Kuwaiti Lizards

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sat May 20, 2006 8:44 am

Must be mating season for the lizards were out in hundreds today just outside one of the desert camps. I heard they were poisonous if bitten //shrug//. All I know is that these bad boys are fast and freakin' mean.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sat May 20, 2006 10:04 am

Jeeze those things are FAT. Can you grill 'em?

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Sat May 20, 2006 10:11 am

How can those fat things be fast. LOL

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sat May 20, 2006 10:12 am

Lefty wrote:How can those fat things be fast. LOL

Ever see Prey's MIL chase him into the bedroom?

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Sat May 20, 2006 10:13 am

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Ever see Prey's MIL chase him into the bedroom?

That would be a site.

TonyT · Post by **TonyT** » Sat May 20, 2006 11:21 am

arabian armadillos

Randy · Post by **Randy** » Sat May 20, 2006 11:42 am

I want to punt one ( bored)

A_old · Post by **A_old** » Sat May 20, 2006 11:45 am

they're pretty big too

Lefty · Post by **Lefty** » Sat May 20, 2006 12:39 pm

Randy wrote:I want to punt one ( bored)

better off with a nice vamint gun and a good scope.

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Sat May 20, 2006 1:20 pm

If its so dangerous why are you so close!?

Does the tail make any noise? Do those armadillo like things open up when its pissed off?

Pie

Rivas · Post by **Rivas** » Sat May 20, 2006 1:54 pm

wow they are beautiful

i never heard of lizard being poisonious but maybe i'm wrong

ghettoside · Post by **ghettoside** » Sat May 20, 2006 2:02 pm

YeOldeStonecat wrote:Jeeze those things are FAT. Can you grill 'em?

LOL, I'm wondering the same!

ghettoside · Post by **ghettoside** » Sat May 20, 2006 2:03 pm

rivas wrote:wow they are beautiful
i never heard of lizard being poisonious but maybe i'm wrong

2 types of poisonous lizards, link

another link

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sat May 20, 2006 2:46 pm

They aren't fat they puff themselves up (see tail also) to make them look big and bad. They swing the tail like a bat when within range. Don't ask how we knew that. lol

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sat May 20, 2006 2:48 pm

thepieman wrote:If its so dangerous why are you so close!?

Does the tail make any noise? Do those armadillo like things open up when its pissed off?

Pie

The tail doesn't make a sound but they hiss something fierce.

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sat May 20, 2006 2:49 pm

rivas wrote:wow they are beautiful
i never heard of lizard being poisonious but maybe i'm wrong

I'm only going by what the locals told me. Myth or not I didn't want to find out.

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sat May 20, 2006 2:51 pm

thepieman wrote:If its so dangerous why are you so close!?

I was in position to run if the lizard decided to strike. Besides, my colleague behind the lizard was distracting it more. I guess he felt cornered.

Humboldt · Post by **Humboldt** » Sat May 20, 2006 2:52 pm

Looks like he's eyeing your left nut.

Jamie_R · Post by **Jamie_R** » Sat May 20, 2006 3:03 pm

12 Guage > little fat lizard

FunK · Post by **FunK** » Sat May 20, 2006 3:16 pm

Yeah, cornering it wouldn't be a good idea. In Australia some goanna's will "climb the tallest thing in site". In the desert (much like you are), you may just be the tallest thing.. Those bad boys have some claws on em too..

Aren't "poisonous" lizards more about them biting and the cut getting infected by al the germs they have in their mouth? Isn't the Komodo Dragon like that?

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Sat May 20, 2006 3:23 pm

rivas wrote:wow they are beautiful
i never heard of lizard being poisonious but maybe i'm wrong

While the Komodo Dragon is a huge lizard its saliva is REALLY poisonous. It kills its prey (Not our prey) almost right away.
The captured ones do not have this because they aren't in their environment. Its like a bacteria or virus.

MissTynker2 · Post by **MissTynker2** » Sat May 20, 2006 3:35 pm

That is one mean looking critter!! My feet would not have gotten me out of there fast enough!!

Patrick...you are looking great!! Looks like quite a weight loss to me...nice pic

Jamie_R · Post by **Jamie_R** » Sat May 20, 2006 3:51 pm

thepieman wrote:While the Komodo Dragon is a huge lizard its saliva is REALLY poisonous. It kills its prey (Not our prey) almost right away.

nah ... wouldn't touch ours

De Plano · Post by **De Plano** » Sat May 20, 2006 3:54 pm

The Komodo Dragon eats rotten meat and its saliva is bacteria ridden. If you fed them fresh meat and listerene there would not be any problems with infections. One in the wild will be infectious to the point of being considered "poisonous", but it is not a poison produced by the actual lizard.

My buddy in Panama was telling me some pretty funny local beleifs about the lizards and snakes. One of the lizards down there is considered poisonous, but if you beat it to water and drink before the lizard does you will live. They also believed that there was a poisonous spike in the end of their tail (no lizard in the world has that). Basically any lizard or snake other than an iguana is considered poisonous and should immediately be killed, pretty sad in my view.

Croc · Post by **Croc** » Sat May 20, 2006 4:12 pm

<Crochunter> Crikey Patrick!!! <//Crochunter//>

Nice pics Pat.

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sat May 20, 2006 4:17 pm

It's a dhub or spiney-tailed lizard.

http://www.arabianwildlife.com/archive/vol2.2/kuw.htm

ghettoside · Post by **ghettoside** » Sat May 20, 2006 4:51 pm

rivas wrote:i never heard of lizard being poisonious but maybe i'm wrong

ghettoside wrote:2 types of poisonous lizards, link

another link

FunK wrote:Aren't "poisonous" lizards more about them biting and the cut getting infected by al the germs they have in their mouth? Isn't the Komodo Dragon like that?

thepieman wrote:While the Komodo Dragon is a huge lizard its saliva is REALLY poisonous. It kills its prey (Not our prey) almost right away.
The captured ones do not have this because they aren't in their environment. Its like a bacteria or virus.

De Plano wrote:The Komodo Dragon eats rotten meat and its saliva is bacteria ridden. If you fed them fresh meat and listerene there would not be any problems with infections. One in the wild will be infectious to the point of being considered "poisonous", but it is not a poison produced by the actual lizard.

Apparently no-one read the links I posted in reply to rivas' post.

http://www.desertusa.com/sep97/du_gilamonster.html

The Gila Monster is one of only two species of venomous lizards]a nerve toxin[/B], from glands in the lower jaw. The toxin is not injected like that of the snake, but flows into the wound as the lizard chews on its victim. While the bite can overpower predators and prey, it is rarely fatal to humans.

http://www.geo-outdoors.info/poisonous_lizards.htm

The only poisonous lizard known to the world is native to the desert southwest of the US and Mexico. Known as the Gila Monster or Beaded Lizard, ...

The Komodo is not poisonous. The Gila is. And the two species of Gila are the only poisonous lizards in the world.

I hope this settles that.

+1 for DePlano.

Mini-quotes anyone?

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:24 pm

ghettoside wrote:Apparently no-one read the links I posted in reply to rivas' post.

I don't believe anyone disagreed with you after that link...

Dan · Post by **Dan** » Sat May 20, 2006 6:06 pm

Joint Chiefs of Staff wrote:Must be mating season for the lizards were out in hundreds today just outside one of the desert camps. I heard they were poisonous if bitten //shrug//. All I know is that these bad boys are fast and freakin' mean.

those are for sure some fat ones,

and thanks for the pics Patrick,very cool stuff

thepieman · Post by **thepieman** » Sat May 20, 2006 7:08 pm

Jamie_R wrote:nah ... wouldn't touch ours

No not unless it wanted to be a CDC disection candidate.

blebs · Post by **blebs** » Sat May 20, 2006 8:46 pm

Pat are you getting so bored that you have to pick on the wildlife now?

Izzo · Post by **Izzo** » Sat May 20, 2006 9:27 pm

thepieman wrote:While the Komodo Dragon is a huge lizard its saliva is REALLY poisonous. It kills its prey (Not our prey) almost right away.
The captured ones do not have this because they aren't in their environment. Its like a bacteria or virus.

A komodo at our local zoo

ghettoside · Post by **ghettoside** » Sat May 20, 2006 10:41 pm

I used to catch these critters near the Braidwood, IL Nuclear Plant, "Common Five Lined Skinks" Eumeces fasciatus:

I used to crack rocks (fossil hunting) in an area outside the nuke plant, saw these critters and caught a few. Got caught by security eventually though and they let me go but had to promise not to return! Lol, I had a 5-gal bucket of cracked rocks w/ various fossils- and a small bird cage with 5 skinks....

David · Post by **David** » Sat May 20, 2006 11:23 pm

They are not poisonous...... They appear to be of the genus Uromastyx. Believe it or not, they make good pets if you can give them enough heat.

ghettoside · Post by **ghettoside** » Sat May 20, 2006 11:33 pm

Hell_Yes wrote:They are not poisonous...... They appear to be of the genus Uromastyx. Believe it or not, they make good pets if you can give them enough heat.

no argument here bro!

yups they do make good pets.

i had sveral, and a bunch of chameleons too.

LMAO, just rememebered, I lost a few chameleons once at the same time i was keeping those skinks- had this forest type paneling in the hallway, hadda be at least a year later, was stoned and found one stuck to the paneling all dryed out and hard lol. never did find the other 3 that escapes from my room, i had 'em living in some potted plants in my bedroom

them skinks were fast, it was fun catching them

David · Post by **David** » Sat May 20, 2006 11:50 pm

I had a collection of lizards in the past. Chiefly vegetarian since I cannot bring myself to offer live food. Although I never owned a uromastyx, they would have fell nicely into said collection.

ghettoside · Post by **ghettoside** » Sat May 20, 2006 11:56 pm

Hell_Yes wrote:I had a collection of lizards in the past. Chiefly vegetarian since I cannot bring myself to offer live food. Although I never owned a uromastyx, they would have fell nicely into said collection.

yups they would've fit in nice.

they're a close relative of the six line race runner

if ya ever decise to start another collection lemme know, i'll go catch ya a few and ship 'em to ya if ya pay shipping

Needlefreak · Post by **Needlefreak** » Sun May 21, 2006 5:08 am

My two month old Veiled Chameleon..MoJo..

http://i7.cashmoneyuploads.com/img/DSCN0969d8b5.jpg

ghettoside · Post by **ghettoside** » Sun May 21, 2006 5:43 am

Needlefreak wrote:My two month old Veiled Chameleon..MoJo..

http://i7.cashmoneyuploads.com/img/DSCN0969d8b5.jpg

cool!

Joint Chiefs of Staff · Sun May 21, 2006 7:12 am

blebs99 wrote:Pat are you getting so bored that you have to pick on the wildlife now?

I had some time on my hands between desert camps. I couldn't help to stop when I saw about a dozen of those guys running in various directions. Guess it didn't help I was doing 100 km/h thur their turf.

Too bad I left my digital cam at home. I cursed myself because I also pack it into my backpack at night. Oh well, my camera did a fine enough job.