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Woe Is me
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 10:36 pm
by Lobo
Just playing I wanted to check out the other File System, NTFS, but it was not as fast as FAT32, I kept playing and playing with numbers till I saw this at Speed test site:
One or more partitions are using the NTFS file system. Although this file system offers many good features such as encryption and improved security, it is generally much slower than the FAT32 file system. You may notice a significant performance difference between FAT32 and NTFS partitions on the same drive
So now you know what im doing, weep, weep, snif

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 10:51 pm
by mnosteele52
Speed:
NTFS and FAT32 are very similar in speed, but as the size of the disk increases, the gap widens. NTFS actually stores small files in the Master File Table (MFT), to increase performance. Rather than moving the heads to the beginning of the disk to read the MFT entry, and then to the middle or end of the disk to read the actual file, the heads simply move to the beginning of the disk, and read both at the same time. This can account for a considerable increase in speed when reading lots of small files.

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 11:19 pm
by Lobo
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 11:21 pm
by Mike_W
You are noticing slower speeds in what areas? File access or in internet speeds?
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 11:30 pm
by Lobo
Net speed Mike
One or more partitions are using the NTFS file system. Although this file system offers many good features such as encryption and improved security, it is generally much slower than the FAT32 file system. You may notice a significant performance difference between FAT32 and NTFS partitions on the same drive

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 12:16 am
by Lobo
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Almost there, major improvement for me, look at cache speed and uncache speed: the first one is NTFS, the 2nd FAT32:
Cached speed 259.29 MB/s (153%) 298.57 MB/s (176%)
Uncached speed 3.38 MB/s (82%) 6.14 MB/s (149%)

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 12:20 am
by earthmofo
Wouldn't the cached speed be a lot faster then the uncached to begin with? What is the cached speed of the FAT32?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 1:38 am
by mccoffee
I had the same promblem with lobo at first with ntfs it does seem slower. I got more ram that sovled it. Also lobo if you haven't tried it yet goto strat run and search make sure fast idexing is on if it isnt. see if that helps
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 1:41 am
by Ploxhoi
I got a few questions.
Did you convert FAT32 to NTFS or did you format the drive with NTFS and install?
Where are the partitions? NTFS on the inside and FAT32 on the outside?
Have you benched you hard drive / partitions, with a utility program such as HDTach?
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 9:51 am
by Lobo
earthmofo
298.57 MB/s (176%)
Everyone else im back on FAT32, above CAP and happpppppppppppppy

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 11:00 pm
by zxc47
Fat32 is better on all drive under 32 gigabytes any thing over that use NTFS up to 2 terabytes. if you want to use fat32 on a drive over 32GB you need to partition it
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 11:09 pm
by Lobo
Ploxhoi, 1 HD, 3 partitions, XP on all, 1st partition was FAT32 until I switched to NTFS (Like a fool), so the other 2 partitions are FAT32, so I am using one of them and going to use XP disk this week sometime to take off that NTFS partition and make it back to FAT32

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2002 12:22 am
by zxc47
Cached speed 339.74 MB/s on NTFS
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2002 2:05 am
by Ploxhoi
I have never tested this myself, but 2 technicians I work with say when you convert from FAT32 to NTFS it messes up the cluster size or something. I remember them talking about it one day. The conversation was about formating a partition to NTFS or convertiong FAT32 to NTFS. They said it will slow the read/write rate if you convert. I will have to ask them about it next time I see them.
I guess if you were comparing the same partition the second idea is out. Hard drives read/write data on the outeredge faster than the inside track due to greater surface velocity.
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2002 8:33 am
by Lobo
FAT32 has larger cluster size than NTFS
