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Tyson was just turned down

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 7:07 pm
by mouse
They turned down his request for a boxing License. I feel bad that this guy who could have been great has ruined his career with such BS. He had so much potential....

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 7:08 pm
by AAF Striker
Bad move in turning it down in my opinion. Wonder how much money everyone just lost? .... (lost as in all the money that would have been made)

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 7:16 pm
by Deus ex Machina
Ridiculous. He should be allowed to box. So what if he is an ass, asses are allowed to have jobs.

shant,
david

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 7:18 pm
by Joint Chiefs of Staff
Originally posted by AAF Striker
Bad move in turning it down in my opinion. Wonder how much money everyone just lost? .... (lost as in all the money that would have been made)
On the other hand maybe the Boxing Commitee is finally doing it right and is not worrying about the money.

Hey, can't they go to a foreign country and box? I don't think the rules apply to the boxers outside of the US. I don't know.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 7:19 pm
by minir
Hi mouse

How ya doin Kiddo? Lookin Good :)

You know mouse in all honesty i really don't think Mike wanted to fight Lewis and did His best to get out of it by his actions.

If you remember Hollifield when Mike was losing and the Big Bite, well he just did it again.

Better Disqualified in His mind than Beaten imho.

He knows he's not the fighter he once was, but his pride is important to him and this way he gets out of it with an excuse in his mind at least.

I guess the money men will try to get the fight in Australia or somewhere where they can avoid the Nevada ruling as it's too much for them to say no to.

This will get interesting before it goes away imho.

Take care mouse

regards

minir

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 7:19 pm
by Noevo
Originally posted by Joint Chiefs Of Staff


On the other hand maybe the Boxing Commitee is finally doing it right an is not worrying about the money for once.

Hey, can't they go to a foreign country and box? I don't think the rules apply to the boxers outside of the US. I don't know.
He can fight in other states. I think Michigan still has him licensed and New Jersey I think.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 7:23 pm
by Joint Chiefs of Staff
Originally posted by Noevo


He can fight in other states. I think Michigan still has him licensed and New Jersey I think.
That could be Tyson's ticket back into the ring! Bets are still on then. Tyson gets disqualifed! :nod:

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 7:24 pm
by brembo
Tyson is a ticking bomb. Upwards of 400 million dollars is the number I have heard in pay-per-view terms. Boxing industry needs a dose of respectability. Although the fight would have been fun to watch. He'll appeal it, prolly win too.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 7:25 pm
by Noevo
Originally posted by Joint Chiefs Of Staff


That could be Tyson's ticket back into the ring! Bets are still on then. Tyson gets disqualifed! :nod:
He fought here in the last year I believe, some chump. Problem is Vegas would have drown the most crowds and money I believe. No sports books here.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 7:59 pm
by lurker
dang, i really wanted to see him eat lewis' children :o

*even tho he has no children :p

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 8:02 pm
by Gandalf
I think Tyson is a ******* Moron.. and he should burn........ burn in He**.

Talking about He** whatever happend to The Devil.

Re: Tyson was just turned down

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 8:02 pm
by Jim
He's been given too many chances for too many things, even for a "celebrity". Personally, I hope he never boxes/bites in this country again.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 8:27 pm
by mouse
Well when I watched it on TV the people deciding said that he was presenting himself as a bad role model for other young people who wanted to get into boxing.

They said that they agree that he was provoked into the altercation but that as a celebrity and a professional he handled it very badly. It appeared that they were more upset with the way that he let his anger get out of control then the actual scuffle.

I think that tyson has not really had people around him that cared about him. People have used him and influnced him into his own destruction. I still think that he could have been legendary.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 8:35 pm
by 64bit
Originally posted by mouse
I still think that he could have been legendary.
He is legendary. A legendary nutcase!! The miscreant deserves whatever he gets.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 8:46 pm
by Norm
Just think of some of the far out things we would ALL do for a million dollars.
Tyson had a chance to make multi milions and blew it.

All he had to do was hold his temper, and listen up when a woman says NO!!
Man what a jerk. He had women coming out his ears and he had to force one (or more) into sex.

Oh, yeah.....I'll never forget that voice of his lol

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 9:08 pm
by downhill
mouse, your last post.......well said.

Tyson's first big blunder what hiring Don King. As usual with most fighters associated with King, it's all downhill from there.

The only boxer I can remember in my lifetime who could hit almost as hard as Tyson's body shots was Cooney. He didn't have the moves to get inside like Tyson.

Tyson's upper cuts and cross's are legendary. His body shots sounded like sledgehammer blows. You could hear and see the pain of the other fighter when Tyson went to the body.

Even now, if Tyson were to really get into shape, Lewis wouldn't last 12 rounds. Problem is that Tyson lacks the focus nessary to accomplish this feat.

I can't blame the boxing commision of the great state of Nevada.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 9:10 pm
by US Grant
finally, one of the great scum's of America is put down where he belongs in one state!!! will the rest of this great nation follow? hopefully!!!

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 9:46 pm
by Dunster
I'm glad the Nexada Boxing Commision did not become blinded by all the $$$$$$$'s that this fight would have brought in. I think Tyson should just go away. He is a serious mental case. He can not act in a professional way.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 9:48 pm
by Joint Chiefs of Staff
Originally posted by downhill

The only boxer I can remember in my lifetime who could hit almost as hard as Tyson's body shots was Cooney.
I agree.

Also Terrible Tim Witherspoon! He could put on the hurting with his body shots!

Still....Tyson was a bad dude in the ring! It's a shame what he has become. What next? The Mike Tyson Show? :rolleyes:

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 9:54 pm
by 64bit
Originally posted by Joint Chiefs Of Staff
What next? The Mike Tyson Show? :rolleyes:
It would not suprise me at all, not one bit!

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 10:40 pm
by minir
Hi downhill

Tyson could hit, but!

This is the Guy i remember that could hit.

He'd make Tyson look like a Flyweight imho

Rocky could crush you with one shot, Vicious hitter.

ROCKY MARCIANO

"The Brockton Blockbuster"

Rocky Marciano was born in Brockton, MA on September 1, 1923. A former local shoe worker, he became the heavyweight champion of the world when he defeated Jersey Joe Walcott on September 23, 1952.

Rocky died in an airplane crash on August 31, 1969. He is vitally and warmly remembered by all Brocktonians. His record of 49 consecutive professional wins still stands.


Date Opponent Site Outcome
March 17, 1947 Lee Epperson Holyoke KO 3
July 12, 1948 Harry Bilazarian Providence KO 1
July 19, 1948 John Edwards Providence KO 1
Aug. 9, 1948 Bobby Quinn Providence KO 3
Aug. 23, 1948 Eddie Ross Providence KO 1
Aug. 30, 1948 Jimmy Weeks Providence KO 1
Sept. 13, 1948 Jerry Jackson Providence KO 1
Sept. 20, 1948 Bill Hardeman Providence KO 1
Sept. 30, 1948 Gil Cardione Washington KO 1
Oct. 4, 1948 Bob Jefferson Providence KO 2
Nov. 29, 1948 Pat Connolly Providence KO 1
Dec. 14, 1948 Gilley Ferron Philadelphia KO 2
March 21, 1949 Johnny Pretzie Providence KO 5
March 28, 1949 Artie Donato Providence KO 1
April 11 1949 James Walls Providence KO 3
May 2, 1949 Jimmy Evans Providence KO 3
May 23 1949 Don Mogard Providence W 10
July 18, 1949 Harry Haft Providence KO 3
Aug. 16, 1949 Pete Louthis New Bedford KO 3
Sept. 26, 1949 Tommy DiGiorgio Providence KO 4
Oct. 10, 1949 Ted Lowry Providence W 10
Nov. 7, 1949 Joe Dominic Providence KO 2
Dec. 2, 1949 Pat Richards New York KO 2
Dec. 19, 1949 Phil Muscato Providence KO 5
Dec. 30, 1949 Carmine Vingo New York KO 6
March 24, 1950 Roland LaStarza New York W
June 5, 1950 Eldridge Eatman Providence KO
July 10, 1950 Gino Buonvino Boston KO
Sept. 18, 1950 Johnny Shkor Providence KO
Nov. 13, 1950 Ted Lowry Providence W
Dec. 18, 1950 Bill Wilson Providence KO
Jan. 29, 1951 Keene Simmons Providence KO
March 20, 1951 Harold Mitchell Hartford KO
March 26, 1951 Art Henri Providence KO
April 30, 1951 Red Applegate Providence W
July 12, 1951 Rex Layne New York KO
Aug. 27, 195,1 Freddie Beshore Boston KO
Oct. 26, 1951 Joe Louis New York KO
Feb. 13, 1952 Lee Savold Philadelphia KO
April 21, 1952 Gino Buonvino Providence KO
May 12, 1952 Bernie Reynolds Providence KO
July 12, 1952 Harry Matthews New York KO
Sept. 23, 1952 Jersey Joe Walcott Philadelphia KO 13
May 15, 1953 Jersey Joe Walcott Chicago KO 1*
Sept. 24, 1953 Roland LaStarza New York KO 11*
June 17, 1954 Ezzard Charles New York W 15*
Sept. 17, 1954 Ezzard Charles New York KO 8*
May 16, 1955 Don ****ell San Francisco KO 9*
Sept. 21, 1955 Archie Moore New York KO 9*

Record: Won 49, Lost 0, 43 KO's
*—won world heavy weight title
**—retained title

That's when the Heavyweight Title meant something.

Retired Undefeated. Man i use to love His Fights. Wow!!!

regards

minir

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 10:47 pm
by Joint Chiefs of Staff
Originally posted by minir
Hi downhill

Tyson could hit, but!

This is the Guy i remember that could hit.

He'd make Tyson look like a Flyweight imho

Rocky could crush you with one shot, Vicious hitter.

ROCKY MARCIANO

"The Brockton Blockbuster"

Rocky Marciano was born in Brockton, MA on September 1, 1923. A former local shoe worker, he became the heavyweight champion of the world when he defeated Jersey Joe Walcott on September 23, 1952.

Rocky died in an airplane crash on August 31, 1969. He is vitally and warmly remembered by all Brocktonians. His record of 49 consecutive professional wins still stands.


Date Opponent Site Outcome
March 17, 1947 Lee Epperson Holyoke KO 3
July 12, 1948 Harry Bilazarian Providence KO 1
July 19, 1948 John Edwards Providence KO 1
Aug. 9, 1948 Bobby Quinn Providence KO 3
Aug. 23, 1948 Eddie Ross Providence KO 1
Aug. 30, 1948 Jimmy Weeks Providence KO 1
Sept. 13, 1948 Jerry Jackson Providence KO 1
Sept. 20, 1948 Bill Hardeman Providence KO 1
Sept. 30, 1948 Gil Cardione Washington KO 1
Oct. 4, 1948 Bob Jefferson Providence KO 2
Nov. 29, 1948 Pat Connolly Providence KO 1
Dec. 14, 1948 Gilley Ferron Philadelphia KO 2
March 21, 1949 Johnny Pretzie Providence KO 5
March 28, 1949 Artie Donato Providence KO 1
April 11 1949 James Walls Providence KO 3
May 2, 1949 Jimmy Evans Providence KO 3
May 23 1949 Don Mogard Providence W 10
July 18, 1949 Harry Haft Providence KO 3
Aug. 16, 1949 Pete Louthis New Bedford KO 3
Sept. 26, 1949 Tommy DiGiorgio Providence KO 4
Oct. 10, 1949 Ted Lowry Providence W 10
Nov. 7, 1949 Joe Dominic Providence KO 2
Dec. 2, 1949 Pat Richards New York KO 2
Dec. 19, 1949 Phil Muscato Providence KO 5
Dec. 30, 1949 Carmine Vingo New York KO 6
March 24, 1950 Roland LaStarza New York W
June 5, 1950 Eldridge Eatman Providence KO
July 10, 1950 Gino Buonvino Boston KO
Sept. 18, 1950 Johnny Shkor Providence KO
Nov. 13, 1950 Ted Lowry Providence W
Dec. 18, 1950 Bill Wilson Providence KO
Jan. 29, 1951 Keene Simmons Providence KO
March 20, 1951 Harold Mitchell Hartford KO
March 26, 1951 Art Henri Providence KO
April 30, 1951 Red Applegate Providence W
July 12, 1951 Rex Layne New York KO
Aug. 27, 195,1 Freddie Beshore Boston KO
Oct. 26, 1951 Joe Louis New York KO
Feb. 13, 1952 Lee Savold Philadelphia KO
April 21, 1952 Gino Buonvino Providence KO
May 12, 1952 Bernie Reynolds Providence KO
July 12, 1952 Harry Matthews New York KO
Sept. 23, 1952 Jersey Joe Walcott Philadelphia KO 13
May 15, 1953 Jersey Joe Walcott Chicago KO 1*
Sept. 24, 1953 Roland LaStarza New York KO 11*
June 17, 1954 Ezzard Charles New York W 15*
Sept. 17, 1954 Ezzard Charles New York KO 8*
May 16, 1955 Don ****ell San Francisco KO 9*
Sept. 21, 1955 Archie Moore New York KO 9*

Record: Won 49, Lost 0, 43 KO's
*—won world heavy weight title
**—retained title

That's when the Heavyweight Title meant something.

Retired Undefeated. Man i use to love His Fights. Wow!!!

regards

minir
Nice fact find Larry!

Way before my time but I remember my old man mention Rocky M. a time or two when he and his buddies would watch the old Ali / Frasier fights on ABC.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 11:03 pm
by mouse
I wish that I could have been there to see that.

It is sad that this generation had to witness crap like tysons career. So many things have changed, I can't help but wish that I had been born sooner

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 11:07 pm
by brembo
Originally posted by mouse
I wish that I could have been there to see that.

It is sad that this generation had to witness crap like tysons career. So many things have changed, I can't help but wish that I had been born sooner

*imagines mouse in the Flintstones*

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 11:17 pm
by mouse
I think those little dresses were cute! :)

I actually had a little cave dress made for me, I wore it for holloween and it fit like a second skin... LOL

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2002 11:59 pm
by downhill
Hiya minir....it was just a bit before my time. However, I've seen quite a few Marciano fights that have been rebroadcast on various sports shows.

I suppose that a lot of todays younger boxing fans don't realize that fights back then were 15 rounds or longer at the turn of the century.

Rocky had a fast jab and a huge hook. He also had a ton of heart!

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 2:26 am
by Croc
Hey minir,
Now don't you go planting seeds in those promoters tiny minds about bringing this fight to Australia, Larry. :D
I doubt Tyson would be allowed into Australia with his criminal record and the fact he has another case pending. He would fall into the catagory of "Undesirable Alien". LOL ;)
Personally I think the energy could be put to better use by sending him into Afghanistan tearing open the caves looking for terrorists. :rotfl:
I can see him now.... in uniform with the sleeves torn to make way for the muscles, pounding his chest, nashing his weapon (err.. teeth) and saying, "come out, come out, wherever you are. I wanna play". :rotfl:

Croc out.

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 2:50 am
by minir
Hi mouse, Guy's

Oh He was a fighter all right.

Almost beaten a couple of times and Boom He'd get charged up and that would be all she wrote.

Each Punch was meant to do damage, no pittiy pat from him.

He was also by all accounts a hell of a nice person..

Yes 15 Rounds was the order of the Day for a Championship Fight's downhill and these Guy's were in shape to do it.

Gillette was the Sponsor of many if not all of them.

We Kids knew every fighter and His record back then, they where our Heroes.

We used to sit around the Radio listening to the announcer describe the battle we envisioned in our minds, then Saturday at the Movies and the World News would show the Fight, we'd go Nut's.

Ring Magazine was a biggy then.

When TV came man that was livin.

You'd have loved it mouse.

See their are some advantages in being older than Dirt. Hahaha

Imagine going through a whole Movie without one Nude Scene, or a complete Movie without 1 Woman in it.

These where also Great Movies, today they say Hi and rip off the threads, No Talent in most cases, hell not even their own Boobs.

Times were different all right.


Australia just popped in my head Croc, Sorry.

How about Afghanistan, boost the economy and the TV crews are already their.

Hi Joint Chiefs Of Staff

I dug up the record to show what He did and how quickly in most cases as well.

He was simply Awesome in the Ring.


Boxing is a mess now and has been for many years, with 4 or more Belts per Division, and everyone stating They are the Champ.

Back then there was No Confusion. You Where or Your Where Not, Simple.

It will be interesting to see what comes of the whole mess as the money is too big to pass up.


regards

minir