Teen hacker goes too far

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Wed May 25, 2005 10:33 am

Hackers can be such morons.

A TEEN who tried to bump up his grades to an A by hacking into his school’s computer system, accidentally revealed his cunning plan to officials.
It seemed like a good idea; break into the school’s network and change your grade to an A. However, due to a feature in the school’s record keeping software, he actually managed to turn everyone else’s grade into an A.

Then it turned out that by a strange quirk in the districts record keeping software that he managed to also make every kid in the District a certified genius.

Staff at the Natomas Unified School District smelt a rat when they found that they were suddenly teaching 18,697 top scholars, instead of the usual bunch of no-hopers.

Natomas staff are a bit clued up on hacking at the moment, because there have been four separate incidents of hacking into school computers in the Sacramento area.

Seven students have been charged or are under nvestigation by school or law enforcement officials.

Collaring the teen and the bloke who he advised, apparently was not difficult.

He pleaded guilty to two misdemeanour charges in Sacramento Juvenile Court. He was sentenced to 100 hours of community service and six months' informal probation.

fastchevy · Post by **fastchevy** » Wed May 25, 2005 11:10 am

John wrote:"Staff at the Natomas Unified School District smelt a rat when they found that they were suddenly teaching 18,697 top scholars, instead of the usual bunch of no-hopers."

Reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal nice.

Such pride in their student body huh?

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Wed May 25, 2005 11:16 am

fastchevy wrote:
Such pride in their student body huh?

I was thinking the same thing.

Immortal · Post by **Immortal** » Wed May 25, 2005 12:19 pm

I'm still a no hoper...

DaddyLongLeg · Post by **DaddyLongLeg** » Wed May 25, 2005 12:58 pm

If this kid is smart enough to hack into his schools computer, he should be smart enough to get an A on his own.

Roody · Post by **Roody** » Wed May 25, 2005 1:31 pm

DaddyLongLeg wrote:If this kid is smart enough to hack into his schools computer, he should be smart enough to get an A on his own.

One would think, but like I said originally its amazing how dumb these hackers can be.

TonyT · Post by **TonyT** » Wed May 25, 2005 1:32 pm

DaddyLongLeg wrote:If this kid is smart enough to hack into his schools computer, he should be smart enough to get an A on his own.

Don't get fooled anymore into believing that criminals are smart. It's just an apparancy that some criminals are smart. The common denominator of all criminality is stupidity.

It does NOT require brightness or being smart to hack into computers, it ONLY requires a small amount of knowledge of what to do and the means to do it.

Knowledge (knowing what to do) does not equate to being smart or bright. Knowledge is just data.

Knowledge has 2 partners, e.g. Responsibility & Control. One cannot have an increase or decrease without the other 2 increasing or decreasing, else bad things will happen to you or others.

The criminal can have an increase in knowledge and no increase in responsibiliy for the knowledge and no increase in his ability to control that knowledge and thus he appears to be smart, when in fact he is just plain stupid, for being bright means knowing that one should be responsible and have some control. When he cannot control what he does he is irresponsible.

The criminal ALWAYS leaves clues! That's because he is stupid! And smart people do not commit crimes!

mountainman · Post by **mountainman** » Wed May 25, 2005 1:39 pm

John wrote:"Staff at the Natomas Unified School District smelt a rat when they found that they were suddenly teaching 18,697 top scholars, instead of the usual bunch of no-hopers."

Reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal nice.

It is what it is, John.

tao_jones · Post by **tao_jones** » Wed May 25, 2005 1:51 pm

John wrote:"Staff at the Natomas Unified School District smelt a rat when they found that they were suddenly teaching 18,697 top scholars, instead of the usual bunch of no-hopers."

Reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal nice.

lael007 · Post by **lael007** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:22 pm

TonyT wrote:Don't get fooled anymore into believing that criminals are smart. It's just an apparancy that some criminals are smart. The common denominator of all criminality is stupidity.

It does NOT require brightness or being smart to hack into computers, it ONLY requires a small amount of knowledge of what to do and the means to do it.

Knowledge (knowing what to do) does not equate to being smart or bright. Knowledge is just data.

Knowledge has 2 partners, e.g. Responsibility & Control. One cannot have an increase or decrease without the other 2 increasing or decreasing, else bad things will happen to you or others.

The criminal can have an increase in knowledge and no increase in responsibiliy for the knowledge and no increase in his ability to control that knowledge and thus he appears to be smart, when in fact he is just plain stupid, for being bright means knowing that one should be responsible and have some control. When he cannot control what he does he is irresponsible.

The criminal ALWAYS leaves clues! That's because he is stupid! And smart people do not commit crimes!

Very nicely stated out!

DaddyLongLeg · Post by **DaddyLongLeg** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:29 pm

TonyT wrote:Don't get fooled anymore into believing that criminals are smart. It's just an apparancy that some criminals are smart. The common denominator of all criminality is stupidity.

It does NOT require brightness or being smart to hack into computers, it ONLY requires a small amount of knowledge of what to do and the means to do it.

Knowledge (knowing what to do) does not equate to being smart or bright. Knowledge is just data.

Knowledge has 2 partners, e.g. Responsibility & Control. One cannot have an increase or decrease without the other 2 increasing or decreasing, else bad things will happen to you or others.

The criminal can have an increase in knowledge and no increase in responsibiliy for the knowledge and no increase in his ability to control that knowledge and thus he appears to be smart, when in fact he is just plain stupid, for being bright means knowing that one should be responsible and have some control. When he cannot control what he does he is irresponsible.

The criminal ALWAYS leaves clues! That's because he is stupid! And smart people do not commit crimes!

Guess Roody and yourself are right. Didn't really look at it like that. I just wouldn't know were to begin (to hack into something). I'm extreemly uneducated when it comes to computers (setting things up, virus', etc.) so I jump to the conclusion that someone would have to be pretty smart to pull something like this off (although he didn't) or even attempt it.

Spammy · Post by **Spammy** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:34 pm

I can hack a lugie

Just can't spell it

DaddyLongLeg · Post by **DaddyLongLeg** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:37 pm

Spammy wrote:I can hack a lugie

Just can't spell it

TonyT · Post by **TonyT** » Wed May 25, 2005 5:18 pm

DaddyLongLeg wrote:Guess Roody and yourself are right. Didn't really look at it like that. I just wouldn't know were to begin (to hack into something). I'm extreemly uneducated when it comes to computers (setting things up, virus', etc.) so I jump to the conclusion that someone would have to be pretty smart to pull something like this off (although he didn't) or even attempt it.

Having a simple skill or some simple knowledge and the means to use it can make anybody look like a genious to one who does not posess that knowledge.

For example, an auto mechanic whose job is fixing air conditioners only on Ford Tauruses all day long may posess a cupful of knowledge about auto air conditioning and a tiny bit of knowledge about the Ford Taurus, but to the customer whose car he services he appears to be a wonderboy and to the head mechanic he is just a rookie in car school. It does not mean that his ability is small, or that what skills he has are minimal, and it does not belittle the guy either, it just demonstrates that to the layman he appears to be a genious.

Post by **YeOldeStonecat** » Wed May 25, 2005 5:35 pm

Darwinism kicking in at an early age.

Indy · Post by **Indy** » Wed May 25, 2005 5:43 pm

I think the appropriate term would not be 'hacker' but 'script kiddie'

downhill · Post by **downhill** » Wed May 25, 2005 5:45 pm

TonyT wrote:Don't get fooled anymore into believing that criminals are smart. It's just an apparancy that some criminals are smart. The common denominator of all criminality is stupidity.

It does NOT require brightness or being smart to hack into computers, it ONLY requires a small amount of knowledge of what to do and the means to do it.

Knowledge (knowing what to do) does not equate to being smart or bright. Knowledge is just data.

Knowledge has 2 partners, e.g. Responsibility & Control. One cannot have an increase or decrease without the other 2 increasing or decreasing, else bad things will happen to you or others.

The criminal can have an increase in knowledge and no increase in responsibiliy for the knowledge and no increase in his ability to control that knowledge and thus he appears to be smart, when in fact he is just plain stupid, for being bright means knowing that one should be responsible and have some control. When he cannot control what he does he is irresponsible.

The criminal ALWAYS leaves clues! That's because he is stupid! And smart people do not commit crimes!

Huh? Tony, didn't you post once, that criminals are lazy? It can be both for some (low iq) but not all...

TonyT · Post by **TonyT** » Wed May 25, 2005 10:52 pm

downhill wrote:Huh? Tony, didn't you post once, that criminals are lazy? It can be both for some (low iq) but not all...

I may have said s/g about criminals being lazy as that's a stat that is evident. But low iq or high iq have little to do with actual intelligence or being smart or stupid. IQ measures potential based on known knowledge. But iq does not measure how smart or stupid a person is.

Smart, intelligent, etc means ability to think in difference & similarities while stupid, dull is thinking in identities, meaning a=a=a.

Smartness implies that one can apply knowledge, rationally. All crime is irrational. This does not mean that all destructive acts are irrational because killing the guy who is trying to kill your bekloved wife is not irrational, it's not a crime to do so. And fiquring out how to kill someone (just because they look wierd) and not get caught, is not smartness, that is irrational.

There are not now nor have there ever been any smart criminals. There are, and have been criminals who may have been brighter than some people who are/were not criminals, but even so, the criminals were stupid and irrational relative to their own intelligence.

Some say Hitler was smart. He wasn't. He only appeared to be intelligent because he was in a position of power. He was actually a raving psychotic lunatic. He had the war won in 1939 and Germany at its peak, and what followed was pure stupidity. (fyi I do not dig hitler and is only an example of the "smart criminal")

Mad_Haggis · Post by **Mad_Haggis** » Wed May 25, 2005 10:54 pm

ummmmm..... the free phone call?

Randy · Post by **Randy** » Wed May 25, 2005 11:30 pm

DaddyLongLeg wrote:If this kid is smart enough to hack into his schools computer, he should be smart enough to get an A on his own.

dont under estimate the ever present stupidity of the educational system

Joel · Post by **Joel** » Thu May 26, 2005 12:59 am

i wish i were that leet.

CiscoKid · Post by **CiscoKid** » Thu May 26, 2005 1:12 am

DaddyLongLeg wrote:If this kid is smart enough to hack into his schools computer, he should be smart enough to get an A on his own.

You'd be suprised...

If the Natomis district is anything like Stockton unified...

Junior year in High school I took net essentials. The second part of the year we were allowed to work on the schools network. The computers ALL over the school were so infested with viruses it was sickening, I wouldn't be suprised if I could have planted backdoors on the servers and gateways untill I owned the network. Never tried and prolly never would have even if I thought of it