Help me build my Budget System

IceCube · Post by **IceCube** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 5:18 pm

Hey! I would like to build my own budget system and was wondering what you guys would recommend(processor speed, mobo, amount of ram, video card, dvd rom, sound card, hard drive..etc.). I already have a monitor so I don't really need a new one right now.

My budget is about $500US/$750Cnd.

I'm planning to get an AMD XP processor(so no pentiums

). And I already have a cdrw, but I do plan on getting a dvd rom. I'm using cable right now so I don't need a fax-modem.

So, can anyone recommend something?? Like...

CPU:
Mobo:
RAM:
Hard Drive:
Video Card:
DVD Rom:
Sound Card:

Thx!

Set · Post by **Set** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 5:27 pm

500 is tight mabye sould save 500 more then your talken

Set · Post by **Set** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 5:28 pm

you need case power supply to??? mouse keyboard ect?

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 5:33 pm

yea it'd be tough...possible tho, tell us what u have and don't have.

IceCube · Post by **IceCube** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 5:42 pm

I don't need:

- monitor
- cd burner
- mouse/keyboard
- speakers
- fax modem
- case+power supply(my friend got one for me)

basically I only need the 7 things.

cpu, mobo, ram, hard drive, video card, dvd rom(well..you can cross this off if there is a budget problem..coz i can use my old cd-rom), and sound card.

Thx again!

UnitedWeStand · Post by **UnitedWeStand** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 6:12 pm

http://www.tigerdirect.com
cheap and easy to find things.

cy · Post by cy » Sat Aug 31, 2002 6:17 pm

Motherboard: EPoX 8K3A VIA KT333, ATA-133, audio $174
CPU: Athlon XP 1600+ OEM $104
Memory: KingMax 256MB_PC-2700 DDR333_SDRAM $125
Video: Sapphire ATI_Radeon 7500 64MB DDR OEM $91
Harddrive: Western Digital 40GB $124
DVD: LG 16X OEM $58

Total $676
Tax $101.40
Total $777.40

Price quoted from
Canada computer which is almost the cheapest around Toronto area. I suggest if you have little more money, go with the 1800+ unless you gonna overclock yours like LT-73, he manage to get his 1600+ running at 18xxMhz close to 1.9Ghz stable.

IceCube · Post by **IceCube** » Sun Sep 01, 2002 12:13 pm

Originally posted by cy

Memory: KingMax 256MB_PC-2700 DDR333_SDRAM $125

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What's the difference between the 256MB_PC-2700 DDR333_SDRAM and 256MB DDR PC-2100 RAM.

Will I notice a big difference if I use the former??

aagiants · Post by **aagiants** » Sun Sep 01, 2002 12:18 pm

you want the pc2700 its worth the money, but in US dollars the Kingmax 256mv pc3200 (much faster) is around 70$

having a system under 500 is easy sinc u have most of the parts

DVD rom is about 60
Audugy Gamer 80$
CPU 1.6a 140
Radeon 8500 110
Hdd 80$ (40gb maxtor)
Mobo (i dont know but ranges for 69 to 150 for a decent one)

monkeyhead · Post by **monkeyhead** » Sun Sep 01, 2002 12:24 pm

ive built an entire system... monitor keyboard... cd-rw dvd.... tower.... for 620....
xp1800
256 ddr
32 x burner
dvd
80 gig special edition drive
17in monitor
and a router!
everything expcept speakers now that i think about it

gotta get a board with onboard video
i used the asus a7n vm or something like that....
it had onboard video and sound and ethernet

IceCube · Post by **IceCube** » Sun Sep 01, 2002 12:33 pm

Thx Guys!

one more question:

What's the difference between "256MB PC-2700 DDR333" and "256MB PC-2700 DDR333 SDRAM"?

If i get the Epox 8k3a mobo will it support both??

aagiants · Post by **aagiants** » Sun Sep 01, 2002 3:25 pm

theres no diffrence, they just labeled them diffrently. When buying memory i advise that you dont buy generic crap

cy · Post by cy » Sun Sep 01, 2002 4:03 pm

Originally posted by IceCube
Thx Guys!

one more question:

What's the difference between "256MB PC-2700 DDR333" and "256MB PC-2700 DDR333 SDRAM"?

If i get the Epox 8k3a mobo will it support both??

no difference. They are the same thing, both DDR ram, just the different wording.

Epox will support DDR ram only but not SD ram.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 6:13 am

Originally posted by UnitedWeStand
http://www.tigerdirect.com
cheap and easy to find things.

horrible place do not trust them

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 6:38 am

1.3ghz duron - 50 bucks
Asus A7N266-VM NVIDIA nFORCE 220 - 78 bucks
CRUCIAL MICRON 256MB PC 2100 DDR - 66 bucks
WD 80 gig se drive - 109 bucks
HERCULES GAMING THEATER XP 6.1 - OEM - 87 bucks when its back in stock

total is like 390 if i did my math right, enough for a 50 dolalr liteon dvd drive, all prices done through newegg.

UnitedWeStand · Post by **UnitedWeStand** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 6:55 am

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
horrible place do not trust them

I trust them to send me a complete system. but as for searching for individul components its quite difficult getting what I want because it usually out of stock. I've had 1 motherboard, 1 CDrw, and 1 512Mb Stick of PNY, all came intact no flaws.
I do trust them.
But I can't say that you're gonna find everthing. But its fast and easy to find things pictures are available by default thats why I go to Tiger.
Newegg is the best if you know how to get used to just text. I just thought he was talking about a budget system so I immediately thought OKAY http://www.tigerdirect.com YOS did you take your meds? You're kinda snappy.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 7:15 am

tiger direct has sent out some crap adn has not honored their warranty all the time either.

search SG for them and u'll see why alot of us here dont like them.

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 9:07 am

AMD XP 2100+ CPU w/ Aopen AK77-333 Motherboard w/ CPU Fan Bundle .................................. $361.00
FDPANFLOPPY Panasonic 1.44 Floppy Drive ...............$18.00
HDWD407200 Western Digital 40GB 7200rpm ATA1.$135.00
RAM256mbPC2700DDR 256mb PC-2700 DDR............$111.00
DVDPIONEER16X Pioneer 16X DVD IDE Tray w/Software ..................................................................$73.00
VCRAD7000 ATI Radeon 7000 64mb SDR OEM ...........$70.00
PSENER365VE Enermax 365-VE 350watt ATX Power Supply Only....................................................................................$66.00

..........................................................................................$834CDN

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 9:12 am

XP1600+ SYstem

CPU
AMD Athlon XP1600+

Motherboard
Aopen AK77-333 Socket A

RAM
256mb PC2100 DDR

Hard Drive
40GB 7200rpm Ultra DMA

Case
ATX Mid Tower AMD Rated

Floppy
1.44

Video
ATI Radeon 7000 64mb w/TV Out

Sound
On-board

Computer Speakers
MS-710

CD-ROM
56X IDE

Keyboard
PS/2 Win Keyboard

Mouse w/Pad
PS/2 Scroll Mouse

$730 CDN

Chris · Post by **Chris** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 9:17 am

AMD Thunderbird 1.3 266MHz
Component

CPU
AMD Thunderbird 1.3-266MHz

Motherboard
Aopen AK77-333 Socket A

RAM
256mb PC2100 DDR

Hard Drive
40GB 7200rpm Ultra DMA

Case
ATX Mid Tower AMD Rated

Floppy
1.44

Video
ATI Rage 128Pro 32mb

Sound
On-board

Computer Speakers
MS-805

CD-ROM
56X IDE

Keyboard
PS/2 Win Keyboard

Mouse w/Pad
PS/2 Scroll Mouse

WinXP Home
$814 CDN

Just go here, prices are in CDN $$

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 11:39 am

1.3ghz duron - 50 bucks
Asus A7N266-VM NVIDIA nFORCE 220 - 78 bucks
CRUCIAL MICRON 256MB PC 2100 DDR - 66 bucks
WD 80 gig se drive - 109 bucks
HERCULES GAMING THEATER XP 6.1 - OEM - 87 bucks when its back in stock ]

At Newegg the XP1600 is on sale for $51.00 and I believe the lite-on is $25.00

IceCube · Post by **IceCube** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 11:45 am

Thx for all the help guys!!

I got my parts ready now...all prices in CDN!!

Cpu: Xp 1800+ Retail.............................................$146 (dang maybe I should've bought OEM!!..but the store doesn't have it)
Mobo: Asus A7V333.................................................$154
Harddrive: Maxtor 40GB 7200rpm............................$108
RAM: Samsung 256mb ddr PC-2700........................$110
Video Card: Ati Radeon 7500 64mb ddr oem..........$43
Sound: I guess I'll just stick with onboard sound for now(upgrade later)
DVD Rom: 16x pioneer dvd-rom (Tray).....................$59

Total.........................................................................$620
+Tax.........................................................................$713(Ai! I hate the tax!!!)

IceCube · Post by **IceCube** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 11:56 am

I want to get things from NewEgg!!!

But there are No International/Canadian shipments!!!!

UnitedWeStand · Post by **UnitedWeStand** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 12:01 pm

Originally posted by IceCube
Thx for all the help guys!!

I got my parts ready now...all prices in CDN!!

Cpu: Xp 1800+ Retail.............................................$146 (dang maybe I should've bought OEM!!..but the store doesn't have it)
Mobo: Asus A7V333.................................................$154
Harddrive: Maxtor 40GB 7200rpm............................$108
RAM: Samsung 256mb ddr PC-2700........................$110
Video Card: Ati Radeon 7500 64mb ddr oem..........$43
Sound: I guess I'll just stick with onboard sound for now(upgrade later)
DVD Rom: 16x pioneer dvd-rom (Tray).....................$59

Total.........................................................................$620
+Tax.........................................................................$713(Ai! I hate the tax!!!)

Looks like a good rig.

cy · Post by cy » Mon Sep 02, 2002 12:50 pm

Originally posted by IceCube
Thx for all the help guys!!

I got my parts ready now...all prices in CDN!!

Cpu: Xp 1800+ Retail.............................................$146 (dang maybe I should've bought OEM!!..but the store doesn't have it)
Mobo: Asus A7V333.................................................$154
Harddrive: Maxtor 40GB 7200rpm............................$108
RAM: Samsung 256mb ddr PC-2700........................$110
Video Card: Ati Radeon 7500 64mb ddr oem..........$43
Sound: I guess I'll just stick with onboard sound for now(upgrade later)
DVD Rom: 16x pioneer dvd-rom (Tray).....................$59

Total.........................................................................$620
+Tax.........................................................................$713(Ai! I hate the tax!!!)

Good system, where are you getting your parts, seems like pretty cheap.

And also get retail CPU instead of OEM, it comes with 3 years warentee and the stock HSF

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 1:16 pm

The prices at Tiger Direct are cheap because they get money to sell your personal info. True as true can be.

If anybody cares, I don't like that sh*t

lance-tek · Post by **lance-tek** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 3:54 pm

I like to shop here cause it gives you all the retailers and they compete for lowest prices: http://www.pricewatch.com

check it out and see what you think

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 4:03 pm

Originally posted by lance
I like to shop here cause it gives you all the retailers and they compete for lowest prices: http://www.pricewatch.com

check it out and see what you think

Oh Yeah, Pricewatch is a great resource.

lance-tek · Post by **lance-tek** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 4:10 pm

Cpu: Xp 1800+ Retail.............................................$65.00
Mobo: Asus A7V333...............................................$105.00
Harddrive: Maxtor 40GB 7200rpm..........................$66.00
RAM: Samsung 256mb ddr PC-2700.......................$57.00
Video Card: Ati Radeon 7500 64mb ddr oem.........$58.00
Sound:Sound blaster Live Platinum 5.1 OEM ........$115.00
DVD Rom: 16x pioneer dvd-rom (Tray)...................$41.00

and the grand total is $507.00 (US) plus S/H

all can be found at http://www.pricewatch.com

Happy Hunting..............................

cy · Post by cy » Mon Sep 02, 2002 5:01 pm

Originally posted by lance
Cpu: Xp 1800+ Retail.............................................$65.00
Mobo: Asus A7V333...............................................$105.00
Harddrive: Maxtor 40GB 7200rpm..........................$66.00
RAM: Samsung 256mb ddr PC-2700.......................$57.00
Video Card: Ati Radeon 7500 64mb ddr oem.........$58.00
Sound:Sound blaster Live Platinum 5.1 OEM ........$115.00
DVD Rom: 16x pioneer dvd-rom (Tray)...................$41.00

and the grand total is $507.00 (US) plus S/H

all can be found at http://www.pricewatch.com

Happy Hunting..............................

IceCube live in Canada tho...they might not ship there or charge him a lot for shipping

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 6:48 pm

108 for the maxtor over 109 for the WD?

lance-tek · Post by **lance-tek** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 9:22 pm

don't know if they do or not. But maybe he has a buddy in the states that he could have it shipped to and save him the cash...

to forward it all as a single package would be fairly cheap if you consider the savings.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 9:56 pm

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
1.3ghz duron - 50 bucks
Asus A7N266-VM NVIDIA nFORCE 220 - 78 bucks
CRUCIAL MICRON 256MB PC 2100 DDR - 66 bucks
WD 80 gig se drive - 109 bucks
HERCULES GAMING THEATER XP 6.1 - OEM - 87 bucks when its back in stock

total is like 390 if i did my math right, enough for a 50 dolalr liteon dvd drive, all prices done through newegg.

For a cheap system, that is very hard to beat. I might put a couple of more coins into a 1600+

SICMF · Post by **SICMF** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 10:01 pm

Originally posted by Deus ex Machina
For a cheap system, that is very hard to beat. I might put a couple of more coins into a 1600+

You can get one from new egg for 5 dollars more.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 10:24 pm

Originally posted by Hybridmonolith
You can get one from new egg for 5 dollars more.

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.a ... 303&DEPA=0

actually about 2 dollars

Heck add 25 for a 1800+ or 50 for a 2000+

SLK · Post by **SLK** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 11:04 pm

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
horrible place do not trust them

]

believe it or not. there going way up hill. on resellerratings there rates went up from 2.50 to 4.91. they must be under new management now. there prices arent bad on some items either.

IceCube · Post by **IceCube** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 11:27 pm

Originally posted by YARDofSTUF
108 for the maxtor over 109 for the WD?

$109 US though!!!

it's about 165cdn....and that's newegg's price!

I don't know anyone that lives in the US....