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Opening a Facebook account

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:38 pm
by Easto
The wife wants to open a Facebook account and I've never really dealt with Facebook before. Can anyone enlighten me as to what security measures to take and what account settings are vital? She will be using it in a private mode but I don't know how much that helps. I do remember somewhere that you could download a file that would auto-set the security settings.

Thanks,

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:29 pm
by Sava700
Don't do it... resist the urge to buy into the hype that it's a must have.

But really..don't download no 3rd party app to do settings for you..If your really going to do it just take the time and read each setting to select so you understand what your checking.

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:55 pm
by Easto
I will definately be opening it for her. Actually I think I asked this before and we never go around to opening it. Personally I'm against it but her daughter and son both use it so now she's got the bug.

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:03 pm
by blebs
I still think it's one huge security risk. Oh yeah, others will disagree. Think about it though, if every person opened an account, Facebook gets all your information (Even if you close your account, they keep that information) so I think it's sort of convenient for special interests, say like the government for one, to really know as much about you as possible. I'm not even going to mention the viruses my sons picked up on there.

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:52 pm
by loop2kil
blebs wrote:I still think it's one huge security risk. Oh yeah, others will disagree. Think about it though, if every person opened an account, Facebook gets all your information (Even if you close your account, they keep that information) so I think it's sort of convenient for special interests, say like the government for one, to really know as much about you as possible. I'm not even going to mention the viruses my sons picked up on there.

You only share what you want the whole world to be able to read about. You are NOT required to fill in every blank. Overall FB is a bit lame but the one great thing that I have found is that It's a great way to reconnect with old friends from your school days.

As Sava mentioned never install a 3rd party FB App as it is usually causes problems.

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:04 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
Shut down notifications/invites to games..they're annoying. Stay clear of those, surveys, etc...and you're fine. Just...post..stick to posting, and you're safe.
Run this app
http://www.untangle.com/Products/SaveFace

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:21 pm
by Sava700
loop2kil wrote: but the one great thing that I have found is that It's a great way to reconnect with old friends from your school days.

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ya know I've had so many friends I talk to now say that they use it for that too but ya know what.. if I have long time friends that want to contact me that bad they can do it the old fashioned way...the ways done before the internet existed since I refuse to get a lamebook account.

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:29 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
loop2kil wrote: Overall FB is a bit lame but the one great thing that I have found is that It's a great way to reconnect with old friends from your school days.
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Yeah that's what I like about it....friends that moved away, you can connect with them again, see updates pics, pics of their family, kids, etc.
People from prior jobs.

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:52 pm
by Shinobi
My 2 cents:

1) use another email account (like Gmail) to sign up, this also helps with the notifications that you get..
2) do not put any personal info like phones numbers, addresses ect.
3) The games are fun, however they use 3rd party ad servers that sometimes try to install "FakeAV" scare-ware / other.
4) After signing up, I would go straight to the "privacy settings" and make it so your Wife is not unsearchable. Your Wife can add people who she wants to add after searching for them.
5) Like YOSC said, I would not do the surveys, also there are a lot of worms that try to contact you as a "Friend" that is something to look out for.

I keep a close very small list of friends that I talk to on there. I even found my 3rd and 4th cousins living in another country on facebook... which is awesome seeing how my family blood line is "very thin" so.. the site can be pretty awesome, just keep your guard up. :-)

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:53 pm
by Gixxer
1 in 5 divorces site facebook.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:54 am
by Easto
Thanks everyone! The little woman and I are having an indepth training session regarding what she is not supposed to do. We're using her gmail account and she knows not to click on anything other than friends information. NO 3rd pty crap, period.

I'm not crazy about her using it but she's been bugging me for almost a year. Her kids are pushing her to join. Oh well, I guess you pick your fights and this is one I'm letting go.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:53 am
by blebs
I had an account and got outta dodge pretty quickly. That's how I found out about them keeping your information forever.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:50 am
by Philip
blebs wrote:I still think it's one huge security risk. Oh yeah, others will disagree. Think about it though, if every person opened an account, Facebook gets all your information (Even if you close your account, they keep that information) so I think it's sort of convenient for special interests, say like the government for one, to really know as much about you as possible. I'm not even going to mention the viruses my sons picked up on there.

I don't think that's much different than others like Gmail. It all boils down to whether you trust that company (and any of their affiliates that you allow) with some personal information.

As a matter of fact, everything you share online, and your browsing habits are also mined and rehashed by companies to serve you relevant ads, etc. As long as you're aware of it and choose what to share, you should be relatively safe.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:00 am
by Easto
I'm not really too concerned with exposing what I would consider harmless information that could be obtained through virtually any cross referenced phone or address check. My biggest personal problem is that my wife still does not seem to understand the potential harm that can come by clicking on something that someone is telling her to click on. She's constantly sending those stupid eCards and loading new themes and backgrounds on a weekly basis.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:07 am
by Sava700
Gixxer wrote:1 in 5 divorces site facebook.

Yep..known fact so far. Don't forget it also causes more harm to relationships whether or not it's boyfriend or girlfriend but also towards your regular friends by sharing more information than you normally would expose just being out and about. The site gives you too many tools to screw up your life and they are making billions from it.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:57 pm
by Roody
Sava700 wrote:Yep..known fact so far. Don't forget it also causes more harm to relationships whether or not it's boyfriend or girlfriend but also towards your regular friends by sharing more information than you normally would expose just being out and about. The site gives you too many tools to screw up your life and they are making billions from it.

It doesn't cause any harm to relationships. After all Facebook can't make a person post something about themselves that they don't want shared. The problem is with the person who posts private information in a public place.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:44 pm
by David
Old friends are comforting in the nostalgic mind. Sadly, the reconnect teaches that the comraderie was based on a time and location that are no more. These "zombie" friendship are often best left buried.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:52 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
Viruses/worms from Facebook....the site itself is clean, to the best of my knowledge it has not been compromised, thus if you visit Facebooks site...it will not infect your computer. However....if you follow ads, or games, or links to watch videos....away from Facebook and onto other web servers...logically it's not facebooks web server(s) that infected you. You followed a phish link...end user error. This same logic applies to any website.

I do see a lot of correlation between cleaning peoples computers...and people that hang out on Facebook all day long. But...those users go play 3rd party games and apps that are linked to Facebook.....the persons computer did not get infected directly from Facebook.

I've disabled invites/notifications of games....I've disabled the sending of an e-mail every time someone posts on my page or messages me. And I've locked down my account to the degree that I want.

Facebook is very tolerable in this fashion...my inbox is not noisy, my page is clean....not a barrage of game status stuff, it's quite usable and non-intrusive. Makes it enjoyable. And safe.

"True" to Davids mention of past friends.....yes many of them became friends of the "past" due to whatever reason. Generally "good" friends..you stay in touch with. But I will add..one can become separated from quite a few people due to other circumstances, and it's a vehicle that allows you and them to become somewhat part of each others lives again...to the limited degree that this digital medium allows. One might say..it's better than nothing..and it was good as a tool to "catch up" and remain in contact to the degree that it allows.

Many marketing companies are pushing it as a means of getting business. And my wife is proof of that. She is still local to the area she grew up in, and went to school. Through her network of re-uniting with high school friends, she also markets her real estate. Old friends/acquaintances that found out she is in real estate, from her FB page, have given her business. She has had closed real estate transactions due to facebook...and in thinking about how she got that client, I can't think of what else would have brought those clients to her.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:56 pm
by RaisinCain
Please. Just don't do it. That site is a haven for crap.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:55 pm
by Sava700
RaisinCain wrote:Please. Just don't do it. That site is a haven for crap.

This +1

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:04 pm
by CableDude
Sava700 wrote:This +1
:thumb:

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:55 pm
by ace
Roody wrote:It doesn't cause any harm to relationships. After all Facebook can't make a person post something about themselves that they don't want shared. The problem is with the person who posts private information in a public place.
Thank You! No one is forcing anyone to put information on the net you don't want. Just because there is a space for your phone number or birthday or whatever, it doesn't mean you have to fill it in. smh...

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:08 am
by Roody
ace wrote:Thank You! No one is forcing anyone to put information on the net you don't want. Just because there is a space for your phone number or birthday or whatever, it doesn't mean you have to fill it in. smh...

It's a world filled with people looking to point the finger elsewhere instead of taking responsiblity for their own actions.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:08 am
by Sava700
I'll bump this thread instead of makin another but this is another REAL GOOD reason not to use FB or put you're personal experiences online!!

http://blogs.forbes.com/kashmirhill/201 ... ven-years/
Last week, the Federal Trade Commission gave a stamp of approval to a background check company that screens job applicants based on their Internet photos and postings. The FTC determined that Social Intelligence Corp. was in compliance with the Fair Credit Reporting Act. This means a search of what you’ve said or posted to Facebook/Twitter/Flickr/blogs and the Internet in general may become a standard part of background checks when you apply for a job.

No big deal, right? You already knew that employers were Googling you. I argued this was actually better, because Social Intelligence has to make sure its clients inform job applicants if they took adverse action based on something found on the Internet. That way you can delete and change privacy settings accordingly.

But there’s a wrinkle. If something job-threatening pops up on Facebook or Flickr or Craigslist in a search of you, Social Intelligence puts it into your file — and it stays there for seven years.
Check out these pictures of what they will look like:

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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:38 am
by YeOldeStonecat
Sava700 wrote:I'll bump this thread instead of makin another but this is another REAL GOOD reason not to use FB or put you're personal experiences online!!
Yeah...apply some common sense when you post stuff. Lets use another example..that guy from JackAss...proudly tweeting/posting pictures of himself consuming alcohol before climbing into his Porsche with a friend and crashing off the road at over 100mph. "Way to be a roll model to male teens...yeah!"

Some people just don't think! Don't blame the products..such as Facebook or Twitter...blame the lack of the persons ability to censor their own actions....aka "use your head".

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:37 am
by chimdogger
Gixxer wrote:1 in 5 divorces site facebook.
47.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:04 pm
by Debbie
YeOldeStonecat wrote:Some people just don't think! Don't blame the products..such as Facebook or Twitter...blame the lack of the persons ability to censor their own actions....aka "use your head".
This is true. Even the most educated people don't use their head. I mean look at the most recent event with "the" Congressman who posted his hard-on on Twitter. I still don't comprehend it. (I know one of you are going to say he didn't use the right head! :rotfl :)

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:26 pm
by Sava700
YeOldeStonecat wrote:Yeah...apply some common sense when you post stuff. Lets use another example..that guy from JackAss...proudly tweeting/posting pictures of himself consuming alcohol before climbing into his Porsche with a friend and crashing off the road at over 100mph. "Way to be a roll model to male teens...yeah!"

Some people just don't think! Don't blame the products..such as Facebook or Twitter...blame the lack of the persons ability to censor their own actions....aka "use your head".
Sometimes even a tool such as a hammer will hit you're finger ;)

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:41 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
Sava700 wrote:Sometimes even a tool such as a hammer will hit you're finger ;)
Not the hammers fault...if it hit me...it's my right hands fault for incorrect aim or swing. The fault still comes back to me.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:59 pm
by Sava700
YeOldeStonecat wrote:Not the hammers fault...if it hit me...it's my right hands fault for incorrect aim or swing. The fault still comes back to me.
But had you not had to use the hammer in the first place it still wouldn't have been a issue. ;)

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:28 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
Sava700 wrote:But had you not had to use the hammer in the first place it still wouldn't have been a issue. ;)
Nah, that doesn't work. I need something to pound something else into yet another thing. If I don't have a hammer...I'll find something else like a rock. But at least I won't be afraid to pick it up and use it. I refuse to not be able to get something I need or want....no sense in hiding my head in the sand.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:55 pm
by YARDofSTUF
Sava700 wrote:But had you not had to use the hammer in the first place it still wouldn't have been a issue. ;)

Good point. Hammers should be illegal.

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:12 pm
by Sava700
YARDofSTUF wrote:Good point. Hammers should be illegal.
Damn right!!! They are lethal weapons!!

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:48 pm
by chimdogger
YARDofSTUF wrote:Good point. Hammers should be illegal.
If you outlaw hammers, then only outlaws will be Too Legit To Quit.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:53 pm
by David
YeOldeStonecat wrote:Not the hammers fault...if it hit me...it's my right hands fault for incorrect aim or swing. The fault still comes back to me.

It is a common and valid argument that the tool is not to blame. Still, some folks should not use point objects.

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:16 pm
by Shinobi
chimdogger wrote:If you outlaw hammers, then only outlaws will be Too Legit To Quit.

[video=youtube;Cdk1gwWH-Cg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdk1gwWH ... re=related[/video]

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:06 am
by Sava700
Closest relavent thread I could find to not start a new one and give it any more spot light but... TAKE IT DOWN BABY!!! WOOOOOOOO

BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p opcorn: :p opcorn:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/social.med ... ?hpt=hp_t2

Apparently, "Anonymous" won't be accepting your friend request.

Members of the shadowy collective known for its politically motivated Web hacks and attacks are targeting Facebook for what they claim to be the social-networking giant's misuse of personal information.

"Your medium of communication you all so dearly adore will be destroyed," the speaker said in a YouTube video, which was posted July 16 but started circulating widely this week.

Using a voice modulator to disguise his (or her) voice, the speaker, who purports to represent Anonymous, invites viewers to "join the cause and kill Facebook for the sake of your own privacy."

"Everything you do on Facebook stays on Facebook regardless of your privacy settings, and deleting your account is impossible," the speaker says. "Even if you delete your account, all your information stays on Facebook and can be recovered at any time."
http://www.youtube.com/user/FacebookOp
The video also makes the unsubstantiated claim that Facebook has been selling user information to government agencies and giving it to security firms so they can spy on people.

A Facebook spokesman declined comment Tuesday on the alleged Anonymous plot.

But the site has repeatedly said it doesn't sell information and doesn't share user information with any third parties that the user hasn't approved.

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:29 am
by YeOldeStonecat
If they couldn't take down Amazon.......

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:30 am
by Sava700
YeOldeStonecat wrote:If they couldn't take down Amazon.......
well we can only hope now can we ;)

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:48 am
by YARDofSTUF
Good god sava, will you ever be done hijacking this thread.