anybody know the legal limit on knives?

[Hitman]

Originally posted by SRF01



Christmas was 4 days ago? (*confused*)
How long have I been at work? lol

[IronMan]

Originally posted by Biketec
i know somebody with a missle launcher hanging in his room

Who has a missle launcher?

[RoundEye]

Originally posted by IronMan



Who has a missle launcher?

I was just about to ask the same thing. I don't know why, but I would like to have one also. I guess just for the visual impact of the thing hanging on my wall. Maybe on the gun rack in the back of a pick up truck, then I would be Rambo the Redneck

[Biketec]

Originally posted by IronMan



Who has a missle launcher?

cant say... he could get in big trouble

[TonyT]

Am I the only one that found this highly comical?

No, I think it's amazingly funny that this question needs to be asked in the first place! Geez. You want to carry a knife, then carry a knife!

Legalities have little to do with it anyway. If a cop stops you in suburbia and you are a decent person and not a wise-ass backtalker to the cop, he'll let you go home, knife in pocket. But if you are a wise-ass nag to the cop, he's gonna take your knife, no matter what size it is!

Urban areas are a bit different. It is generally thoughtt upon by cops that most will be concealing some sort of weapon and that it is their duty to part said weapon from citizen. But if you follow the law, as EA pointed out, even urban cops will cut you some slack.

I work in both urban & suburban areas in the DC Metro area. I don't need a knife. I have a hammer that will work just fine in self-defense. Or a screwdriver, utility knife, sledge, crowbar, tire iron, or any other darn thing I can grab ahold of if need be.

Knives are for specific uses. A french knife belongs in the kitchen. A machette belongs in the truck or tent. A pocket knife belongs in the pocket.

The little folding knife that is the one in question in this thread is NOT a pocket knife. Those types of knives were originally only sold with sheaths worn on the belt. But now, every country in asia makes those knives for export to the US and you can get em at any 7-11 too!

You want something that is legal and utilitarian? Get a Gerber or a Leatherman!

[Biketec]

Originally posted by TonyT


No, I think it's amazingly funny that this question needs to be asked in the first place! Geez. You want to carry a knife, then carry a knife!

Legalities have little to do with it anyway. If a cop stops you in suburbia and you are a decent person and not a wise-ass backtalker to the cop, he'll let you go home, knife in pocket. But if you are a wise-ass nag to the cop, he's gonna take your knife, no matter what size it is!

you move over here to cali and tell that to a cop... you wont get far

jason

[TonyT]

been there before you were a twinkle in your dad's eye!

[Gaming-Module]

SA'ism: Ownt! (j/k)

[IronMan]

So wait let me get this straight, no one really has a missle launcher??? shoot i really need one these police helicopters are annoying me...... ooops i said to much.....

[EvilAngel]

Originally posted by HalfLifer
If its longer than your palm, its illegal.

What if your a midget? lol

[lurker]

Originally posted by EvilAngel


What if your a midget? lol

HAHAHA

[crazyman]

ya I know what it is! "don't ever carry anything that could be taken away and used against you".and if you do carry a knife or what ever, be ready to really use it! like killing someone! and if you could'nt really follow through in a brawl,then don't carry any weapons and stay away from trouble,I have been there and done that with weapons and it's not a fun place to be.and if you say that you carry it for utility purposes you are lying to yourself unless it's a swiss army knife.there is only one reason to carry a slim folding serrated edge knife with a boot clip on it,or whatever ,you get my point.


this post is not aimed at any person,it's just some thoughts of mine from personal experiences.

[Mehmet]

Originally posted by Macho-Module
Just think, if you carry a knife and three guys attack you with fists, after beating your a$$ they've now got a knife with which to impale you!

LoL thats gonna be my new Sig! hahahah

[Speldrong]

12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any
of the following is punishable by imprisonment in
a county jail not exceeding one year or in the
state prison:
(4) Carries concealed upon his or her person any
dirk or dagger. C(24) As used in this section, a
"dirk" or "dagger" means a knife or other
instrument with or without a handguard that is
capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon that
may inflict great bodily injury or death.
A nonlocking folding knife, a folding knife that
is not prohibited by Section 653k, or a
pocketknife is capable of ready use as a stabbing
weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or
death only if the blade of the knife is exposed
and locked into position.

653k. Every person who possesses in the
passenger's or driver's area of any motor vehicle
in any public place or place open to the public,
carries upon his or her person, and every person
who sells, offers for sale, exposes for sale,
loans, transfers, or gives to any other person
a switchblade knife having a blade two or more
inches in length is guilty of a misdemeanor.
For the purposes of this section, "switchblade
knife" means a knife having the appearance of a
pocketknife and includes a spring-blade knife,
snap-blade knife, gravity knife or any other
similar type knife, the blade or blades of which
are two or more inches long and which can be
released automatically by a flick of a button,
pressure on the handle, flip of the wrist or
other mechanical device, or is released by the
weight of the blade or by any type of mechanism
whatsoever. "Switchblade knife" does not include
a knife that is designed to open with one hand
utilizing thumb pressure applied solely to the
blade of the knife or a thumb stud attached to
the blade.
For purposes of this section, "passenger's or
driver's area" means that part of a motor vehicle
which is designed to carry the driver and
passengers, including any interior compartment
or space therein.

California case law:
Butterfly knife which has blade in excess of two inches is
"switch-blade knife" within meaning of... 653k. [Attorney
General's opinion 11-19-1985.]

[626.10 (a) not printed here, covers K-12 schools,
and prohibits fixed blades and folders over ??2.5"]

626.10. Any person, except [listed officials] who brings
or possesses any dirk, dagger, knife having a blade longer
than 3-1/2 inches, folding knife with a blade that locks
into place, a razor with an unguarded blade... upon the
grounds of, or within any public school... is guilty of a
misdemeanor.


626.10 (b) Any person, except a duly appointed
peace officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing
with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, a full-time
paid peace officer of another state or the federal
government who is carrying out official duties while
in this state, a person summoned by any officer
to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace
while the person is actually engaged in assisting any
officer, or a member of the military forces of this
state or the United States who is engaged in the
performance of his or her duties, who brings or
possesses any dirk, dagger, ice pick, or knife having
a fixed blade longer than 2 1/2 inches upon the
grounds of, or within, any private university, the
University of California, the California State
University, or the California Community Colleges is
guilty of a public offense, punishable by imprisonment
in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by
imprisonment in the state prison.

* * * * * * * *


Here are the 1996 statutes:

California - Penal Code Section 653k. Every person who
possesses in the passenger's or driver's area of any motor
vehicle in any public place or place open to the public,
carries upon his or her person, and every person who
sells, offers for sale, exposes for sale, loans,
transfers, or gives to any other person a switchblade
knife having a blade over two inches in length is guilty
of a misdemeanor.
For the purposes of this section a "switchblade knife"
is a knife having the appearance of a pocketknife, and
shall include a spring-blade knife, snap-blade knife,
gravity knife or any other similar type knife, the blade
or blades of which are two or more inches long and which
can be released automatically by a flick of a button,
pressure on the handle, flip of the wrist or other
mechanical device, or is released by the weight of the
blade or by any other type of mechanism whatsoever...

- 626.10. Any person, except [listed officials] who brings
or possesses any dirk, dagger, knife having a blade longer
than 3-1/2 inches, folding knife with a blade that locks
into place, a razor with an unguarded blade... upon the
grounds of, or within any public school... is guilty of a
misdemeanor.

- 12020. (a) Any person in this state who manufactures or
causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps
for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives,
lends, or possesses any... ballistic knife..., any
nunchaku..., any metal knuckles, any belt buckle
knife..., any shuriken..., any lipstick case knife, any
cane sword, any shobe-zui, any air gauge knife, any
writing pen knife... or who carries concealed upon his
or her person any dirk or dagger, is guilty of a felony...
["Metal knuckles" includes knives with metal knuckle handles.
Most of the banned items are described in the statute in
excruciating detail, but "dirk or dagger" were not defined at
all until 1996, when the state legislature added the following
definition of "dirk or dagger."]
- PC 12020(c)(24) "a knife or other instrument with or
without a handguard that is primarily designed,
constructed, or altered to be a stabbing instrument
designed to inflict great bodily injury or death."]
[The original statute includes the following exemption.]
(23)(d) Knives carried in sheaths which are worn openly
suspended from the waist of the wearer are not concealed
within the meaning of this section.

- 12028. (a) The unlawful concealed carrying... of any...
dirk or dagger... is a nuisance... (c) Any weapon
described in subdivision (a)... shall be surrendered to
the sheriff... or the chief of police... for sale at
public auction [unless it was stolen].

California case law:
Butterfly knife which has blade in excess of two inches is
"switch-blade knife" within meaning of... 653k. [Attorney
General's opinion 11-19-1985.]


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Here is a newly enacted statute furnished to me by the
office of a California State Senator; signed 10/10/1999:

SECTION 1. Section 12001.1 is added to the Penal Code, to
read:
12001.1. (a) Any person in this state who commercially
manufactures or causes to be commercially manufactured, or who
knowingly imports into the state for commercial sale, keeps for
commercial sale, or offers or exposes for commercial sale, any
undetectable knife is guilty of a misdemeanor. As used in this
section, an "undetectable knife" means any knife or other
instrument with or without a handguard that is capable of ready
use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict great bodily injury or
death that is commercially manufactured to be used as a weapon
and is not detectable by a metal detector set at standard
calibration.
(b) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, commencing
January 1, 2000, all knives or other instrument with or without
a handguard that is capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon
that may inflict great bodily injury or death that are
commercially manufactured in this state that utilize materials
that are not detectable by a metal detector shall be
manufactured to include materials that will ensure they are
detectable by a metal detector set at standard calibration.
(c) This section shall not apply to the manufacture or
importation of undetectable knives for sale to a law enforcement
or military entity nor shall this section apply to the
subsequent sale of these knives to a law enforcement or military
entity.
(d) This section shall not apply to the manufacture or
importation of undetectable knives for sale to federal, state,
and local historical societies, museums, and institutional
collections which are open to the public, provided that the
undetectable knives are properly housed and secured from
unauthorized handling, nor shall this section apply to the
subsequent sale of the knives to these societies, museums, and
collections.

[downhill]

We have 4 pages about that knife. Did you find that on Google, Speldrong?

Oh and welcome to SpeedGuide!!!

[CiscoKid]

Originally posted by Biketec


you move over here to cali and tell that to a cop... you wont get far

jason

It's true. TonyT, while interning last month, I was stopped in fornt of a Burger King by a cop and because I had 200 and a utility knife in my pocket, he wanted to take it and me to the station. Times have changed sinc eyou have have been hee, now, a teen can't turn a corner without suspicion

[Biketec]

Originally posted by IronMan
So wait let me get this straight, no one really has a missle launcher??? shoot i really need one these police helicopters are annoying me...... ooops i said to much.....

no no no... i really know somebody with a missle launcher

Jason

[tomsykes]

What the hell do you need an enormouse blade for????. I can understand a compact swiss army knife because of its convenience, but not a huge knife like those.

Clearly, they would only be used for one thing - destruction


"Only in america" I guess.

[SRF01]

Hey Biketec, I was only kidding with ya bro.

[Biketec]

Originally posted by SRF01
Hey Biketec, I was only kidding with ya bro.

[Joe]

Thats one big knife

*runs*

[Biketec]

mine? nah... its not too big. i mean sure it would kill ya.. but it isnt too big.

i like it though

Jason