I have a Linksys BEFW11S4 (I am currently not using the wireless feature) with two comps hooked to it (details in my profile)
I am not sure exactly when this started but we have been experiencing lots of lag spikes when we play online games. As a test last night, my brother hooked up the DSL directly into his computer and we noticed something. Pages loaded faster, connecting to IRC was instant unlike the 10 secs. or so when hooked to the router.
We also use a program to pin servers when playing CS and when we connect, our pings are anywhere from 10 - 20 higher then what was shown to us. When we were hooked up directly to the DSL, our pings were exactly like was shown to us.
My question is are routers supposed to add ping and open programs like this even when there is only person using it at the time? I always thought that a router would give the same connection speed as if you weren't using it at all. I could understand if both comps were using the connection but a lot of this happens when one person is using the internet.
I feel like maybe there is something enabled that shouldn't be on the router but I am kind of a newbie when it comes to networking and definitions. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas that would help.
Router Question...
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mStorm
Latency
Dear CS gamer,
As a general rule of thumb, routers or anything that process traffic (packets) add latency. In most instances they can add up to 60% latency --round trip time. This is often inperceivable, however you should take a look at your router. If your router is acting as a firewall this can add *more* latency than if it were just routing. Dependant upon the state information your router keeps (most cheese routers dont snoop past layer 4) the more they maintain the more processing time per packet takes place.
When a router is acting as a firewall it often snoops further up the TCP/IP stack thus creating more latency.
My advice would be, check the router out, see if there is any overkill. Make sure its doing just the basics.
PS. CS is biased towards people with higher latency now anyhow.
As a general rule of thumb, routers or anything that process traffic (packets) add latency. In most instances they can add up to 60% latency --round trip time. This is often inperceivable, however you should take a look at your router. If your router is acting as a firewall this can add *more* latency than if it were just routing. Dependant upon the state information your router keeps (most cheese routers dont snoop past layer 4) the more they maintain the more processing time per packet takes place.
When a router is acting as a firewall it often snoops further up the TCP/IP stack thus creating more latency.
My advice would be, check the router out, see if there is any overkill. Make sure its doing just the basics.
PS. CS is biased towards people with higher latency now anyhow.
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mStorm
Possibly
Is it real bad? 10ms isn't that bad. I'm sure there is a way to disable it. If you can disable the firewalling feature on your router that should kill the layered snooping (port inspections). Then it should just run NAT--which might quicken it up a bit. How do you connect to your router? Physical cable or wireless?
-mStorm
-mStorm
Right now I use a direct connection. Neither comp is using the wireless feature and I also have it disabled at the moment.
It is more or less the huge lag spikes I experience when playing online. Our pings shoot up anywhere from 200 - 400 which shouldn't be happening. I am just trying to figure out the problem by disabling things running that I don't need.
It is more or less the huge lag spikes I experience when playing online. Our pings shoot up anywhere from 200 - 400 which shouldn't be happening. I am just trying to figure out the problem by disabling things running that I don't need.
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For online gaming performance, you have to kick up a few notches in your choice of routers. The Linksys is a very entry level router. Just like other components of your computer, video card, sound card, CPU, etc etc....routers vary in quality and performance. The Linksys, while a great entry level router, is not a top performer.
Yes routers will add latency, but the better the router, the less latency will be added, because of better internal CPU's, and more RAM. A good router will hardly add any latency past a couple of ms.
Routers made my Netgear are a bit faster, Nexland and Netopia routers are brutall powerful and fast, although Netopia's are a bit out of most peeps budgets....the Nexland ISB SOHO is quite affordable (under 150 bucks), and marketed as a router for gamers.
Yes routers will add latency, but the better the router, the less latency will be added, because of better internal CPU's, and more RAM. A good router will hardly add any latency past a couple of ms.
Routers made my Netgear are a bit faster, Nexland and Netopia routers are brutall powerful and fast, although Netopia's are a bit out of most peeps budgets....the Nexland ISB SOHO is quite affordable (under 150 bucks), and marketed as a router for gamers.
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