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Big Labor got some big love from President Obama and congressional Democrats yesterday after they agreed to exempt union workers from the whopping “Cadillac tax” on high-cost health-care plans until 2018.

The sweetheart deal, hammered out behind closed doors, will save union employees at least $60 billion over the years involved, while others won't be as lucky -- they'll have to cough up almost $90 billion.

The 40 percent excise tax on what have come to be called "Cadillac" health-care plans would exempt collective-bargaining contracts covering government employees and other union members until Jan. 1, 2018.

X-Nemesis wrote:And then the next administration will rinse and repeat and then people will be saying the same things and yadda yadda yadda?

Same here up North. Oh to actually see an administration come in that actually is a fresh and truly for the people by the people and is witnessed by the people with the actions they take and decisions/policies they implement.

JBrazen wrote:while the rest of the country gets shafted.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/u ... IxXAm37DOM



What a disgrace Obama and his administration have proven to be in just one year in office. It's no wonder people aren't shocked that he has the lowest approval ratings of any President after 1 year in office. Hopefully, once the Dem's in Congress are run out of town at the end of the year and the Obamination is kicked out on his keister in 2013, the mistakes of this "administration" can be undone.

X-Nemesis wrote:And then the next administration will rinse and repeat and then people will be saying the same things and yadda yadda yadda?

Same here up North. Oh to actually see an administration come in that actually is a fresh and truly for the people by the people and is witnessed by the people with the actions they take and decisions/policies they implement.

jeremyboycool wrote:
"by the people"

That is the problem, it is a government "by the people"; politicians are only as good as the stock they come from. If you want to improve the administration in the higher office, then work on improving your local community and cause and effect will do the rest. A bunch of superheros are not just going to swoop in and fix everything for you.

David wrote:Admirable, the union's ability to push back against the government. I wish other organized groups would do the same.

blebs wrote:I wish I could agree. We have too many people voting without knowing what or who they are voting for and after the last few elections, I'm not even convinced votes matter. I'm fairly certain the whole thing is rigged from the get go.

Xpunge wrote:Barry Soetoro, what a cruel joke of a human propagated on the U.S..

Roody wrote:http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/bi ... dental.asp

Xpunge wrote:As snopes so clearly points out, his father called him barry Soetoro and registered him as such in school. That fact is indisputable. When barry chose to stop using that name is still in the dark, considering.....

barrys' "student records from Occidental College remain unreleased. He has not chosen to make them public, nor has any court ordered the school to release them."

Unprecedented for a modern president.

Roody wrote:If nothing else you would make Oliver Stone proud.

Xpunge wrote:Probably not, he's not so fond of the truth, and quite easily distracted by misdirections.


Again,

Barry Soetoro, what a cruel joke of a human propagated on the U.S.

Roody wrote:One thing I have learned about the detractors of this President..... Blah de blah...klpAAA, blaaaaah .

Xpunge wrote:Interestingly insightful that the only one discussing the citizenry of this loser of a president is you. No one but you brought it up, it's not even the thrust of this thread. you've repeatedly kept attempting to misdirect/steer this thread in that direction.
maybe you ought to make your own brand spanking new thread about the threat birthers are to barry and his presidency rather than to continue to attempt to derail this thread from it's main point.

hey, just saying.

Roody wrote:Let me ask you something Xpunge. Is there any Democrat in politics that you have respect for or do you similiarly speak disrespectful towards all of them? I don't know your political history prior to coming here, but I am curious to hear whether it's just a specific disdain for the President and Pelosi or in your mind are all Dems evil?

Xpunge wrote:I have been a registered Democrat my entire adult life.


End of personal info dissemination.

Roody wrote:hmmm could have sworn I saw you make a post once saying you left the Democrat party. Oh well just curious.

Xpunge wrote:"decline to state" is allowed in CA., I wont let them use me as a statistic for them currently.

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