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cable internet without modem???
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2002 1:59 pm
by shrapnel
Hi
My local cable operator is offering cable internet.He claims that I dont require a cable modem and all that I will require will be a LAN or NIC card.
Is he talking thru his hat?
If its possible,will there will be any major probs I may face?
Regards
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2002 2:10 pm
by Immortal
this is either a new trend or that he is completely crazy or dumb...
how can u access the internet thru a cable line without a cable modem.. I can see how you might do it by having the cable modem out side of the house and just bring in the cable straight to the line.. but that's just crazy talk...
I don't think he's right tho.... ask again...
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2002 2:33 pm
by MtCableman
Need something to convert the RF and QAM signal to ethernet. It should be a cable modem! I can't think of any other way to do it. I would be careful if this guy thinks that it can be done without a cable modem. If he is wrong I can't imagine how a service call would go!
Re: cable internet without modem???
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2002 2:38 pm
by Noevo
Originally posted by shrapnel
Hi
My local cable operator is offering cable internet.He claims that I dont require a cable modem and all that I will require will be a LAN or NIC card.
Is he talking thru his hat?
If its possible,will there will be any major probs I may face?
Regards
Maybe he just meant you don't need to already have one? Supplied by them in other words.
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2002 5:15 pm
by ace
could an area that uses something like this, if so your gonna have a sweet connection!
http://www.wideopenwest.com/00_frame_cu ... orado.html
just click on wow internet at bottom right and read first paragraph.
all they require is an ethernet
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2002 5:23 pm
by glc1
Who's the provider?
I guess it could be an internal modem, though I don't recall hearing about any internal cable modems. I know there are internal DSL modems.
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2002 5:53 pm
by Mike_W
Here is the text ad:
Surf the net at warp speed! Our High-Speed Internet service delivers an always-on Internet connection with bi-directional speeds up to 10 Mbps. WOW! Internet connects to your PC or Macintosh computer through an Ethernet port; no modem is required. Residential customers can connect up to three computers for one low monthly rate. Our Internet service also includes up to five e-mail accounts, firewall protection and 10 Megabytes of Web space for a personal Web page. We set forth below the Terms and Conditions that govern the use of the WOW! Internet service.
WOW! Internet works in conjunction with all Web browsers and e-mail software including Microsoft Internet Explorer and Netscape Navigator. At your request, WideOpenWest will install the most current version of Netscape Navigator or a WideOpenWest customized version of Microsoft Explorer.
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2002 6:07 pm
by glc1
With a service like WOW, your basically just added to their network, somewhat like adding another client computer to a LAN, so no modem is used. If anyone has any info on exactly how it works, I'd like to hear about it:
glc@c-email.com or PM me.
This is similar in idea to FTTH (no DSL modem use; just NIC), which is offered by some telcos. Very interesting technology.
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2002 11:57 am
by Immortal
if it sounds to good to be true.. .it probably is..
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 3:16 am
by shrapnel
Hi
Thank you all for your feedback.
Mike and glc1 are right.I got back to my cable operator and confirmed that no cable modem will be required at all.He also says that I will get a constant download and upload speed unlike the case with cable modems where the speed decrease drastically with increasing numbers of users.
The interesting thing is, he says this technology is being used to make cable internet more attractive since the overall cost goes down considerably since no expensive cable modem is required.Many people were balking at the investment required in getting a cable modem.Now,even infrequent internet users,for whom dial-up is more cost-effective, are showing interest.
Regards
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2002 9:15 am
by MtCableman
Originally posted by shrapnel
Hi
Thank you all for your feedback.
He also says that I will get a constant download and upload speed unlike the case with cable modems where the speed decrease drastically with increasing numbers of users.
Interesting! Speed decreases "drastically" with increasing numbers of users. Sounds like the advertising hype is at it again. Isn't the Internet a "shared" media? If so then it would slow down drastically with the amount of users. So everyone would have the decrease in speed. Cable companies monitor the circuits to ensure that they aren't overloaded. Some do it better than others! Everyone of the "slow speed" problems I have seen are do to the Internet and the Website visited, not to our system.
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 3:05 am
by shrapnel
Hi
Granted that he may be wrong about the 'constant speed' bit,this technology still makes a better option than the current one which requires cable modems;much more economical and no worse than the cable modem - requiring cable internet.
Sounds like the death-knell for the cable modem manufacturing industry!LOL!
Regards
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2002 3:47 am
by glc1
Originally posted by MtCableman
Speed decreases "drastically" with increasing numbers of users.
Not if your provider acts accordingly- updates and maintains the network.