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Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:06 am**

Sweet, then go to Vermont, you'll get off scott free!

http://lonestartimes.com/2006/01/05/jud ... hild-rape/

This is ridiculous! How can this nutjob still have the balls to show his face in public?

Oh, poor rapist, he needs rehab! They both belong on the lethal end of a snipers scope!

Judge Cashman also also revealed that he once handed down stiff sentences when he first got on the bench 25 years ago, but he no longer believes in punishment.

Can you believe this hippie? There's a special place in hell for people like this!

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:28 am**

and then Hulett must complete sex treatment when he gets out or face a possible life sentence

Does not say how long treatment is for or where it will take place. Could be in an asylum?

Sorry but I won't take the word of a right-wing site based in a state that allows minors to be strippers seriously.

Full story here
http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=4319605&nav=4QcT

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:10 am**

prey...you really need a new sig...that one just bugs me (the .gif)

I think its the teeth, the bouncing...i dont know!!! but its got to go.

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:11 am**

yeah - I've got some treatment for that sick f*** - it's called the Ruger P-90 method

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:16 am**

thepieman wrote:Does not say how long treatment is for or where it will take place. Could be in an asylum?

Sorry but I won't take the word of a right-wing site based in a state that allows minors to be strippers seriously.

Full story here
http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=4319605&nav=4QcT

It sounds like he has to be in therapy like a daily visit to a sex shrink. Thats not good enough.

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:42 am**

Current thought is that paedophilia cannot be expunged from a deviant's mind. If so, to protect society, he needs to be locked up for life. Further more, he raped someone. The parents of this child, if not the entire community, will desire some level of justice for this crime.

As a point of curiosity, what state paid therapy will the judge suggest for the victim?

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:52 am**

loop2kil wrote:prey...you really need a new sig...that one just bugs me (the .gif)

I think its the teeth, the bouncing...i dont know!!! but its got to go.

Ad Block

Worked for me.

On topic...

This Judge got hold of some bad Crack or something ?

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:36 am**

I'd have to do some googling..but I'd bet that isn't the whole/real story.

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:36 am**

Prey521 wrote:Sweet, then go to Vermont, you'll get off scott free!

http://lonestartimes.com/2006/01/05/jud ... hild-rape/

This is ridiculous! How can this nutjob still have the balls to show his face in public?

Oh, poor rapist, he needs rehab! They both belong on the lethal end of a snipers scope!

Can you believe this hippie? There's a special place in hell for people like this!

"Thank heaven for little girls!!"

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:41 am**

this is sick...i think that judge should be thrown in jail

and another news source

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/12/D8F3H8LG0.html

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:03 am**

# gregg Says:
January 5th, 2006 at 3:45 pm

Normal prisoners look down on child sex offenders and target them for beatings,rapes and sometimes they get killed in prison. Most prisoners have children of their own and resent these scumbags. Methinks this guy will have 60 days of what he is used to. Except this time he wont be pitching,he’ll be catching if you know what I mean.

LOL

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:06 am**

Sad thing is ...If I were the father of the girl I'd probably do more time for assaulting the judge after hearing that sentence than the guy will do for rape.

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:08 am**

This judge is notorious for taking it easy on pedophiles and domestic abusers. He reportedly told a woman that was raped "You have to deal with the harsh realities of life~"!! WTF IS THAT!!! This guy needs to be ousted!!

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:10 am**

Prey521 wrote:This judge is notorious for taking it easy on pedophiles and domestic abusers. He reportedly told a woman that was raped "You have to deal with the harsh realities of life~"!! WTF IS THAT!!! This guy needs to be ousted!!

Maybe the Judge has a secret fetish.

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:11 am**

Prey521 wrote:This judge is notorious for taking it easy on pedophiles and domestic abusers. He reportedly told a woman that was raped "You have to deal with the harsh realities of life~"!! WTF IS THAT!!! This guy needs to be ousted!!

I woulda gone Samuel L. Jackson on his ass

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:11 am**

Izzo wrote:I woulda gone Samuel L. Jackson on his ass

I like that idea!

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:16 am**

Prey521 wrote: He reportedly told a woman that was raped "You have to deal with the harsh realities of life~"!! WTF IS THAT!!! This guy needs to be ousted!!

He needs a harsh reality of his own.

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:42 am**

Izzo wrote:I woulda gone Samuel L. Jackson on his ass

It'll get you drunk!

Posted: **Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:00 pm**

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:35 pm**

Not to rehash this story but tonight on scarborough country he will have this story on. It seems this guy in question is as close to being mentally retarded as you can get, and that had a lot to do with his sentence. The judge apparently could not get him into treatment until his sentence was up so he gave him a light sentence to get him into to treatment faster.

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:43 pm**

The Judge Needs To Be Dragged Behind A Ford
Pick-up For About A 100 Miles
What A Prick

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:37 pm**

Humm....can't say I belive that 60 days for over 3 years worth of rape of a child is right but it also seems that the media is hyping this as ususal.

He never said he didn't belive in punishment. He's said it repeatly that he thinks that punishment isn't enough. I think I'd have to agree with at least that part of his views.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/vermon ... unishment/

Of course like any good public servant, the governor keeps up the media lie...by echoing that original story....Hey sex sells and child abuse is the king of media sales...

The governor, speaking at his news conference Thursday, said "I know the judge has said publicly he doesn't believe in punishment."

Later the governor said, "I believe that if a criminal court judge doesn't believe in punishment than that individual really ought not to be on the bench."

But the transcript released by the court Friday of the court hearing in question shows that Cashman said, "And I keep telling prosecutors, and they won't hear me, that punishment is not enough."

At issue is Cashman's sentencing Jan. 4 of Mark Hulett in District Court in Burlington for sexual abuse of a young girl over a four-year period starting when the girl was 6. The judge sentenced Hulett to just 60 days of jail time and an extended sentence of strict probation because he felt it was essential that Hulett be enrolled in the state's sexual offender program, which could not happen while Hulett was in jail.

The 114-page transcript of the sentencing hearing details testimony of experts for the state and defense on what would be an appropriate sentence for Hulett. The hearing included an emotional plea from the victim's aunt who said the victim will struggle with the effects of the abuse for her entire life.

Now before I get jumped on here...I've already stated that I thought that 60 days was too lenient. Even with say, a lifetime of probation.

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:41 pm**

Rape is sick and disgusting no matter how old the victim. Anyone who commits rape needs to be put away for a very long long time with psychiatric care, cause just putting em in jail won't make them control their urges, they need help.

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:46 pm**

Brent wrote:Rape is sick and disgusting no matter how old the victim. Anyone who commits rape needs to be put away for a very long long time with psychiatric care, cause just putting em in jail won't make them control their urges, they need help.

Cool, then you would agree with what the judge really wanted to do. The minimum time was 3 years..yet he gave the bastard 60 days?

Why? As the newstories point out, the guy can't get help till the end of his sentence and the judge wanted more control over his treatment.

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:50 pm**

they dont deserve treatment...why should state pay for it when it wont do anything?

they will jsut get out and do it again..prison is what they need for life we try too much to rehabd in this country and waste taxpayers money

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:53 pm**

Augustus wrote:they dont deserve treatment...why should state pay for it when it wont do anything?

they will jsut get out and do it again..prison is what they need for life we try too much to rehabd in this country and waste taxpayers money

So let's lock em up for life....That's a good use of taxpayer money eh?

Read the article, Aug......I'd say some sex offenders would never be rehabilitated...and a lot are. The thing is, without treatment and a very long probation, would you say they can fix this problem themselves?

My personal opinon...why should the state pay for it? To help keep them from raping your own child. Is it a good investment? Dunno, but it's better than no investment.

Back to the gist of the thread........

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:55 pm**

downhill wrote:So let's lock em up for life....That's a good use of taxpayer money eh?

Read the article, Aug......I'd say some sex offenders would never be rehabilitated...and a lot are. The thing is, without treatment and a very long probation, would you say they can fix this problem themselves?

My personal opinon...why should the state pay for it? To help keep them from raping your own child. Is it a good investment? Dunno, but it's better than no investment.

because you do the crime you do the time..we are way too lenient on sex offenders especailly against kids in this country as it is...it been proven time and time again therapy and medicine wont do a thing...and i rather see them in prison

rather taxpayer money go to keeping them in prison and prevent any chance from them acting out ever again then give them rehab

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:03 pm**

These people have urges, lot's of people have urges, we can control ours, I'm sure you've wanted to kill someone before, or who knows what else, but we control our urges. People that rape, kill, whatever, cannot control their urges, they do not control them. They need help in controlling them, or getting rid of the urges alltogether. Simply throwing them in jail for 20 years or whatever will not get rid of the urges, and will not help them control them.

They need to be in jail, yes, to protect society, and while they are in there they need to seek help to control or get rid of those urges.

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:11 pm**

Brent wrote:These people have urges, lot's of people have urges, we can control ours, I'm sure you've wanted to kill someone before, or who knows what else, but we control our urges. People that rape, kill, whatever, cannot control their urges, they do not control them. They need help in controlling them, or getting rid of the urges alltogether. Simply throwing them in jail for 20 years or whatever will not get rid of the urges, and will not help them control them.

They need to be in jail, yes, to protect society, and while they are in there they need to seek help to control or get rid of those urges.

heck i dont care if they get treatment in prison..but they still need to go away for a real long time...giving them 60 days or even 2 years...is not enough...

myself i believe they should get life

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:19 pm**

Augustus wrote:heck i dont care if they get treatment in prison..but they still need to go away for a real long time...giving them 60 days or even 2 years...is not enough...

i agree, it should be longer than that

what i'm saying is put em in prison, gotta pay for their crimes as well as to protect society, but while they are in there seek therapy, cause prison alone will not fix them

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:22 pm**

Brent wrote:i agree, it should be longer than that

what i'm saying is put em in prison, gotta pay for their crimes as well as to protect society, but while they are in there seek therapy, cause prison alone will not fix them

And that is what the judge is saying.

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:37 pm**

Brent wrote:i agree, it should be longer than that

what i'm saying is put em in prison, gotta pay for their crimes as well as to protect society, but while they are in there seek therapy, cause prison alone will not fix them

i say put them in prison in life and then let the state pay for the victim's therapy because he/she will need it for a long time.

we are not talking about something that can be cured. they will never be a normal person in society.

Look at how many get out and even with treatment do the same thign..and next time they get worst and sometimes kill like that story in FLA recently, if that person was in prison, the kid would be alive..now tell that to the parents of the dead kid.

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:40 pm**

Did the parents of this child permit this guy to share a bed with her for a few years?

Posted: **Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:59 pm**

Augustus wrote:i say put them in prison in life and then let the state pay for the victim's therapy because he/she will need it for a long time.

we are not talking about something that can be cured. they will never be a normal person in society.

Look at how many get out and even with treatment do the same thign..and next time they get worst and sometimes kill like that story in FLA recently, if that person was in prison, the kid would be alive..now tell that to the parents of the dead kid.

Funny you should be mentioning therapy for the victim....In many cases, those end up being the abuser. So what is it? Therapy untill they abuse?

Posted: **Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:00 am**

a round of therapy for everyone!

seriously though, you can't say the guy will never be cured, it is possible, he has more of a chance going through therapy then he does just being locked up in prison for xx amount of years, with no help

Posted: **Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:31 am**

downhill wrote:Funny you should be mentioning therapy for the victim....In many cases, those end up being the abuser. So what is it? Therapy untill they abuse?

another misconception...yeesh where do people get their info

Posted: **Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:34 am**

i cannot believe i am even debating this..it seems some care more about the perp then the victim and possible victims..if you havent noticeed we have a real serious problem in this country with child sex abusers...i am sure if this happened to your daughter people would feel toally different.

lock them all up and that is the damn cure and let them be in a cell with someone who will enjoy ripping them to pieces

Posted: **Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:04 am**

Augustus wrote:another misconception...yeesh where do people get their info

I get mine from a lot of reading. I'm not fond of believe what I hear on talk radio....

Let me do some googling for you....

http://www.ktk.ru/~cm/molester.htm

57% of child molesters were molested themselves as children. [6]

6. Goldstein-Harte Study 1973; Carter et al, "Use of Pornography in the Criminal and Developmental Histories of Sexual Offenders," 1984.

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There are other links but for the most part, echo that figure.

Posted: **Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:05 am**

Augustus wrote:i cannot believe i am even debating this..it seems some care more about the perp then the victim and possible victims..if you havent noticeed we have a real serious problem in this country with child sex abusers...i am sure if this happened to your daughter people would feel toally different.

lock them all up and that is the damn cure and let them be in a cell with someone who will enjoy ripping them to pieces

Then don't debate it. Nobody is DEFENDING it persay. Some just have a differing opinion on what to do to fix it.

I only jumped back in this thread to discuss the point that how the thread was presented, certinly wasn't the whole picture. It turns out it wasn't even close to the truth.

Posted: **Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:50 am**

[quote="downhill"]I get mine from a lot of reading. I'm not fond of believe what I hear on talk radio....

Let me do some googling for you....

http://www.ktk.ru/~cm/molester.htm

57% of child molesters were molested themselves as children. [6]

6. Goldstein-Harte Study 1973]

whoppedoo..and how many were abused and never abused anyone?

we dont know becuase most abuse is never ever reported. it impossible to study..so 1% of abusers were abused big deal..doesnt mean anything

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