why why why???

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Fri Jul 26, 2002 6:16 am

can anyone tell me if im just stoopid or what cuz im goin crazy...

900 AMD
256 mb ram
ATI rage 128
Hercules Game Theater XP
Creative 12x dvd
H P 24x4x4 cdrw
sys is about a year and a half old, recently reformatted
was having probs before format

ok, i try to fire up games, Ghost Recon, Q3, Populous The Begining, i also tryto start windoz media player, and everything just locks up the sys, it acts like it wants to run goes through some motions and then just never starts...
help? please?

yikes · Post by **yikes** » Fri Jul 26, 2002 12:39 pm

Latest drivers for al devices? Have you added any new hardware recently? All hardware devices securly mounted, and cabled.

Any recent changes to the BIos?

loop2kil · Post by **loop2kil** » Fri Jul 26, 2002 2:08 pm

os? m/b model # and/or chipset?

might just need the latest m/b drivers for the chipset...Also, could be a crapping out PSU. Any other hardware changes?

Partial · Post by **Partial** » Fri Jul 26, 2002 3:03 pm

Could be a RAM problem. What kind of RAM do you have? If its cheap and generic, I wouldn't be suprised if that's your problem.

Also, check your power supply. How many watts does it supply. Power supplies can be sources of all kinds of mysterious problems. You should have no less than 250W and 300W would be better.

cy · Post by cy » Fri Jul 26, 2002 3:24 pm

It's your ATI.....I was having the same problem with my ATI rage fury, that's why i switched to a Creative Banschee (i know i know it's crap) and runs way better than the ATI!

MAmuT · Post by **MAmuT** » Fri Jul 26, 2002 4:43 pm

it maigh be 2 things temperature and CPU voltage. I had the same problem and it was the CPU Voltage that was wrong, were i you i ll check that first

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Jul 26, 2002 5:15 pm

Not enough info...

How did you reformat? Latest motherboard drivers first...then update each of your other devices with the latest drivers?

Which OS?

Overclocking at all? If so, kick it back to default for a while.

Anti-virus that is up to date?

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Fri Jul 26, 2002 11:46 pm

Originally posted by YeOldeStonecat
Not enough info...

How did you reformat? Latest motherboard drivers first...then update each of your other devices with the latest drivers?

Which OS?

Overclocking at all? If so, kick it back to default for a while.

Anti-virus that is up to date?

dos f-disk.... could not even tell what mb i got...
win 98 se
no oc that i know of but i didnt build this sys, and ive had suspicions that ive been ripped off, but when i reformat would the overclocking that "might" have been done, gone back to normal?

and the anti virus is AVG and i just installed it...

cy · Post by cy » Sat Jul 27, 2002 12:02 am

Like i mention earlier, try to replace with another video card and see whether problem is solving because thats what happened to mine before...

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Sat Jul 27, 2002 12:08 am

Originally posted by cy
Like i mention earlier, try to replace with another video card and see whether problem is solving because thats what happened to mine before...

k i will try that.......good excuse to go buy a new card lol
even though it will be a while....
guess ill have to be happy with a very expensive surfin machine lol
thats about all i do really...
thnx dood

cy · Post by cy » Sat Jul 27, 2002 1:02 am

np. Well of course meanwhile u can try other ways that other ppl has mentioned. Well maybe u can just borrow a card off your friend, not nessessary need to buy one because it's only a assumption that it's the video card's problem

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Sat Jul 27, 2002 1:38 am

ok f00, instead of "ATi is at fault" lets try installing the latest VIA 4 in 1 drivers, updating direct x, a clean install of windows.... next thread i'll just post "nVidia sucks, intel can blow me, and tom pabst is a l33t h4x0rz" .. ok??

Amro

onetrueday · Post by **onetrueday** » Sat Jul 27, 2002 3:36 am

Originally posted by Amro
ok f00, instead of "ATi is at fault" lets try installing the latest VIA 4 in 1 drivers, updating direct x, a clean install of windows.... next thread i'll just post "nVidia sucks, intel can blow me, and tom pabst is a l33t h4x0rz" .. ok??

Amro

Intel is amazing! (I know you were kidding, maybe I'm kidding too!) Anyways, what does l33t h4x0rz mean? Gosh, I'm a loser!

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Sat Jul 27, 2002 6:27 am

Originally posted by onetrueday

Intel is amazing! (I know you were kidding, maybe I'm kidding too!) Anyways, what does l33t h4x0rz mean? Gosh, I'm a loser!

lol@the2 a u
ok i have no idea what kinda ram prolly generic if i know the peeps that built this pig...
the manual i got for the mb (which dont mean nuthin)
says:

K7AT
VIA KT-133 CHIPSET
ATX Form Factor

i cant find any other name ... is this thing generic?
do they make generic mobo's>?

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Sat Jul 27, 2002 6:37 am

OH YEAH....
how would i check to see if anything is overclocked?
cuz before a friend of mine told me about SG, i thought you could only oc the processor... so ive really been in the dark about things
*deep southern accent* AND I HAVE FOUND THE LIGHT!!!
lol

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sat Jul 27, 2002 12:42 pm

msconfig some of that stuff out of start up... It is taxin' all of your resources...

Let us know if you need details on this...

Consider adding a stick of RAM to handle what you are wanting do...

Reboot often
Also, make sure that any prog you open, finishes opening all of the way before you close it...

SLK · Post by **SLK** » Sat Jul 27, 2002 12:59 pm

Originally posted by Bastid
can anyone tell me if im just stoopid or what cuz im goin crazy...

900 AMD
256 mb ram
ATI rage 128
Hercules Game Theater XP
Creative 12x dvd
H P 24x4x4 cdrw
sys is about a year and a half old, recently reformatted
was having probs before format

ok, i try to fire up games, Ghost Recon, Q3, Populous The Begining, i also tryto start windoz media player, and everything just locks up the sys, it acts like it wants to run goes through some motions and then just never starts...
help? please?

I had a similar problem. i had a 16mb version and everytime i try to run a game it would exit the game onto the desktop. or it would lock up and the screen will become blank. It kept getting worse too, everytime i booted to the desktop it would black out.

Shagster · Post by **Shagster** » Sat Jul 27, 2002 1:10 pm

NEVER underestimate the power of your latest chipset drivers

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Sat Jul 27, 2002 5:01 pm

Originally posted by SlicKsTufF2355

I had a similar problem. i had a 16mb version and everytime i try to run a game it would exit the game onto the desktop. or it would lock up and the screen will become blank. It kept getting worse too, everytime i booted to the desktop it would black out.

did you fix the prob?

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Sat Jul 27, 2002 5:06 pm

Originally posted by THEshaggy
NEVER underestimate the power of your latest chipset drivers

where would i find said chipset drivers?
specially if its a generic mb

larmstrong · Post by **larmstrong** » Sat Jul 27, 2002 11:46 pm

amro said it best, check those things especially direct x, no direct x and no gr, i know i forgot to install it after an installation, took me half a day to figure it out, duh on me,

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Sun Jul 28, 2002 12:48 am

the 4 in drivers can be had at http://www.viaarena.com

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Sun Jul 28, 2002 5:47 pm

ok, you guyz rule,
everything is fixed got new drivers fo mobo, got dx 8 and everything is fine except during a test game of UT the mouse stopped working and i got an error message stating that i was outta mem...
imma try some diff things to see if that was the cause like turning stuff down in the game but, all the same all of you guys rewl!!!!
thnx

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sun Jul 28, 2002 5:50 pm

Originally posted by Bastid
everything is fine except during a test game of UT the mouse stopped working and i got an error message stating that i was outta mem...

https://www.speedguide.net/forums/ ... post748158

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Sun Jul 28, 2002 6:11 pm

oh yeah, i forgot to mention i did the msconfig thingy and i turned off what i thought i could get away with...
do i need accessrampmonitor, scanreg?
and ill be lookin for another stick o 256 just to be on the safe side
and once again thnx

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sun Jul 28, 2002 11:36 pm

Originally posted by Bastid
oh yeah, i forgot to mention i did the msconfig thingy and i turned off what i thought i could get away with...
do i need accessrampmonitor, scanreg?
and ill be lookin for another stick o 256 just to be on the safe side
and once again thnx

These sites will help you understand what each listing is and if you need it to run from start up:

http://www2.whidbey.com/djdenham/index.htm

http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.htm

http://www.forrestandassociates.co.uk/p ... rtups.html

Those are good info pages. Read them to get a bit of background understanding, then go through your items and match it to their lists... I let only a bare minimum run in start up on my 98 box... If I want something to run, then I will open it...

Bastid · Post by **Bastid** » Mon Jul 29, 2002 12:39 am

Originally posted by Ken

These sites will help you understand what each listing is and if you need it to run from start up:

http://www2.whidbey.com/djdenham/index.htm

http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.htm

http://www.forrestandassociates.co.uk/p ... rtups.html

Those are good info pages. Read them to get a bit of background understanding, then go through your items and match it to their lists... I let only a bare minimum run in start up on my 98 box... If I want something to run, then I will open it...

kewl...those pages are a great help!!! thnx
ok, msconfig'd to bare minimum, i turned down some settings on the game i was playing and everything is kewl except my keyboard freezes after about 20-30 min, problem has always been there, just lived with it...some times its there some times its not...

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