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Where's the WMDs?

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A interesting insiders view.


http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadAr ... p?ID=20154
Operation Desert Fox was a perfect example of the uselessness of strike operations. Iraqis have told me that the WMD destruction and movement started just after Operation Desert Fox, since after all, who would be so stupid as to start a bombing campaign and just stop.

It was only after Saddam realized that President Clinton lacked the nerve for anything more than a temper-tantrum demonstration that he knew the doors were wide open for him to continue his weapons program. We didn’t break his will, we didn’t destroy his weapons making capability (The Iraqis simply moved most of the precision machinery out prior to the strikes, then rebuilt the buildings), but we did kill some Iraqi bystanders, just so President Clinton could say “something must be done, so I did something.”

General Zinni, Commander of CENTCOM, and no other senior officer had any problem with this fecklessness. They apparently bought into the notion that wars are meant to be managed and not waged. The warriors coming into the military post 9/11 deserve true warriors at the top. I believe the house cleaning among the senior military leadership started by the Secretary of Defense should continue full force. If not across the board, then definitely in the military intelligence field.
Much more in the link.


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Splooge, I like you :D
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Better question..... Where is Osama bin-Laden?

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Good grief...you can't find a proxy that can last a night? LOL
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downhill wrote:Good grief...you can't find a proxy that can last a night? LOL

A Proxy is hard to find.
Respect it.
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ScottE wrote:A Proxy is hard to find.
Maybe a good one...but other than that, they are a dime a dozen..
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Splooge, let me know if you have a hard time finding reliable proxies, I'll hook you up :D
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Prey521 wrote:Splooge, let me know if you have a hard time finding reliable proxies, I'll hook you up :D
ah nm....

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Prey521 wrote:Splooge, let me know if you have a hard time finding reliable proxies, I'll hook you up :D
No doubt, but be careful, Prey....because not all are as masked as you think. You could be in trouble and not know it. However we will and have already noted a few goofs.

That said, since you brought it up, what kind of person would hid behind a proxy? What is it that brings up such insecurities that said member can't voice his opinions and not be afraid of ridicule or.....he has to stoop to using a proxy to keep from being banned because he/she doesn't seem to be able to have the vocabulary needed for diplomacy.

Is it really a fear of being owned?

Then again, maybe it's a low emotional IQ number. It's certainly something to wonder about, isn't it. :)
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Prey521 wrote:Splooge, I like you :D

You really like Splooge? There are many men in San Francisco who would like to meet you!




Just kidding.
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downhill wrote:Maybe a good one...but other than that, they are a dime a dozen..
What Proxy? why waste the good ones.




And, yes, my IQ and self esteme are very low.
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downhill wrote:No doubt, but be careful, Prey....because not all are as masked as you think. You could be in trouble and not know it. However we will and have already noted a few goofs.

That said, since you brought it up, what kind of person would hid behind a proxy? What is it that brings up such insecurities that said member can't voice his opinions and not be afraid of ridicule or.....he has to stoop to using a proxy to keep from being banned because he/she doesn't seem to be able to have the vocabulary needed for diplomacy.

Is it really a fear of being owned?

Then again, maybe it's a low emotional IQ number. It's certainly something to wonder about, isn't it. :)
You read too much into things lol
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Izzo wrote:Funny stuff


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hahaha this guy is so good no wonder why we have such crappy intelligence...he spots all this crap over there and WHOOPS those swippewy Iwaqi's awways got away with the cawwots!
He sounds like a Keystone cop! Always chasing after Charlie Chaplin never able to catch him...poor guy..If I were him I'd hide my head in shame since he was sent there to do a job and never could pin it down.


At some point they would flood the room with people, and in the confusion abscond with the revealing documents
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The Iraqis later flooded the room, and the document disappeared. Score one for the Iraqis.
but at some point, the Iraqis would hold up their guns and keep us out.

The Iraqis claimed the gate hadn’t been opened in months, but there was freshly ground rust at the gate hinges. There was a photo from overhead showing tractor trailers with missiles in the trailers leaving the facility
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Tariq changed the meaning so smoking gun referred to the bullet, in this case the WMD, knowing that as long as there were armed guards between us and the weapons, we would never be able to “find,” as in “put our hands on,” the weapons of mass destruction.

Those silly magical Iraqis...they must have some Leprechaun in them!

The Iraqis claimed that we had inspected the facilities a year earlier, so we didn’t need to inspect it again.
This was also the site where the Iraqi official on the UNSCOM helicopter tried to grab the control and almost made the aircraft crash.
This explained why the Iraqis caused the problems with the helicopter, to keep it from flying to the other side of the mountain.
Did we actually PAY these guys??
but the Iraqi had to go to the effort of digging out an underground bunker akin to our Cheyenne Mountain headquarters, just so they could store rainwater.
Isn't Iraq a desert? I could swear I've seen Baghdaddy and JCOS talking about Sandstorms and stuff...why wouldn't they protect something as precious as water in a desert. Hmm I dunno..maybe the temeratures underground are cooler then keeping them above ground in 140degree heat?

The security officer didn’t mention what they were doing, but I would say uranium enrichment is the most logical pick
Oh a specialist that "PICKS" stuff. COOL!!!!
These are only some of the observations of one inspector. I know of other inspections where there were clear indicators the Iraqis were hiding weapons from the inspectors.


Now he is giving second hand info.
I believe Saddam planned for a U.S. invasion after President Bush’s speech at West Point in 2002. One of the steps taken was to prepare the younger generation of the security services with English so they could infiltrate our ranks
While we infiltrated their ranks with you at the same time!!?? How dare they!!!! The NERVE!!!!

Those that say there were no weapons have to prove that Saddam had a change of heart. I await their evidence with interest
Still waiting on yours there too buddy! Check your back pocket you mighta left it there in the washer.
and they had helped us bring down the Soviet Union with oil price manipulation
Who says Oil control in the middle east is nothing important to us!!!!!!

Chemical weapons were critical to warding off hoards of Iranian fighters, and the Iraqis knew they would always be in a position of weakness against Israel without nuclear weapons. The United States kept nuclear weapons to deter the Soviet Union, but we would deny the same logic for Iraq?
Wow a logical answer from you for once..Im proud of you! So if they had WMD's whats the problem anyways then?

As I said earlier, I knew the Iraqis would never cooperate, so the inspections became a matter of illustrating this non-cooperation for the Security Council and the rest of the world. No manipulation or fabrication was necessary. There was a sufficient percentage of defectors with accurate information to ensure that we would catch the Iraqis in the act.
Puhleez don't tell me you went to that Chalabi guy!?
On the post-war weapons hunt, the arrogance and hubris of the intelligence community is such that they can’t entertain the possibility that they just failed to find the weapons because the Iraqis did a good job cleaning up prior to their arrival. This reminds me of the police chief who announced on television plans to raid a secret drug factor on the outskirts of town. At the time appointed, the police, all twelve of them, lined up behind each other at the front door, knocked and waiting for the druggies to answer, as protocol required. After ten minute of toilet flushing and back-door slamming, somebody came to the front door in a bathrobe and explained he had been in the shower. The police took his story at face value, even though his was dry as a bone, then police proceeded to inspect the premises ensuring that the legal, moral , ethnic, human, and animal rights, and also the national dignity, of the druggies was preserved. After a search, the police chief announced THERE WERE NO STOCKPILES of drugs at the inspected site. Anyone care to move to this city?

Is this guy serious!!!! OMG I guess he missed the 20kilos of Coke that just blew past the Texas border a few months ago! We never have any corrupt cops helping druglords here! (or CIA agents trafficking heroin in Vietnam either shhhhhhhh)
Could the assessments of Iraq’s weapons program been off? I am sure there were some marginal details that were incorrect, but on the matter of whether Iraq had a program, the error was not with the pre-war assessment, the error was with the weapons hunt.


That wouldn't be because YOU were on this weapons hunt would it?
During my eight months of counterinfiltration duty, we had 50 local Iraqis working on our post who were murdered for collaborating. Of the more than 150 local employees our team identified as security threats, the most sophisticated infiltrators came from the Baath Party. This was just one post, yet the DIA believes no one was afraid to talk, even though scientists who were cooperating with ISG were murdered.


hey wait a minute...don't we kill spies and traitors here too!? Oh wait..no thats not us...that was the communists when they caught our spies wasn't it?I forget now.

I believe the Iraqis had a WMD program, and I am not changing my story, no matter how many times Chris Matthews hyperventilates
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Prey521 wrote:You read too much into things lol
Is that right? I'll be durned...

After some of the things sent my way over the course of a couple of years, and by wondering about that most interesting sig, that you were beginning to warm up!


Back peddling is such fun as long as there aren't any obstacles in our way. :eek:

ToxicSpooge....I do not think you have a low IQ. Just the opposite in fact.
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ToxicSplooge wrote:A interesting insiders view.


http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadAr ... p?ID=20154



Much more in the link.


Spare the complaints of the messenger.

everyone here chooses what they post... so u finding random crap and posting it on here.. i think we can complain to you for what you choose.

or do you think it is some duty of yours to overload us with one sided information? Oh thank you kind soul for enlightening me with this democrat/liberal hating articles.. I have seen the error of my ways and have become a born again republican... :rolleyes:
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Meggie wrote:everyone here chooses what they post... so u finding random crap and posting it on here.. i think we can complain to you for what you choose.

or do you think it is some duty of yours to overload us with one sided information? Oh thank you kind soul for enlightening me with this democrat/liberal hating articles.. I have seen the error of my ways and have become a born again republican... :rolleyes:
GH does the same thing and I've never heard you complain about it....so are you only complaining cuz Splooges links are attacking liberals?
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Prey521 wrote:GH does the same thing and I've never heard you complain about it....so are you only complaining cuz Splooges links are attacking liberals?
Let GH post 5-10 articles with extreme one sidedness in one day.. he will get his backlash too.
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well i just did a search and counted I started 7 religious/political threads over past 2 weeks about one every other day...the rest were just funnies and weird stories.

he did 7-10 in an hour or so...so i think big difference.
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Meggie wrote:Let GH post 5-10 articles with extreme one sidedness in one day.. he will get his backlash too.
I can show you about 200 lol
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Prey521 wrote:I can show you about 200 lol

Not from 1 day though. We know you can read better than that.
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Prey521 wrote:I can show you about 200 lol
this guys got a 27 postcount.. If he posted as many articles about free Xboxes and ipods as he has about how bad liberals/democrats are he would have been banned by now.
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Meggie wrote:this guys got a 27 postcount.. If he posted as many articles about free Xboxes and ipods as he has about how bad liberals/democrats are he would have been banned by now.

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6. No flaming, or bombing forums or threads with pointless posts.
Granted, about 9/10ths of the forum population do it, but still. You just asked what rule you broke. *shrugs*
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Paft wrote:Granted, about 9/10ths of the forum population do it, but still. You just asked what rule you broke. *shrugs*
If threads with pointless posts was enforced, Sam would have been ousted years ago!! :p
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Paft wrote:Granted, about 9/10ths of the forum population do it, but still. You just asked what rule you broke. *shrugs*

Do elaborate on how you feel any of what I have posted tonight was pointless, or flaming. (of course pointless to you is topical to your brother)

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Prey521 wrote:If threads with pointless posts was enforced, Sam would have been ousted years ago!! :p

WHY YOU GOTTA PICK ON SAMMY, WHAT YOU HATE JESUS NOW TOO!!!!!!

YOU ONLY HATE OTHERS AND THEIR GODS BECAUSE YOU FAILED IN LIFE AS A BALLERINA!
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YARDofSTUF wrote:WHY YOU GOTTA PICK ON SAMMY, WHAT YOU HATE JESUS NOW TOO!!!!!!

YOU ONLY HATE OTHERS AND THEIR GODS BECAUSE YOU FAILED IN LIFE AS A BALLERINA!

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YARDofSTUF wrote:WHY YOU GOTTA PICK ON SAMMY, WHAT YOU HATE JESUS NOW TOO!!!!!!

YOU ONLY HATE OTHERS AND THEIR GODS BECAUSE YOU FAILED IN LIFE AS A BALLERINA!
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You make Phillip cry. As well as upsetting Meggie and Paft!
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ToxicSplooge wrote:Do elaborate on how you feel any of what I have posted tonight was pointless, or flaming. (of course pointless to you is topical to your brother)

Keep in mind the plank in your eye!
I'm not saying specifically that what you posted was pointless to me. My only point was that, when you take into account your recent join date and the flood of political posts that you made when you joined, the point behind the posts can be lost.

There's a lot of people who come on SpeedGuide just to beat a dead political horse and to try to rile up the members, and so when a majority of a member's first posts are on the topic second most likely to rile up SG members (Only behind religion in that regard), then people get suspicious.

Didn't mean to offend.
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ToxicSplooge wrote:You make Phillip cry. As well as upsetting Meggie and Paft!

I didnt use the caps button, I held shift.
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YARDofSTUF wrote:WHY YOU GOTTA PICK ON SAMMY, WHAT YOU HATE JESUS NOW TOO!!!!!!

YOU ONLY HATE OTHERS AND THEIR GODS BECAUSE YOU FAILED IN LIFE AS A BALLERINA!
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I don't think there was anything wrong with the posts at all, I think the reasons for posting them weren't good and I think it was intentionally done. You didn't like what someone posted that was a current event and to retaliate you machine gunned those other articles. I know I just go to Google news and just browse the headlines...you must have scoured up any old site or blog you could get your hands on to find this stuff. If I post anything..its a current event that is something new that I have never seen before. Its not my fault that the majority of stuff coming out in the news is Anti-bush or anti-anything else. Remember dude...60% of the country is dissatisfied with this war, I would imagine 75% of the WORLD and out of that 60% & 75%there will be people, reporters and anyone else thats going to Dig the dirt on our president or anything else thats wrong or being done wrong. Watch and see the ****storm that is going to ensue from this major screw-up. This isn't just a lie about a Blow-job we are talking about here anymore..Its Billions of dollars and american lives.
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thepieman wrote:I don't think there was anything wrong with the posts at all, I think the reasons for posting them weren't good and I think it was intentionally done. You didn't like what someone posted that was a current event and to retaliate you machine gunned those other articles. I know I just go to Google news and just browse the headlines...you must have scoured up any old site or blog you could get your hands on to find this stuff. If I post anything..its a current event that is something new that I have never seen before. Its not my fault that the majority of stuff coming out in the news is Anti-bush or anti-anything else. Remember dude...60% of the country is dissatisfied with this war, I would imagine 75% of the WORLD and out of that 60% & 75%there will be people, reporters and anyone else thats going to Dig the dirt on our president or anything else thats wrong or being done wrong. Watch and see the ****storm that is going to ensue from this major screw-up. This isn't just a lie about a Blow-job we are talking about here anymore..Its Billions of dollars and american lives.
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replace religious with political and i would say you would have broken the rule. I wasnt insinuating that you should be banned, i was implying that your percentage of threads that had to do with bashing liberals/democrats was so high that if it had been threads about free ipods (threads started by people with a one or 2 post count. ) u would have been banned.
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ToxicSplooge wrote:Please feel free to explain which rule has been broken by posting topical conversation to this general forum.




https://www.speedguide.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=85416

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Multiple nyms......

Becase your using a proxy doesn't exaclty hid what your doing. Again, I would have to question why you would do it unless you can't take the heat when others disagree with you. Hiding behiding another nym, somewhat fixes this insecurity.
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downhill wrote:Multiple nyms......

If your trying to type out Name, and assign the breaking of that rule to me, then your wrong.



You are correct that I am insecure, emotionally, physically and mentally. You are a astute Internet psychologist.




get some of that I.P.?
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ToxicSplooge wrote: You are correct that I am insecure, emotionally, physically and mentally. You are a astute Internet psychologist.
all your posts make sense now..
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ToxicSplooge wrote:If your trying to type out Name, and assign the breaking of that rule to me, then your wrong.



You are correct that I am insecure, emotionally, physically and mentally. You are a astute Internet psychologist.




get some of that I.P.?
Thank you......but you are putting words in where I didn't say....physically or mentally. Nor do I believe either would be correct.

All your logins are proxies.........that's a given that your somebody masquarading for some reason. I should also add "for fun" in there as I'm sure that's part of the equation.
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