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Microsoft Security Essentials BETA is out
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:37 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
http://www.microsoft.com/security_essen ... urces.aspx
"protection against viruses and spyware, including Trojans, worms and other malicious software."
They've been doing very good in the tests at AV-Comparatives.org
No nags, just quietly works.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:46 pm
by CableDude
Grabbed it.
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:28 am
by Andrzej

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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:12 pm
by 24giovanni
Cat, IYO, Do you think this M$ product is better than ESET or Kaspersky?
Thoughts?
thx
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:39 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
Too early to tell..gotta give it a while to show steady performance. They really ramped it up for the upcoming release, the last AV-Comparatives article it edged both of them out a tiny bit. Been doing very well at other reviews too.
Time will tell, I suspect it will do quite well. I suspect it will become the best free AV for sure.
The one compliant people have so far, no logging feature. But again, it's still just BETA...will be final soon though.
But the BETA release hit it's 75,000 mark..it's over for now. Keep checking.
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:20 pm
by CableDude
Didn't try it yet. Too damn lazy.

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:26 pm
by CableDude
YeOldeStonecat wrote:Too early to tell..gotta give it a while to show steady performance. They really ramped it up for the upcoming release, the last AV-Comparatives article it edged both of them out a tiny bit. Been doing very well at other reviews too.
Time will tell, I suspect it will do quite well. I suspect it will become the best free AV for sure.
The one compliant people have so far, no logging feature. But again, it's still just BETA...will be final soon though.
But the BETA release hit it's 75,000 mark..it's over for now. Keep checking.
How much memory does it eat up?
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:24 pm
by 24giovanni
CableDude wrote:Didn't try it yet. Too damn lazy.
How come?

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:57 am
by CableDude
24giovanni wrote:How come?
Zero motivation, just can't seem to care.

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:11 am
by YeOldeStonecat
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:27 am
by YeOldeStonecat
CableDude wrote:How much memory does it eat up?
On the Windows 7 Ultimate rig I have running on an old P4 HyperThread 2.8 with 2 gigs of RAM, it's using 40,800K.
While a tad on the heavy side...it doesn't feel too heavy. If it's detection rates are top notch, cleaning ability top notch, totally free and nag free....seems to even out the package well.
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:22 pm
by CableDude
Good stuff there.

Checking out some of his other videos too.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:18 pm
by CableDude
Installed on Windows 7 ultimate with no problems.
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:15 pm
by YARDofSTUF
Not accepting more peeps for now.
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:21 pm
by CableDude
YARDofSTUF wrote:Not accepting more peeps for now.
lol.
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:01 pm
by CableDude
Very good program.

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:19 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
CableDude wrote:Very good program.
Yessireee!
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:44 pm
by CableDude
Not eating up too much memory on Vista Home Basic.
22 MB & 588K
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:12 pm
by 24giovanni
Is it still in Beta stage?
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:26 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:00 pm
by 24giovanni
So it is still beta, any ideas when it will be RTM?
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:15 pm
by CableDude
Just found an infected MP3 file. Glad I never played it.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:21 am
by morbidpete
So do we recommend this over avast? Running Win 7 Ultimate
Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:03 pm
by 24giovanni
When does this product got to OEM? Any ideas?
thx
Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:00 pm
by mnosteele52
24giovanni wrote:When does this product got to OEM? Any ideas?
thx
It hasn't been announced but it is speculated sometime around the official release of Windows 7 in late October.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:17 pm
by 24giovanni
mnosteele52 wrote:It hasn't been announced but it is speculated sometime around the official release of Windows 7 in late October.
Good to know.
thx for letting me know.
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:58 am
by YeOldeStonecat
morbidpete wrote:So do we recommend this over avast? Running Win 7 Ultimate
Avira over Avast
MSE over Avira
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:32 pm
by morbidpete
YeOldeStonecat wrote:Avira over Avast
MSE over Avira
really? avira over avast? never liked avira. i felt like people had more issues with there pc when i switched them to avira.
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:50 pm
by YARDofSTUF
morbidpete wrote:really? avira over avast? never liked avira. i felt like people had more issues with there pc when i switched them to avira.
Shouldnt if you set it to the highest settings, Avira finds more than Avast.
I actually went from NOD32 to Avira and have been happy with its results and performance.
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:58 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
morbidpete wrote:really? avira over avast? never liked avira. i felt like people had more issues with there pc when i switched them to avira.
Always did, found Aviras detection rates a bit better, and I had far far far too many complaints from end users about their systems running slow/bogged down when I would put Avast on their machines.
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:03 pm
by 24giovanni
Using this with avira antivir good enough for my computer's security, malware and what not?
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:25 pm
by CableDude
24giovanni wrote:Using this with avira antivir good enough for my computer's security, malware and what not?
I wouldn't run two AV's at once.

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:55 am
by YeOldeStonecat
CableDude wrote:I wouldn't run two AV's at once.
QFT!

Running 2x (or more) antivirus programs at the same time on a computer, not good for stability, real time protection of each AV can interfere with another, and even reduce the real time protection effectiveness of both. You can disable the real time protection of one and use it just for scans.
24giovanni wrote:Using this with avira antivir good enough for my computer's security, malware and what not?
Many things combined will contribute towards the security of a computer.
No single solution is 100% effective.
*Maintain Microsoft Updates and updates on all other web programs installed
*Don't leave blank Administrator passwords
*Stay away from sources known to be avenues of malware
*Use smarts
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:51 pm
by 24giovanni
IS MS security essentials and what YOSC said above enough then?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:59 pm
by YARDofSTUF
24giovanni wrote:IS MS security essentials and what YOSC said above enough then?
Well that would depend on how effectively you use your smarts.

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:06 pm
by 24giovanni
Does anyone know why when I set it to run a full scan at a certain time that it does not start?
thx
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:24 pm
by 24giovanni
24giovanni wrote:Does anyone know why when I set it to run a full scan at a certain time that it does not start?
thx
it actually does work, it take about 15 minutes to start after the scheduled time. strange

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:36 am
by YeOldeStonecat
MSE rocks man! Yesterday a colleague brought in a hard drive from a PC that would not complete booting to desktop, the screen would simply go solid blue background...mouse cursor was responsive..but nothing else. Not even safe mode.
Slaved drive to our bench PC here, started browsing the users profile directory, right away MSE started to jump up alerts. MSE found about 25 trojans, MalwareBytes found another 32.
And this PC was protected by AVG!

All these trojans slipped past it.
It had been bit by a new rogue variant called XP Deluxe Protector
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-r ... -protector
User was a heavy Facebook user, and Limewire!
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:56 am
by Jamie_R
seems you can still get it
here.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:57 am
by Jamie_R
YeOldeStonecat wrote:User was a heavy Facebook user, and Limewire!
love those .... and they never listen when you try to tell them ...
oh well - repeat business
