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can someone help me with this?
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 2:18 pm
by timmy1079
Note: Read the FAQ if the above is not your IP address.
Browser/OS = Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0)
TCP options string = 0204058c01010402
MTU = 1460
MTU is not fully optimized for broadband. Consider increasing your MTU to 1500 for better throughput.
MSS = 1420
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1420, which is equal to MSS.
MSS is not fully optimized for broadband (although it might work well for slower connections). Consider increasing your MTU value.
Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 17040
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 0 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 17040
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
522560 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 8)
261280 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 4)
130640 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 2)
65320 (MSS x 46)
bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 681.6 kbps (85.2 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 272.64 kbps (34.08 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
Consider increasing your RWIN value to optimize TCP/IP for broadband.
MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON
Time to live left = 116 hops
TTL value is ok.
Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF
Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON
IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000
is this a good setting?
what other thing can i do? thanks
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 2:28 pm
by MadDoctor
Hi!
Go back and edit out your IP number. Little kids love to ping IP's.
You are cable? Do you have the cablenut adjuster (Lobo has the link to the adjuster).
Re: can someone help me with this?
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 3:31 pm
by TradeMark245
Originally posted by timmy1079
**Output was here***
is this a good setting?
what other thing can i do? thanks
Always remember to include What type of Line you have Cable/DSL and what connects you.
I'm willing to help DSL people.
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 3:34 pm
by timmy1079
i have Verizon dsl
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 3:37 pm
by funky
Let's see how you can do, Trademark.

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 3:41 pm
by TradeMark245
Originally posted by timmy1079
i have Verizon dsl
Do you use thier software? Access Manager or something like that? Their is another alternative but first How do you connect?
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 4:15 pm
by timmy1079
connect using pppoe
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 4:51 pm
by timmy1079
sigh...
same everything is the same, mtu = 1460
ramdisk doesn't work so i have to uninstal it
mss = 1420
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 4:58 pm
by Lobo
Your MTU should be 1492, see help thread below for help (in sig)

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 5:26 pm
by timmy1079
i give up
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 5:28 pm
by Lobo
What OS is this

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 6:10 pm
by timmy1079
w2k advance server
800eb mhz processor
256mb sdram
dsl with builtin ethernet card
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 7:34 pm
by Lobo
Evil, put de pipe down, lol

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 7:55 pm
by Lobo
Try
here 
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 8:03 pm
by timmy1079
i don't but my uploading speed rise like a rocket
from 10kb/s to 200kb/s
and when i'm uploading, my internet browsing kind of stuck, take a long time to load a page
and same thing happen too when i'm not uploading
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 8:37 pm
by EvilAjax
Don't give up.
Read my DSL PPPoE Guide below in my signature (the Link)
Read the instructions for Winpoet Users, that's what you are. Come back after you're done and confirm the changes by posting the analyzer test again. (Make sure you click refresh if you get the same settings)
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 10:04 pm
by TradeMark245
Timmy did you previously have a modem installed in your computer? And then upgraded to the DSL?
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 11:45 pm
by timmy1079
nope
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 11:49 pm
by TradeMark245
Hmmm... ok I'm no help on this one. You have WIN98SE I think and I don't. The Registry is different from WinME that's what I have.
Ok someone else take over.
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 11:52 pm
by timmy1079
this is what it shows when i take the test after folowing the DSL winpoet guide
Browser/OS = Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0)
TCP options string = 0204058c0103030001010402
MTU = 1460
MTU is not fully optimized for broadband. Consider increasing your MTU to 1500 for better throughput.
MSS = 1420
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1420, which is equal to MSS.
MSS is not fully optimized for broadband (although it might work well for slower connections). Consider increasing your MTU value.
Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 17040
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 0 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 17040
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
522560 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 8)
261280 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 4)
130640 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 2)
65320 (MSS x 46)
bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 681.6 kbps (85.2 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 272.64 kbps (34.08 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
Consider increasing your RWIN value to optimize TCP/IP for broadband.
MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON
Time to live left = 52 hops
TTL value is ok.
Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF
Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON
IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000
and by the way, i have window 2000 advance server
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 12:24 am
by TradeMark245
Doh!

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 12:56 am
by timmy1079
yes my rwin rises...
Browser/OS = Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0)
TCP options string = 0204058c0103030201010402
MTU = 1460
MTU is not fully optimized for broadband. Consider increasing your MTU to 1500 for better throughput.
MSS = 1420
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1420, which is equal to MSS.
MSS is not fully optimized for broadband (although it might work well for slower connections). Consider increasing your MTU value.
Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 256960
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 2 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 64240
For optimum performance, consider changing RWIN to a multiple of MSS.
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
522560 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 8)
261280 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 4)
130640 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 2)
65320 (MSS x 46)
bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 10278.4 kbps (1284.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 4111.36 kbps (513.92 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON
Time to live left = 235 hops
TTL value is ok.
Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF
Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON
what can i do now?
how do i fully optimize my mtu to the highest 1492 or 1500 which one is best for my verizon dsl
thanks for all your help so far
RAspppoe
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 1:52 am
by TradeMark245
Have you done a Speed test with your latest post????
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 10278.4 kbps (1284.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 4111.36 kbps (513.92 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
It looks good except for the MTU size. Uh. I don't know win2000.
Have you read the whole page about editing registry?
http://www.speedguide.net/Cable_modems/ ... in2k.shtml
If you backit up, then it's not detrimental to remove a Protocal entry. worst could happen.. hmm.. reinstall the NIC and some protocals again??
http://www.speedguide.net/Cable_modems/cable_reg_win2k.shtml
is RasPPPoE work with win2000? anyone?
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 6:55 am
by Lobo
timmy1079
Junior Member
Registered: Oct 2001
Location: New jersey
Posts: 18
connect using pppoe
Use RASPPPoE, RWIN, 3 places=DefaultReceiveWindow, TcpWindowSize, GlobalMaxTcpWindowSize,
RWIN 31944 or 63888 or 255552

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 7:07 am
by Lobo
Are you sure your on PPPoE, call ISP
PPPoE you have to log on with name and password.
PPPoE ( Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet ) is a method for building PPP sessions and encapsulating packets, as described in RFC2516. Although it is not a standard, PPPoE is already being used by a number of DSL providers. It requires either routers that have built-in PPPoE support, or PPPoE software to "dial up" and establish the session. You have to log on with name and password everytime you access net with PPPoE.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 8:22 am
by timmy1079
i don't know if my connectin is winpoet or pppoe
but everytime, when i click on the verizon icon
a popup asking for username and password
and when i click on dial, it connect and minimize to the taskbar
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 8:25 am
by Lobo
You are on PPPoE, try RASPPPoE. see help thread below in sig

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 8:46 am
by EvilAjax
I guess you didn't even bother reading the PPPoE guide.. you would have been all set by now.. Oh well
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 8:47 am
by Bob Carrick
Yes verizon uses WinPoet, which is PPPoE software (as we know). I do not know why his MTU is not rising, using the Windows 98 PPPoE patch should work. I don't know of a new reg setting that WInPoet puts in place, but it is a possibility. Yes RASPPPoE would fix this, setting his MTU to 1492. If he wants RASPPPoE I have links and insctructions on my site listed below.
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 9:14 am
by timmy1079
oh, i red all of your signature links...
and now that the RasPPPoe links is not working
don't know why?
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 9:29 am
by Bob Carrick
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 9:46 am
by timmy1079
Does this look okie or is there a better setting u can help me improve?
TCP options string = 020405ac0103030301010402
MTU = 1492
MTU seems to be optimized for PPPoE... If you are not on a PPPoE connection, consider increasing your MTU to 1500 for optimal throughput.
MSS = 1452
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1452, which is equal to MSS.
MSS is optimized for PPPoE. If you are not on a PPPoE connection, consider increasing your MTU value.
Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 522560
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 3 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 65320
For optimum performance, consider changing RWIN to a multiple of MSS.
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
511104 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
255552 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
127776 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
63888 (MSS x 44)
bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 20902.4 kbps (2612.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 8360.96 kbps (1045.12 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = OFF
Time to live left = 52 hops
TTL value is ok.
Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF
Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON
IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 9:48 am
by EvilAjax
That RWIN is not optimized for your connection. Try 26136 29040, 40656, 47916, 52272 only in TcpWindowSize.
Make sure Tcp1323Opts is blank.
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 10:15 am
by Lobo
Evil, our patch does not put it in only one place, they have their reasons, if you insist in this I suggest you go to site that does it your way, right now SG does not, I am not going to debate this, do it SG's way or don't say anything

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 10:37 am
by EvilAjax
Originally posted by Lobo
Evil, our patch does not put it in only one place, they have their reasons, if you insist in this I suggest you go to site that does it your way, right now SG does not, I am not going to debate this, do it SG's way or don't say anything
LMFAO
Did you make the patches? Does it specifically say that it puts it in three places? Read the Windows 2000 Tweak page CAREFULLY...
TCPWindowSize <-- Notice the title..... yeah
The value of TCP Window in the Windows 2000 Registry is DWORD, representing number of bytes, with range from 0 to 2^30. The recommended values (in red) optimize TCP for any high speed Internet connection and work best in most cases, however if you'd like to use a custom value follow these guidelines:
For best results, the TCPWindow should be a multiple of MSS (Maximum Segment Size). MSS is generally MTU - 40, where MTU (Maximum Transmission Unit) is the largest packet size that can be transmitted. MTU is usually 1500 (1492 for PPPoE connections). To determine the MTU value of your ISP, check out the Advanced Registry Editing section of our site
Sheesh, you got your period today? What's up with that? All of a sudden just dissagreeing with me?

Whatever man.
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 10:39 am
by EvilAjax
BTW, the only reason I recommended him to put it in one place is because I don't want him going through a pain, putting it in three seperate places each time when it is NOT neccessary.
TcpWindowSize over rides all other spots where you can edit the RWIN. Read it over and over, you might get it.
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 10:39 am
by Lobo
Patch puts it in 2 places and if you can't live with that, I suggest you talk to Phillip

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 10:44 am
by EvilAjax
First it was three places... now two. Hmm..
First of all... What are you talking about?? If the patch puts it in two places, big WHOOP! What I am saying is that it doesn't belong in two places because TcpWindowSize OVERRIDES GlobalMaxTcpWindowSize and DefaultRcvWindow. You should know this...
Why are you going to make users go through more work when it only has to be done once? Ask Philip yourself.. I know I'm right. I've read the article and anyone who reads it too will agree with me. I showed you proof, more proof, and even more proof. You don't have to believe me.. It's Ok

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 10:51 am
by Lobo
It is not your job to bring ideas from other sites over here, our patch puts it in 2 places and 3 if you like, I find it faster in 3, like yesterday your RWIN of 16384 is from another site that goes with another RWIN, again you need to go by Speedguides rules, or talk to Phillip, he says 1 place, then fine, as it stands now, no

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 10:58 am
by EvilAjax
Other sites? These are my ideas, I don't follow any ones rules. Just mine
And I'm certain you would be faster with an RWIN placed in three different spots, LOL.
Like I said, ask Philip yourslef. I know I'm right. TcpWindowSize...
