Motorola SURFboard SB6120

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:12 pm

Anyone got one of these new Docsis 3.0 modems yet? Any pros/cons?

I'm thinking about getting one so that I can upgrade to Charter's Internet Max service, Docsis 3.0 up to 20mbps download. I like purchasing my own modem so that I can reduce costs in the long run. Right now I have the Surfboard 5100.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:23 pm

I don't think anyone other than Comcast is supporting them yet... I know of two places right now selling them that i found but they are high.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:28 pm

I can get one for $99, which is the same price I paid for the 5100 when it was new.

I know to get the speeds with Charter's Internet Max you need a Docsis 3.0 modem though, they will provide one, but I want to purchase my own, just seeing if anyone has used this modem yet.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:44 pm

Brent wrote:I can get one for $99, which is the same price I paid for the 5100 when it was new.

I know to get the speeds with Charter's Internet Max you need a Docsis 3.0 modem though, they will provide one, but I want to purchase my own, just seeing if anyone has used this modem yet.

Got a link to where I can read about them offering DOCSIS 3.0 and needing the new modems?

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:55 pm

no, i talked to a charter person about it and the services available in my area via the phone

anyway, all of that is irrelevant to my question

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:02 pm

Brent wrote:no, i talked to a charter person about it and the services available in my area via the phone

anyway, all of that is irrelevant to my question

yeah but see if you can find a link anyway... I'd like to read up on their services.

mattballew · Post by **mattballew** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:57 pm

charter offers a 20 now???? Currently (In North Carolina) Charter only offers the 16 Meg, which i have! lol. Yeah its nice, A lot better than the 3, 5, or even 10 meg. You notice your biggest difference in Upload. Or at least i do...

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:22 pm

mattballew wrote:charter offers a 20 now???? Currently (In North Carolina) Charter only offers the 16 Meg, which i have! lol. Yeah its nice, A lot better than the 3, 5, or even 10 meg. You notice your biggest difference in Upload. Or at least i do...

Yeah see someone may have said up to 20 but I don't think nobody is rolling out or offering up DOCSIS 3.0 other than Comcast right now. The prices for the modems are also way high as well.

Brent · Post by **Brent** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:24 pm

mattballew wrote:charter offers a 20 now???? Currently (In North Carolina) Charter only offers the 16 Meg, which i have! lol. Yeah its nice, A lot better than the 3, 5, or even 10 meg. You notice your biggest difference in Upload. Or at least i do...

Charter has the new Internet Max service now up to 20mbps - http://www.charter.com/Visitors/Product ... MenuItem=3 - Click on High Speed Internet Max

What part of NC are you in?

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:12 pm

Brent wrote:Charter has the new Internet Max service now up to 20mbps - http://www.charter.com/Visitors/Product ... MenuItem=3 - Click on High Speed Internet Max

What part of NC are you in?

Thanks for the link but it doesn't work.. I don't live there so I don't have an address to punch in to see anything.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:08 am

Sava700 wrote:but I don't think nobody is rolling out or offering.

"Don't think nobody" is a double negative...it actually means you think somebody is.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:14 am

YeOldeStonecat wrote:"Don't think nobody" is a double negative...it actually means you think somebody is.

aww good point...

umatter2charter · Post by **umatter2charter** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:26 am

Charter does offer HSI Max, up to 20 meg now, however you do not need a DOCSIS 3 modem to use 20 meg. DOCSIS 2 will support speeds up to 42.88Mb/s. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS

Also, we do not offer 16Mb/s any longer as it has been upgraded across all markets to 20Mb/s. We do also offer DOCSIS 3 capabilities in certain markets at the moment (60 down/5 up).

jeremyboycool · Post by **jeremyboycool** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:32 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:"Don't think nobody" is a double negative...it actually means you think somebody is.

Better stay on topic or Brent will call you names.

billsp · Post by **billsp** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:12 am

Cox supports DOCSIS 3.0 and the SB6120 in the Phoenix area.
I am paying Cox for HIS Premiem with Powerboost that's suppose to
get 20Mbps max, I get 5Mbps to 8Mbps. Cox is blaming may older modem a
PCX2200. Maybe I 'll upgrade to a SB6120. I hope its compatible with my
US Robotics 5461.

jarablue · Post by **jarablue** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:38 pm

I have Charters 60meg and I use the SB6120. The modem works flawlessly. Firmware is easy to update. I've been getting 60-67megabit steady.

Any other questions?

SlikLizrd · Post by **SlikLizrd** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:46 am

OOOOPS !!
HEE ! HEE ! HEE !
My very first post here --- an' I messed it up !!!
See below.

SlikLizrd · Post by **SlikLizrd** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:30 am

After several months of use and some judicious tweaking (Thanks, Speedguide.net!), my SB6120 is rockin' in the free world at speeds up to 90.5 Mbps (down) and 7.5 Mbps (up) -- with excellent line quality and zero packet loss and/or jitter. And that's from a Speedtest.net server that's 300 miles away !!!
My SB6120's test results here at SpeedGuide seem to be WAY higher than the average shown on the charts -- and it's like that wherever/whenever a speed and/or line quality test is taken.
Cost-wise, it's a no-brainer -- forget the Cable Company's outrageous "tier" fees and rental charges -- get your own SB6120 on-line for about 85 clams at Amazon.com, Newegg, Tiger Direct, etc. I got mine at Amazon -- with no tax and free shipping.
My SB6120 has already paid for itself -- and the rest is GRAVY !!
Set-up takes just a few seconds, and a quick call to your ISP (give 'em your new MAC addy), and you're ready to ROCK !!!
Regardless of the ISP or your "tier" of cable service, the SB6120's DOCSIS 3 "bonding channel" technology makes ALL other (regardless of brand or model) cable modems obsolete.
Time's a-wastin' -- get your SB6120 TODAY !!

jarablue · Post by **jarablue** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:43 am

SlikLizrd wrote:
After several months of use and some judicious tweaking (Thanks, Speedguide.net!), my SB6120 is rockin' in the free world at speeds up to 90.5 Mbps (down) and 7.5 Mbps (up) -- with excellent line quality and zero packet loss and/or jitter. And that's from a Speedtest.net server that's 300 miles away !!!
My SB6120's test results here at SpeedGuide seem to be WAY higher than the average shown on the charts -- and it's like that wherever/whenever a speed and/or line quality test is taken.
Cost-wise, it's a no-brainer -- forget the Cable Company's outrageous "tier" fees and rental charges -- get your own SB6120 on-line for about 85 clams at Amazon.com, Newegg, Tiger Direct, etc. I got mine at Amazon -- with no tax and free shipping.
My SB6120 has already paid for itself -- and the rest is GRAVY !!
Set-up takes just a few seconds, and a quick call to your ISP (give 'em your new MAC addy), and you're ready to ROCK !!!
Regardless of the ISP or your "tier" of cable service, the SB6120's DOCSIS 3 "bonding channel" technology makes ALL other (regardless of brand or model) cable modems obsolete.
Time's a-wastin' -- get your SB6120 TODAY !!

Is this a sales pitch? Or an actual post? Because when you say "Regardless of the ISP or your "tier" of cable service"

It definitely matters on your cable service. Your cable co for one has to be offering Docsis3 speeds and two the cable co has to have already upgraded their infrastructure and support the higher speeds. You can't just buy a SB6120 and magically get higher speeds...you have to pay for it and the cable co has to be able to offer it.

SlikLizrd · Post by **SlikLizrd** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:40 pm

No, sir -- not a pitch at all. Just reporting some facts that were gained by my personal experience with a cable modem that does a whole lot more than what we're used to.
I don't pretend to know all there is to know about cable modems -- but I have 12 years of Cox Internet service, and experience with DOCSIS 1, 2 , and now 3.
As I said before, replacing ANY earlier cable modem with a DOCSIS 3 will bring MUCH higher speeds -- regardless of the "tier" of service that you subscribe to.
And no, you do NOT have to have the DOCSIS 3 service from your cable company in order to gain significant speed -- because the SB6120 is backward-compatible, it can be installed on ANY existing cable system.
Granted, you won't get the speeds that you would with the Cable Company's highest service "tier", but you WILL get a signicant speed increase due to the increased efficiency of the SB6120's "channel bonding" circuitry.
To put it another way -- the earlier modems HELD BACK the signal (internal resistance?) between the wall plate and the RJ-45 ethernet jack -- but the DOCSIS 3 SEEMS as if it actually multiplies the signal.
For example, I subscribe to the next-to-highest "tier", and with my "old" SB5120, I was getting 23-25 Mbps after tweaking -- but the new SB6120 has me averaging well over TWICE that speed, (Speedtest.net, San Diego server) while paying for the VERY SAME service tier.
Some folks say that you can't get any more out of that wire than what the Cable Co. puts in there -- but -- since installing and tweaking on the SB6120, I'm convinced that it ain't necessarily so.
Of course, little things like a top-quality Intel 10/100/1000 Ethernet Card and Category 6 Ethernet Cables help to make that signal rock-solid and steady.

jarablue · Post by **jarablue** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:38 am

I just find it hard to believe that the modem givse your more speed then the config file sets you at. I mean I could see this modem causing a ton of headaches at the cable head end. I was under the impression that the channel bonding had to be put in place by the cable co. Not the modem doing it.

You learn something new everyday.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:54 pm

I know I could do without the blue font.... gives me a headache

indycar · Post by **indycar** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:14 am

I'm trying to figure the angle here. Blue font with CAPS tossed in for effect reminds me of a used car salesman. Just my $0.02

SlikLizrd · Post by **SlikLizrd** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:37 pm

jarablue wrote:I just find it hard to believe that the modem givse your more speed then the config file sets you at. I mean I could see this modem causing a ton of headaches at the cable head end. I was under the impression that the channel bonding had to be put in place by the cable co. Not the modem doing it.

You learn something new everyday.

I was as surprised as you are -- but the Motorola Modem Fixxer-upper (live, real-time) shows that there are 2 downstream channels available, with separate readings for S-N-R Level, Downstream Power Level, and Frequency.
Upstream shows figures for only 1 channel.
Cox.net says that there are up to four (4) bonded channels available with their DOCSIS 3 Program Tier -- but I ain't payin' for the top-shelf stuff. Please understand that this SB6120 was NOT purchased from my cable provider -- they have no control over the amount of signal that the modem itself can transmit/recieve -- that's the job of the new DOCSIS 3 technology.
I poked, prodded, and tweaked on optimizing the various settings and refining the Ethernet throughput.
Just in passing -- a while back, saw a list of the World's Top 100 Fastest Internet Connections and was surprised that EVERY ONE of the World's Top 100 speeds were recorded using Mozilla's Firefox on a PC.

SlikLizrd · Post by **SlikLizrd** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:40 pm

Sava700 wrote:I know I could do without the blue font.... gives me a headache

SlikLizrd · Post by **SlikLizrd** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:54 pm

indycar wrote:I'm trying to figure the angle here. Blue font with CAPS tossed in for effect reminds me of a used car salesman. Just my $0.02

No angle -- I just like blue !!

I use caps instead of italics, 'cause it's easier for me.

And yes, I did sell cars (Chevrolets) for a short time -- back in '69 --but spent most of my working years in manufacturing. I retired from the lithographics trade in '96.

But the topic is the SB6120, and my $0.02 says that it is lightning-fast -- and that it makes all previous modems obsolete.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:20 pm

SlikLizrd wrote:
But the topic is the SB6120, and my $0.02 says that it is lightning-fast -- and that it makes all previous modems obsolete.

It may be fast but you still need a provider that not only supports it which I believe Comcast and a few others already do, but you need that certain area to be able to provision it and support the higher bandwidth but at this time many places are not and are limited.

SlikLizrd · Post by **SlikLizrd** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:50 pm

Seems like there's a lot of mis-conceptions about the SB6120 --

First off, the SB6120 is made by Motorola -- and has NOTHING to do with your individual service provider when it comes to the SB6120's DOCSIS 3 innards.
To put it another way --
Regardless of the Cable Service provider, the SB6120 will smoke ANY and ALL of the previous brands and models of cable modems.
The SB6120 is the only DOCSIS 3 game in town -- and they can be had at Amazon.com ($83.99 today).
A quick call to your Cable Service Provider to give 'em the MAC addy from the bottom of your new SB6120, an' you're ready to get rockin' in the free world !!
Good luck !!

SlikLizrd · Post by **SlikLizrd** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:17 pm

Sava700 wrote:It may be fast but you still need a provider that not only supports it which I believe Comcast and a few others already do, but you need that certain area to be able to provision it and support the higher bandwidth but at this time many places are not and are limited.

Check this out ---

http://www.speedtest.net/rank/1221631143.png

Ya just can't do that with any other Cable Modem that's available today !!

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:18 pm

SlikLizrd wrote:Seems like there's a lot of mis-conceptions about the SB6120 --

First off, the SB6120 is made by Motorola -- and has NOTHING to do with your individual service provider when it comes to the SB6120's DOCSIS 3 innards.
To put it another way --
Regardless of the Cable Service provider, the SB6120 will smoke ANY and ALL of the previous brands and models of cable modems.
The SB6120 is the only DOCSIS 3 game in town -- and they can be had at Amazon.com ($83.99 today).
A quick call to your Cable Service Provider to give 'em the MAC addy from the bottom of your new SB6120, an' you're ready to get rockin' in the free world !!
Good luck !!

first off the large font and blue isn't needed... 2nd it does matter who the service provider is. The SB6120 is really no different than the 5120 is on DOCSIS 2.0 which is what most area's have. If you really notice that much of a difference then there most likely was something wrong with your old modem.

Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:19 pm

SlikLizrd wrote:Check this out ---

http://www.speedtest.net/rank/1221631143.png

Ya just can't do that with any other Cable Modem that's available today !!

Cox in your area most likely has DOCSIS 3.0 and also regards to a package increase as in ( you get what you pay for ) setup... I'm on a 16/2 package with Comcast... if I go out and get this modem i'll still be on a 16/2 package regardless.

SlikLizrd · Post by **SlikLizrd** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:13 am

Sava700 wrote:Cox in your area most likely has DOCSIS 3.0 and also regards to a package increase as in ( you get what you pay for ) setup... I'm on a 16/2 package with Comcast... if I go out and get this modem i'll still be on a 16/2 package regardless.

Yessir, Cox has DOCSIS 3 in my area -- and they will sell you an SB6120 for 100 clams or rent you one for a tidy monthly fee.
Like you, I'm on a "lesser" package (20 dn/2 up) -- and the DOCSIS 3 package is something like 50dn/5 up for an extra 20 clams per month (plus modem fee).
I was on the same 20/2 tier with an SB5120 that worked fine, with 20-25Mbps down and 2-2.5 up -- very good line quality, with low latencies, low jitter, and minimum packet loss.
After installing the SB6120 (staying in the same Cox service tier) my connection speeds improved dramatically, with improved line quality test results, as well.
Please believe me when I tell ya that the DOCSIS 3 technology makes a world of difference in your connection speeds and download times -- and look, keep this under your hat -- I'm not paying one cent more than I paid before !!
So, like you say -- if ya buy the SB6120, you'll still have the same cable service "package". BUT, sir, if you buy your SB6120 from an on-line retailer and keep your present service package, you'll be getting a whole bunch of "free speed", thanks to the DOCSIS 3 technology.
I don't work for Motorola, and I have no axe to grind. I'm just passing along a bit of well-reasoned advice that's born of a hands-on experience with different types and brands of cable modems over a 12-year period.
The SB6120 absolutely rules the bandwidth brigade, and will continue to do so until someone makes a better DOCSIS 3 modem. As it stands today, the SB6120 is the only one on the market. I understand that Linksys is heading toward DOCSIS 3, but may have run into patent-infringement hassles.
Anyways, if you wanna be the fastest kid on your block without breaking your bank account, buy an SB6120 from Amazon or Newegg and keep the service tier that you have now. The money you save will pay for the SB6120 in about 6 months.
Good Luck !!

SlikLizrd · Post by **SlikLizrd** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:01 am

Sava700 wrote:first off the large font and blue isn't needed... 2nd it does matter who the service provider is. The SB6120 is really no different than the 5120 is on DOCSIS 2.0 which is what most area's have. If you really notice that much of a difference then there most likely was something wrong with your old modem.

I beg to differ, sir --I like that size and color of font, and have been using it for about 10 years. After many years of working with the effects of colors on consumers' buying habits and the psychology involved, it was determined that the combination of blue letters on a white background are the most pleasing to the psyche of the normal/average human. In short, I NEED that font style and color in order to express myself comfortably--and you obvoiusly NEED it as something to complain about !!
If you find that color combination to be so offensive, I suggest that you consult a psychiatric professional at your earliest convenience.
And, since my font style and color are not the topic of this thread, you making an issue of it here looks kind of silly.
Let's move on:
Please let me say this one more time, since perhaps my earlier comments weren't clear --
REGARDLESS of who your cable service provider is, which "service tier" you subscribe to, or whether your cable company offers a DOCSIS 3 package or not -- an SB6120 will yield much higher connection speeds and throughput than any other modem that's available today !!
Of course, if you owned one, you would already know that !!

SlikLizrd · Post by **SlikLizrd** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:31 pm

QUOTE=Sava700;2336416]first off the large font and blue isn't needed... 2nd it does matter who the service provider is. The SB6120 is really no different than the 5120 is on DOCSIS 2.0 which is what most area's have. If you really notice that much of a difference then there most likely was something wrong with your old modem.[/QUOTE]

First off, your OPINION that my choice of font size and/or color "isn't needed" means absolutely nothing to me -- and your condescending attitude makes you appear to be a jerk of a lesser order. But -- that's not MY problem !!

Secondly, your OPINION that "the SB6120 is really no different than the 5120 is on DOCSIS 2.0" is just plain ridiculous !!!!

And NO, there was nothing wrong with my "old" modem (an SB5120) -- it's just that you don't know what you're talking about, sir !!
It's quite amusing to read your uninformed opinions expressed with such certainty -- reminds me of GWBush's insistance that Iraq had those WMDs, which we all know is and was pure, unadulterated lies.

But hey, it's only fair for me to give you a chance to back up your ridiculous claims -- so why don't you put up some numbers here on the Speedguide site that are bigger than mine !!?? Hell, it should be EASY for you to blow my measley efforts away, eh !!???

Yeah, sure. Good luck with that !!

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:39 pm

He's not claiming that the 6120 isn't different than the 5120, he's stating the fact (true fact) that it won't perform differently if you're still on a Doc2 package from your ISP. It's all about the "provisioning" of your modem.

There are quite a few other Docsis 3 modems out there, Netgear, SMC, Cisco, Arris...etc..all the usual players. Yes Docsis 3 is supposed to take you to above 160 megs of throughput, but if your ISP only provides Docsis 2 to your node...your Docsis 3 modem will be provisioned for Docsis 2 speeds....such as 20 megs. And 20 megs is 20 megs is 20 megs..no matter what your hardware is. Docsis 2 modems will pull downloads up to 38 megs. Docsis 3 still peaks at 38 megs on that channel..however, it adds a feature called channel bonding...so you can have multiple channels at the same time....hence...as they deploy it, do the math..there's your total speeds. Docsis 2 and earlier haven't the slightest idea of how to deal with channel bonding, thus..if your ISP only has Docsis 2 in your area, and you have a Docsis 3 modem...the modem isn't able to use channel bonding, because your ISP doesn't have it enabled on the other end.

SlikLizrd · Post by **SlikLizrd** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:18 pm

[quote="Sava700"]Cox in your area most likely has DOCSIS 3.0 and also regards to a package increase as in ( you get what you pay for ) setup... I'm on a 16/2 package with Comcast... if I go out and get this modem i'll still be on a 16/2 package regardless.[/quote]

I'm trying to do you a favor here, Sava -- but you just don't get it !!

I'm telling you that you can BEAT the cable company -- and (if you read betwen the lines) I told you how to do it.

If it's more important to you to give me smart-mouth, then so be it !!

With the SB6120, I'm posting some of the very highest test numbers on the SpeedGuide site -- and I get the same results no matter which type of test site that I use, including SpeedGuide, SpeedTest, OOKLA, Digital Landing, PingTest, etc. -- and I'm not paying a single cent more than I paid with the SB5120 that I replaced !!

Y'see, Sava -- I'm an old man with nothing to prove, so it doesn't mean diddley to me if you don't wanna learn anything from my experiences.
I just came here to pass some worthwhile info on to you folks -- 'cause that's what old men do.
You, of course, are free to do as you wish.

Oh, and about those numbers -- I ran a 62 Mbps down and a 9.9 Mbps up earlier today at the SpeedGuide site -- and my ISP pings me at 9 ms !!!!

I'm on COX Cable's 20/2 package.

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Sava700 · Post by **Sava700** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:55 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:He's not claiming that the 6120 isn't different than the 5120, he's stating the fact (true fact) that it won't perform differently if you're still on a Doc2 package from your ISP. It's all about the "provisioning" of your modem.
.

I gave up a while back trying to explain all this.. that and flash based speed tests are not going to be very accurate. You turn to try!

SlikLizrd · Post by **SlikLizrd** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:57 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:He's not claiming that the 6120 isn't different than the 5120, he's stating the fact (true fact) that it won't perform differently if you're still on a Doc2 package from your ISP. It's all about the "provisioning" of your modem.

There are quite a few other Docsis 3 modems out there, Netgear, SMC, Cisco, Arris...etc..all the usual players. Yes Docsis 3 is supposed to take you to above 160 megs of throughput, but if your ISP only provides Docsis 2 to your node...your Docsis 3 modem will be provisioned for Docsis 2 speeds....such as 20 megs. And 20 megs is 20 megs is 20 megs..no matter what your hardware is. Docsis 2 modems will pull downloads up to 38 megs. Docsis 3 still peaks at 38 megs on that channel..however, it adds a feature called channel bonding...so you can have multiple channels at the same time....hence...as they deploy it, do the math..there's your total speeds. Docsis 2 and earlier haven't the slightest idea of how to deal with channel bonding, thus..if your ISP only has Docsis 2 in your area, and you have a Docsis 3 modem...the modem isn't able to use channel bonding, because your ISP doesn't have it enabled on the other end.

HEE ! HEE ! HEE !
What is it with you guys, anyhow !!???
You're sitting there telling me what I can't do after I told you all that I'm already doing it !!!

But hey, it's all good -- 'cause I've got months worth of test numbers from over a half-dozen testing sites that prove conclusively that my SB6120 puts out DOUBLE the speeds of my "old" SB5120 -- and my monthly bill is exactly the same !!

Yes, yes, I know all about the theory that you spoke of -- this ain't my first rodeo -- and I thought the same way that you do -- until I bought the SB6120 and fired that sucker up !!

The SB6120 has already paid for itself with the savings from not having to pay that DOCSIS 3 package fee.
And NO, I don't get the full speeds that the SB6120 modem is capable of -- but I'm posting some of the fastest numbers that I can find on ANY site, anywhere !!

I live in Phoenix, but use "Hostgo" (Fremont, CA.) as my tester host here at SpeedGuide.
If you check the "ph.ph.cox.net" stats, you'll see some numbers that are WAY higher than the majority -- and if you click on the test numbers, you'll see "SlikLizrd" put 'em up there.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:02 pm

Sustained or "burst" packages with your ISP?

If you download a 50 meg file from several good sites...so as to get past that 10 meg file "burst" speed. Bet you'll see different sustained numbers.

Seriously..check out what provisioning is, and the differences in Docsis 3 over 2. Yeah Surfboards rock, some models are my favorite cable modems. I have several at home, several more in the Jeep, several more at the office..and dozens 'n dozens ..actually more than that...out in deployment.

"Posting the fastest numbers than you've seen at any site?"

Uhm, I doubt it. Are you posting greater than 100 meg speeds?

SlikLizrd · Post by **SlikLizrd** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:59 pm

Yes, both COX Cable and COMCAST have the "burst" feature --which they market as part of their hi-speed internet package.
And wouldn't I be a dummy for trying to defeat the thing in order to make the speed numbers go DOWN !!???
I think I'm glad I'm not as "smart" as you are --- I'd never learn anything if I thought I already knew everything !!
I mean, do you really believe that someone could own one of these things for nearly a year without knowing what "provisioning" is, and how it works !!???
Do you honestly believe that I don't know the differences between DOCSIS 2 and DOCSIS 3 !!???
Man, that's big-time arrogance -- and it doesn't become you !!
Your 20,000+ posts here are certainly commanding of much respect, sir, and I would surmise that your experience AND knowledge of computers and broadband networking is far greater than my own -- but talking down to peeps that you don't know anything about kinda makes you look like a real jerk -- or a Republican.

Anyways, I must apologize for not wording one of my earlier posts carefully enough --
It should have read "posting SOME OF the fastest numbers that I've seen at any site" -- since I would NEVER claim my numbers to be the fastest possible, since I know full well that anybody that has a DOCSIS 3 and pays for their ISP's "DOCSIS 3 Package" will have the full 4 bonded channels available --- and they'll blow my freakin' doors off !!!

And no, I'm not pulling down 100-meg speeds -- and I haven't seen anybody else pulling 'em, either -- but I'm sure that peeps who grab a SB6120 will be rackin' up some bodacious numbers as soon as they get set up and tuned up !!

My rig is running on TWO of the possible 4 bonded channels -- and those 2 bonded channels give me double (or better) speeds than I could wring out of the "old" SB5120.
No matter HOW you slice it, the SB6120 is WAY faster than ANY DOCSIS 1 or 2 -- and you DON"T have to pay the full amount to reap some hefty speeds from it !!
Netgear makes a DOCSIS 3 !??? I don't think so, sir. According to Google, it's only the SB6120 and the new Cisco model that have the DOCSIS 3 technology available at this time.

Just wondering -- what kind of DOCSIS 3 modem do you have, and what (if anything) do you like about it !??

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