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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:03 pm
by knightmare
Augustus wrote:is everything satanic to you? LOL
No, but when a band records in a house in order to harness the negative energy, it sends up a red flag. Or possessing an object of such nature. They crave power.
What kind of ghosthunter are you? it is basic occult knowledge. You think Jimmy Page bought Aliester crowley's house because it had a nice view of Lochness lake? No... he was able to harness the power & energies there. That is his own self admittance. Such nice energy there, John Bonham strangled on his own vomit in the house.
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:06 pm
by MissTynker2
thepieman wrote:I dunno about this guy.
I wonder if Charles Manson will ever be executed or not. He was a very bad dude and comes from the same state.
Pie
I believe I can answer that one Pie

..and no...I do not believe he will ever be executed...execution laws were changed at that time in this state...and he happened to sneak in..just as the change began. The laws, rules, have been changed once again wince then...however...once relieved of the death penalty..it can not be re-enstated.. I used to deliver special delivery letters to Spanns ranch when I worked at the Post Office in Chatsworth...what I saw there...trust me..you do NOT even wanna know

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:07 pm
by Kip Patterson
California's got the same quality of Governor as Ohio.
Whatever happened to:
"Let he who is without sin among you cast the first stone".
It is ludicrous to suggest that Arnold, the courts, the prosecutors, and the police in any state are without sin. The Innocence Project has shown that.
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:09 pm
by knightmare
Augustus wrote:that is not true..first of all process church is not satanic, second manson was never a member
yes manson was not a good person and evil IMO...the guy was just a sick bastard who preyed on people he can manipulate
If you want to argue occult matters in another thread, then thats what we should do. This thread is getting jacked like this.
All of your responses are (A) typical of someone of your background.
I base all of my statements on my knowledge and previous lifestyle, before I gave it up. You can deny everything I say. And I fully expected you to intercede on my statements...
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:09 pm
by Brk
Kip Patterson wrote:California's got the same quality of Governor as Ohio.
Whatever happened to:
"Let he who is without sin among you cast the first stone".
It is ludicrous to suggest that Arnold, the courts, the prosecutors, and the police in any state are without sin. The Innocence Project has shown that.
Yeah, if were governor I would let everyone out because I stole some octane booster to sniff one time in high school.
WE R ALL SINNERZ
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:11 pm
by Prey521
Burke wrote:Yeah, if were governor I would let everyone out because I stole some octane booster to sniff one time in high school.
WE R ALL SINNERZ
ROOFLES!
Aside from the sarcasm, you make a good point. Punishment should not be withheld just because the people that are doing the judging/executing are not sinners themselves.
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:44 pm
by knightmare
horsemen_ wrote:Stanley Tookie Williams co-founder of the Crips street gang in Los Angeles over 30 years ago, is facing execution on December 13
alot of people like snoop dog and other black actors are asking/pushing for clemency
In a statement issued to the press, Snoop implied that he felt like if he didn't, he could be the next TuPac...
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:54 pm
by Ghosthunter
knightmare wrote:What kind of ghosthunter are you? it is basic occult knowledge.
one who is not insane and does not accuse everyone they are satanic.
i am sure you think i am a satanist because i listen to heavy metal music, play dungeons & dragons, play online roleplaying games such as Everquest
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:57 pm
by Ghosthunter
knightmare wrote:If you want to argue occult matters in another thread, then thats what we should do. This thread is getting jacked like this.
All of your responses are (A) typical of someone of your background.
I base all of my statements on my knowledge and previous lifestyle, before I gave it up. You can deny everything I say. And I fully expected you to intercede on my statements...
there nothing to argue...you are simply wrong with your facts.
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:59 pm
by ScottE
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:12 pm
by cyberskye
If you put someone in prison then find out you were wrong, you can release them and try and help get their life back on track.
If you kill someone and then find out you were wrong, it's too late.
If the justice system were perfect, I could support the death penalty. Since it obviously isn't, I oppose it.
I obviously don't have all the facts in this particular case, but some of the evidence (including witness testimony) is seen as somewhat quesitonable by legal experts of a broad range of views/political affiliations.
There is no question in my mind that he did some nasty things as head Crip - just appears that some of these particular charges are...questionable.
Skye
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:13 pm
by knightmare
Augustus wrote:one who is not insane and does not accuse everyone they are satanic.
i am sure you think i am a satanist because i listen to heavy metal music, play dungeons & dragons, play online roleplaying games such as Everquest
I don't accuse everyone..
Nobody accused you of being a satanist? Have I? The things you do are kiddie stuff--GH*
Why are you obsessed with what I think is good or evil? Do I break your ballz, because you do not believe certain things.?
Guess you are gonna rally the troops and start a KHC..lol
Burkie, you're off the hook, I just got bumped up to #1
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:28 pm
by Illini25
Kip Patterson wrote:I believe that there was no death penalty when Manson was convicted. Anyone know for sure?

The supreme court stopped all death penalties from 1968 - 1976. Give or take a year. Reason why Manson is alive today. If John Wayne Gacy did his thing on those range of dates, he'd still be alive today. Thank god he didn't.
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:49 pm
by Prey521
I was listening to the radio and they reported that "Tookie" was denied pardon for 2 reasons:
1) He did not ask for forgiveness for the murders he is accused of. Now I can understand this, because asking for forgiveness is an admission of guilt and he's claiming he didnt do it.
2) He refused to turn in other members of the Crips organization. He did not work with law enforcement to rat on his former buddies.
When I heard this, I was like screw that. If I started a lethal organization and later reformed, I would help make right the wrongs I have committed in the past. That includes helping the authorities convict others who were or have been involved. A refusal to do so proves that he does not truly believe that he was wrong in the past, therefore proving that no reform has occurred.
Say your prayers Took!
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:54 pm
by aeonblue11
off with his head!
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:59 pm
by brembo
Load him up in a van, roll into Blood territory and toss him out. Problem solved.
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:03 pm
by thepieman
Prey521 wrote:2) He refused to turn in other members of the Crips organization. He did not work with law enforcement to rat on his former buddies.
When I heard this, I was like screw that. If I started a lethal organization and later reformed, I would help make right the wrongs I have committed in the past. That includes helping the authorities convict others who were or have been involved. A refusal to do so proves that he does not truly believe that he was wrong in the past, therefore proving that no reform has occurred.
Say your prayers Took!
If he did that, and was given a stay of execution there would be no point as it would sign his death warrant in prison for being a rat.
Pie
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:00 pm
by Prey521
What's sad is that the left media has painted Tookie as some sort of changed man thats for non-violence.......has anyone seen pics of the victims he's killed? Funny they dont talk much about them.......after 26 years these victims just disappear out of memory like they dont even matter any more
click here to see his victims. CAUTION!! VERY GRAPHIC
***NWS***
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/t ... ctims.html
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:02 pm
by downhill
Illini25 wrote: 
The supreme court stopped all death penalties from 1968 - 1976. Give or take a year. Reason why Manson is alive today. If John Wayne Gacy did his thing on those range of dates, he'd still be alive today. Thank god he didn't.
Again, Manson wasn't at the murders scenes. Depending on the state, it's pretty hard to get a death sentence if you weren't there. Doesn't matter that he ordered them.
Thanks for looking up them years though. I wasn't sure on that fact.
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:05 pm
by downhill
Prey521 wrote:What's sad is that the left media has painted Tookie as some sort of changed man thats for non-violence.......has anyone seen pics of the victims he's killed? Funny they dont talk much about them.......after 26 years these victims just disappear out of memory like they dont even matter any more
click here to see his victims. CAUTION!! VERY GRAPHIC
***NWS***
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/t ... ctims.html
The Left media?
So a media that shows two sides of a story is "left"?
Good deal...."tunes back up O'Reily".
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:16 pm
by Prey521
2 sides of the story? ROOFLES!
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:25 pm
by downhill
Prey521 wrote:2 sides of the story? ROOFLES!
Do you mind if I ask you what paper or tv new show your watching that shows Williams as a saint?
I've seen none. All accounts I've been either reading or watching, show him as being the a founder of the Crips and mention that indeed it's probably the most feared and violent gang in America. Also mentioned is the murders he was involved with and that he still claims he was innocent. (They all do, don't they?) Then the question of a death sentence for a man who's tried to change the views of American youths.
That's two sides of a coin.
Hard left leaning would mean a hard death senctence years ago. Or life in a gulag.
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:51 pm
by Prey521
My 2 sides of the story comment was more of an Iraq War media coverage jab, you shoulda picked that up, since I copied that unnecessary cheap shot from your constant jabs at the Fox anchors

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:14 am
by downhill
Prey521 wrote:My 2 sides of the story comment was more of an Iraq War media coverage jab, you shoulda picked that up, since I copied that unnecessary cheap shot from your constant jabs at the Fox anchors
Hey....they are deserving!!
Nice save.

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:22 am
by Zerohero
aeonblue11 wrote:off with his head!
lol
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:03 am
by Zerohero
2.01 my time, he should be getting injected as I type this...
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:43 am
by Brk
'Tis a moot point now.
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:09 am
by Mactron
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:33 am
by David
Rev. Jesse Jackson wrote: "I think he feels a comfort in his new legacy as a social transformer,"
Alas, he could no more deny what he created.
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:41 am
by wee96
Death comes to us all, crab.
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:00 am
by Zerohero
He doesn't get a grave either if I'm correct.
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:28 pm
by Illini25
downhill wrote:Again, Manson wasn't at the murders scenes. Depending on the state, it's pretty hard to get a death sentence if you weren't there. Doesn't matter that he ordered them.
Thanks for looking up them years though. I wasn't sure on that fact.
Not a prob DH. But just to clerify.. Manson was given the death penalty for whatever he did. When the Supreme court suspended the death penalty, everyone was given a aprieve. And once the death penalty was reinstated ('78)...it was basically grand fathered in. One's who were on death row (before '67) were not put back on. So that is the main reason why Manson is still alive to this day.
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:39 pm
by Brk
Ok, he's dead now. Lock the thread and let's get back to posting the normal crap.
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:33 pm
by horsemen_
Zerohero wrote:He doesn't get a grave either if I'm correct.
they said last night he had a will and Barbara Becnel will takes poss ion of the body
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051213/ap_ ... _execution
Becnel said she was planning a memorial service "befitting a statesman" for Sunday or Monday in Los Angeles. She said Williams asked to be cremated and have his ashes spread in South Africa. Foxx and rapper Snoop Dogg are expected to attend, she said.
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:06 pm
by sito
How many people have died do to the Crips? Not only was he found guilty of his crimes, his legacy as a Crips founder lives on. Ask any parent that lost someone to gang warfare how they feel about his death. More oxygen for me! Yea baby!
The only part that saddens me is that you guys had to give him 3 square for so long.

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:10 pm
by sito
Burke wrote:Ok, he's dead now. Lock the thread and let's get back to posting the normal crap.
Why you be hatin on da gangsta lifestyle? Is coo!
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:14 pm
by Mactron
sito wrote:Why you be hatin on da gangsta lifestyle? Is coo!

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:36 pm
by sito
Mactron wrote:
Top left homie.

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:25 pm
by Gixxer
As my favorite rapper Tupac asks: Is there a heaven for a gangsta?
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:26 pm
by 64bit
GSXR 750 wrote:As my favorite rapper Tupac asks: Is there a heaven for a gangsta?
Straight up G. A hoe for every nigga and glocks that never runs out!! Holla at ya boy!