windows terminal server

albertldee · Post by **albertldee** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:39 pm

is using windows terminal server faster that vnc when used for remote connection
also i have a windows 2000 pro system at office can i install windows terminal server on it for remote connecton to from home

objohn · Post by **objohn** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:01 am

The RDP protocol can be configured to be thinner than VNC, but bear in mind that with RDP you can set it up to map local drives, cache bitmaps, and bring remote sound to the local machine so if you have all this enabled the bandwidth use goes up.
In my experience RDP is more responsive than VNC and is more portable - i.e every single machine with windows XP installed has MSTSC.exe where as you will have to install the VNC client on all machines you want to use it from.

RDP protocol is 3389 if you need to forward ports on a router - VNC is 5900

Hope the above helps
OJ

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:15 am

albertldee · Post by **albertldee** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:09 am

does windows 2000 profesional come with terminal service like windows xp pro
i'm trying to connect 2 0ffices together what's the best way to go they both have dsl i can get static ip if needed, i was thinking about buying a server with windows 2003 server and would that help i have a software with 10 client license one database i have 3 employee per office plus myself,the database for the software is on one master pc and the client is install on the 3 employee pc
i want to eliminate it and have 1 or 2 server ond both office sharing 1 database

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:54 pm

2000 professional does not include a built in TS client, although you can install one that's free.

To connect the 2x offices, the approach that I would strive for....is to build a "router to router VPN connection" between the 2 offices...basically tie the two sites together as a WAN through the VPN.

Licensing...not only for Windows server itself, but don't forget you are supposed to have a license for each TS session you wish to support, which it looks like you have that covered...you mention you have the software with 10 licenses.

Shinobi · Post by **Shinobi** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:00 pm

albertldee wrote:does windows 2000 profesional come with terminal service like windows xp pro
i'm trying to connect 2 0ffices together what's the best way to go they both have dsl i can get static ip if needed, i was thinking about buying a server with windows 2003 server and would that help i have a software with 10 client license one database i have 3 employee per office plus myself,the database for the software is on one master pc and the client is install on the 3 employee pc
i want to eliminate it and have 1 or 2 server ond both office sharing 1 database

Windows Xp Pro can be configured to be a "one connection at a time" server... and has a Remote Desktop Client.

Windows 2000 Pro can not be a Remote Desktop "server", but you can download the the free client add-on program from Microsoft.
So you can connect from your Windows 2000 Pro computer
to a Windows XP Pro or Windows 2003 Computer.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/tools/rdclientdl.mspx
It's for Windows 95, Windows 98 and 98 Second Edition, Windows Me, Windows NT 4.0, or Windows 2000.

Also to note, some Linux distributions have RDP Clients that allow you to connect to Windows XP and Windows 2003 Remote Desktop Servers.

I have a Windows 2003 Server and connect to it,
with Windows NT, XP and Linux Clients.

Shinobi

albertldee · Post by **albertldee** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:17 pm

thanks everyone i'm kind of new to this but have alot of knowledge in computer just not familar with the different rounter and stuff
so if some could help me out oldyellow or anyone can you give me a list of what exactly i need

this is what i have now

3 windows 2000 proffesional pc in office 1
1 main pc in office 1 that act as the master
3 windows 2000 proffesional pc in office 2
DSL in office 1 & 2
dynamic IP

what kind of router and firewall or anything else do i need to begin the process
also i would like to connect from home if possible to the office

i'm working on installing windows server 2003 on the master pc in office 1

m4a2t0t · Post by **m4a2t0t** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:00 pm

Are you planning on installing active directory on your master PC? Is your master PC a server box or a workstation?

I would setup VPN between the two sites which would require at least one site to have static IP but preferably both sites have static IP. I would recommend sonicwall equipment, like their equipment but not their support.

remember as Yeoldestonecat has said you mave have bought windows 2003 server with 10 client licenses but you also have to buy terminal server client licenses when you install terminal services. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2 ... fault.mspx
go to the licensing section and read the document

objohn · Post by **objohn** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:45 am

You only need a TS cal if you are using downlevel clients. not if using XP

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 7:27 am

m4 I was referring to his database software when I mentioned that it looked like he had it covered, his 10 licenses. With Terminal Server, you need to treat each client instance as a license for each software package that you run. Example....some SQL based program like 4th Shift, or some BlackBaud product, or whatever. Same licensing in that aspect wether you have a server and 10 workstations which run it, or a Terminal Server with 10 client sessions. Even though you're literally running it only on 1x computer (the server)...you're still technically running the software 10 times.

objohn · Post by **objohn** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:57 am

Yeah agreed - i read it as though someone was saying he needed TS cals just to conenct to the TS server - whereas you only need these if using downlevel clients.

m4a2t0t · Post by **m4a2t0t** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:37 am

Why then does my TS need TS CALs then? I have 30 XP clients and they all need TS CALs. If you use remote desktop for administration you shouldnt need CAL but for full TS mode you should.

objohn · Post by **objohn** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:05 am

Sort of!!!
You need to be issued with a built in CAL hence the ned to the terminal Services licensing server to be installed ( you can use a temporary license for 90 days if you have not configured a licensing server)- but the CALS for windows XP are issued free of charge and you do not need to install them with a code from microsoft - when you install thd licensing server you already have an unlimited number of built in licenses.
for more info read some of the docs on the MS website, but you do not need TS cals for XP client.

OJ

m4a2t0t · Post by **m4a2t0t** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:50 am

See I remember that you had a license if you bought a copy XP pro before windows 2003 was released but I thought they changed it, actually I swear I read it on MS a while ago..LOL.

Every Windows XP Professional license purchased or owned before April 24, 2003, is eligible for a complimentary Windows Server 2003 TS CAL. Note that the Windows XP Professional license does not have to be installed as of April 24, 2003, to qualify. The product must simply be owned by that date.

anyways he has windows 2000