm

Originally posted by BIGJIMSLATE
Honestly though, what's the problem with the ads?

The simple banner gif takes a few k out of your MASSIVE INTERNET CONNECTION, and is completely unobtrusive. Giant flash ads that take up the whole screen and make noise are obviously a completely different matter, but SG really hasn't had a problem with those.

I'm just somewhat missing why people have a problem with ads COMPLETELY, and not just those who abuse them.

Because some of the ad banners across the top cover up the menus sometimes which is very annoying. Id gladly pay a small fee.
https://www.speedguide.net/forums/ ... did=114425

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Sat May 10, 2003 10:30 pm

Originally posted by Rainbow
Because some of the ad banners across the top cover up the menus sometimes which is very annoying. Id gladly pay a small fee.[/url]

I understand that, and that's definately a bug (usually refreshing the page will show a different ad and will let it work). I was referring more to people's aversion towards ads as a whole, even if they are all that's supporting a site that they go to.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat May 10, 2003 10:33 pm

Originally posted by BIGJIMSLATE
I understand that, and that's definately a bug (usually refreshing the page will show a different ad and will let it work). I was referring more to people's aversion towards ads as a whole, even if they are all that's supporting a site that they go to.

but were saying were willing to pay for it. provided its not like 1 grand a month lol

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Sat May 10, 2003 10:35 pm

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
but were saying were willing to pay for it. provided its not like 1 grand a month lol

I have no problem with paying a fee. In fact, I still wonder why almost as many people have a problem with a fee-supported site as they do with an ad-supported one.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat May 10, 2003 10:51 pm

Originally posted by BIGJIMSLATE
I have no problem with paying a fee. In fact, I still wonder why almost as many people have a problem with a fee-supported site as they do with an ad-supported one.

i have a problem with a free as teh main revenue cuz u gotta join and pay the fee to see what its like.

Qwijib0 · Post by **Qwijib0** » Sat May 10, 2003 11:44 pm

Originally posted by Brandon_k_W
Norton Personal Firewall 2003 does a perfect job at getting rid of both the banners and pop-ups plus, you get the extra firewall protection, of course.

MAC

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat May 10, 2003 11:52 pm

Originally posted by Qwijib0
MAC

norton makes a MAC version

Qwijib0 · Post by **Qwijib0** » Sun May 11, 2003 12:14 am

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
norton makes a MAC version

That I can install on a work computer with software restrictions?

Qwijib0 · Post by **Qwijib0** » Sun May 11, 2003 12:15 am

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
norton makes a MAC version

Specifications

Current Version: 2003

Platforms: Windows®
XP Home/XP Pro/2000 Pro/Me/98

Post by **Philip** » Sun May 11, 2003 12:09 pm

Qwijib0, very good point, we're actually in the planning stages of implementing something similar. Ultimately, we'd offer an optional small picture hosting space (web based, no other file types) + ad free site + more complete security scan for another paid level of membership. It might take some time to implement since development is not trivial (payment processing, security, etc.).

There are some technical problems with allowing SG email addresses, such as spam relaying that might make it impossible at this time.

Either way, it's going to be a while before any of those are implemented, and the current level of service is always going to be free, for those that might be concerned

Just for the record: Ad blockers reduce site revenue... Most of the sites out there are ad-supported, and they would not exist without ads (bandwidth/hosting/servers cost money - message: ads are crucial to site survival).

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Sun May 11, 2003 12:18 pm

Originally posted by Philip

Just for the record: Ad blockers reduce site revenue... Most of the sites out there are ad-supported, and they would not exist without ads (bandwidth/hosting/servers cost money - message: ads are crucial to site survival).

Very Subliminal Philip

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sun May 11, 2003 12:19 pm

woohoo!

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