Exit Redhat Enter Fedora

greEd · Post by **greEd** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:49 am

I thought, even though this news is a couple days old, I haven't seen anyone post what their plans are for migration. I'm sure we have a few Redhat users here. I use Redhat on one of my home systems and will plan a migration to Fedora on it. Though some of the businesses I do work for are fretting about the cost of RHEL. What are your thoughts?

Dear greEd,

Thank you for being a Red Hat Network customer.

This e-mail provides you with important information about the upcoming
discontinuation of Red Hat Linux, and resources to assist you with your
migration to another Red Hat solution.

As previously communicated, Red Hat will discontinue maintenance and
errata support for Red Hat Linux 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 and 8.0 as of December
31, 2003. Red Hat will discontinue maintenance and errata support for
Red Hat Linux 9 as of April 30, 2004. Red Hat does not plan to release
another product in the Red Hat Linux line.

With the recent announcement of Red Hat Enterprise Linux v.3, you'll
find migrating to Enterprise Linux appealing. We understand
that transitioning to another Red Hat solution requires careful planning
and implementation. We have created a migration plan for Red Hat Network
customers to help make the transition as simple and seamless as
possible. Details:

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If you purchase Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS or ES Basic before February
28, 2004, you will receive 50% off the price for two years.[*] (That's two
years for the price of one.)

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In addition, we have created a Red Hat Linux Migration Resource Center
to address your migration planning and other questions, such as:

* What are best practices for implementing the migration to Red Hat
Enterprise Linux?

* Are there other migration alternatives?

* How do I purchase Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS or ES Basic at the price
above?

* What if my paid subscription to RHN extends past April 30, 2004?

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Find out more about your migration options with product comparisons,
whitepapers and documentation at the Red Hat Linux Migration Resource
Center:

http://www.redhat.com/solutions/migration/rhl/rhn

Or read the FAQ written especially for Red Hat Network customers:

https://rhn.redhat.com/help/rhlmigrationfaq/

Sincerely,

Red Hat, Inc.

[*] Limit 10 units. Higher volume purchase inquiries should contact a
regional Red Hat sales representative. Contact numbers available at
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--the Red Hat Network Team

master7 · Post by **master7** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:06 pm

Red Hat was my first Linux distro, I loved it.
Even though I have migrated past it, I learned everything I know on it. Sad to see it go.

Paft · Post by **Paft** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 2:53 pm

Backstab the community, the community will backstab you.

I think RH made a huge mistake here, and time will show them that.

cyberskye · Post by **cyberskye** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 11:38 am

greEd - my company is moving to FreeBSD because of the whole SCO mess anyway. We used FreeBSD for internet servers, now it'll end up on our dbservers too.
Redhat has made soem interesteing choices in their distro - gcc versions specifically. I don't get the urgency of this move by RH as I thought they were trying to ramp up enterprise adoption. This makes the TCO model a little scewed. With M$ competitive pricing - just tell your AE that you are looking at Linux and pricing drops faster than Walmart - it might push folks thta were teetering back to the evil empire.

Paft - notice that it was always Redhat.com (not .org) - they are a business entity striving to profit. They will still offer a free version, just won't have a lot of the mgmtm capabilities that enterprises would want.

Ghosthunter · Post by **Ghosthunter** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:15 pm

Originally posted by cyberskye
greEd - my company is moving to FreeBSD because of the whole SCO mess anyway. We used FreeBSD for internet servers, now it'll end up on our dbservers too.
Redhat has made soem interesteing choices in their distro - gcc versions specifically. I don't get the urgency of this move by RH as I thought they were trying to ramp up enterprise adoption. This makes the TCO model a little scewed. With M$ competitive pricing - just tell your AE that you are looking at Linux and pricing drops faster than Walmart - it might push folks thta were teetering back to the evil empire.

Paft - notice that it was always Redhat.com (not .org) - they are a business entity striving to profit. They will still offer a free version, just won't have a lot of the mgmtm capabilities that enterprises would want.

Yep we are looking at Freebsd as well

I really dont know much about it

cyberskye · Post by **cyberskye** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 4:31 am

Yep we are looking at Freebsd as well

I really dont know much about it

Very stable (meaning regular release schedule, dedicated development teams), very fast, very well documented.

Yahoo.com, hotmail.com (hehe) and a lot of other high-volume sites ran FreeBSD.

Download the latest ISO and start playing. The "ports collection" is what RH would like rpm to be.

You gotta be ready to RTFM - even newbie forums are less forgiving than linux forums...you better have done the homework.

I've played with Solaris (mostly) RH, FreeBSD, OpenBSD - they are 80% similar and the rest comes easy if you work with it every day.

YARDofSTUF · Post by **YARDofSTUF** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 7:11 am

suse slackware, and debian would be in my choices as well

Stu · Post by **Stu** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 7:28 am

I'm happy enough to use Gentoo. They're working on a Gentoo BSD and Gentoo MacOS X as well ( http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/ ), so by the time the SCO case gets finished court (it won't see the inside of a court room until like 2005, maybe it'll be done by the end of 2006) and if IBM loses (fat chance there), migrating to BSD won't be a problem at all. In fact, compiling the whole system from source will only take a few hours--since the new 64 bit 6 Ghz Opterons will be out by then.

cyberskye · Post by **cyberskye** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 5:05 pm

I'll have to have a peek at that Stu. Thought it was just a linux distro.

greEd · Post by **greEd** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:03 pm

Good to see some reply's ... when I first heard about the decision to start "enterprising" Linux my take was much like Paft's but as cyberskye stated they are and have always been a company striving for profit and I think in this case they are going to achive it, and as many can attest it is a great ease for windows users into a nix environment.

As far as SCO goes, that is something that both infuriates me for what it is doing to the community and makes me laugh at the same time that it is something I don't see SCO fully pulling off.

Things are definitely looking rocky for the open source community in many fronts right now ... look at novell's recent aquisition of SuSE.

All in all if you are a supporter of open source I would keep a close eye on everything that's going on, it's going to be interesting.