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Zilog B wrote:You aren't suggesting that you can breast feed a baby and watch a child in the pool at the same time are you?

Sure you can...they aren't sucking your eyeballs!!!!

Seriously, though, I wouldn't leave a two year old without being by his side, but a 4, 5, 6 year old....sure, I'd sit out while they swam in sight.

I don't think there's anything wrong with breast feeding...I don't think anyone is trying to say that.

But doing it in a rather public place (Yes a Y pool is still quite a public hangout)...I don't think that's cool. IMO breast feeding should be done somewhat in privacy....it's somewhat of an intimate thing IMO.

Izzo wrote:I have 2 children.

Did you wife breastfeed them?

My wife tries her best to be as discrete as possible. Truth to tell, we do not get all that much for it to be an issue. Still, if a mother has her breast covered while the infant is suckling, it should not be a cause for alarm. It is indeed far less of a distraction than twenty year girl wearing a revealing swim suit.

YeOldeStonecat wrote:....it's somewhat of an intimate thing IMO.

No no no! We're talking about breastfeeding kids, not like when you breastfed your 15k cheetah.

Hell_Yes wrote:Did you wife breastfeed them?

My wife tries her best to be as discrete as possible. Truth to tell, we do not get all that much for it to be as much of an issue. Still, if a mother has her breast covered while the infant is suckling, it should not be a cause for alarm. It is indeed far less of a distraction than twenty year girl wearing revealing swim suit.

No, she didn't. Just the fact your wife tries to be discrete shows consideration. The way the article reads is that they appear to want to be able to just whip it out 'willy-nipply'....to me it shows a lack of consideration for others. If in fact they were using discretion it wouldn't bother me at all....in fact it doesn't bother me at all. I was bored.

YARDofSTUF wrote:No no no! We're talking about breastfeeding kids, not like when you breastfed your 15k cheetah.

That wasn't his breast....

Hell_Yes wrote:That wasn't his breast....

Well I didnt hang around to here the whole story.

Izzo wrote:No, she didn't. Just the fact your wife tries to be discrete shows consideration. The way the article reads is that they appear to want to be able to just whip it out 'willy-nipply'....to me it shows a lack of consideration for others. If in fact they were using discretion it wouldn't bother me at all....in fact it doesn't bother me at all. I was bored.

To repeat, breastfed babies are on demand for their nursing. They are not made to wait.

Are these mothers trying cover themselves at all?

YARDofSTUF wrote:Well I didnt hang around to here the whole story.

Wise move, Alan!

Zilog B wrote:You aren't suggesting that you can breast feed a baby and watch a child in the pool at the same time are you?

You would be surprised what some gentlemen think they can do simultaneously.....

http://www.iloveroadhead.com/

Hell_Yes wrote:To repeat, breastfed babies are on demand for their nursing. They are not made to wait.

Are these mothers trying cover themselves at all?

They're not gonna starve within the ~15ft to the locker room...they might pierce a few ears along the way but I'm sure they'll be fine.


My children were bottle fed and when they were hungry they cried just like any other baby would. I mean that's all we're talking about is a crying baby right? ... their life isn't going to be in danger by waiting 2 minutes.

Hell_Yes wrote:
Are these mothers trying cover themselves at all?

I don't know.

YeOldeStonecat wrote:I don't think there's anything wrong with breast feeding...I don't think anyone is trying to say that.

But doing it in a rather public place (Yes a Y pool is still quite a public hangout)...I don't think that's cool. IMO breast feeding should be done somewhat in privacy....it's somewhat of an intimate thing IMO.

I agree completely

Izzo wrote:They're not gonna starve within the ~15ft to the locker room...they might pierce a few ears along the way but I'm sure they'll be fine.


My children were bottle fed and when they were hungry they cried just like any other baby would. I mean that's all we're talking about is a crying baby right? ... their life isn't going to be in danger by waiting 2 minutes.

No question that they could move, as long as they did not have other children to mind.

my my, the controversy that a few boobies stir up!
have 'em feed the babies anyway they want in the designated areas for food.
Breast feeding is not all that good for a baby anyway, only in the first few weeks, so the baby can get more of mom's antibodies, and taht's about it.

Breast milk is not all that nutritious. A baby needs high protein, not the crap sold in supermarkets either, but real healthy formula. Ever see those fat bloated babies? It's all carbs from crappy formula.

Hell_Yes wrote:Wise move, Alan!

Its always nice to see a highly educated person agrees with me

I say that cuz unlike alot of others, you spell my name right!

Izzo wrote:I don't know.

Would it be germane to this discussion? I agree that they should at least try to cover up with a blanket or towel.

Hell_Yes wrote:Would it be germane to this discussion? I agree that they should at least try to cover up with a blanket or towel.

Yes it would.

Hell_Yes wrote:No question that they could move, as long as they did not have other children to mind.

Right.

TonyT wrote:my my, the controversy that a few boobies stir up!
have 'em feed the babies anyway they want in the designated areas for food.
Breast feeding is not all that good for a baby anyway, only in the first few weeks, so the baby can get more of mom's antibodies, and taht's about it.

Breast milk is not all that nutritious. A baby needs high protein,....

Are you quite certain of that?

TonyT wrote:my my, the controversy that a few boobies stir up!
have 'em feed the babies anyway they want in the designated areas for food.
Breast feeding is not all that good for a baby anyway, only in the first few weeks, so the baby can get more of mom's antibodies, and taht's about it.

Breast milk is not all that nutritious. A baby needs high protein, not the crap sold in supermarkets either, but real healthy formula. Ever see those fat bloated babies? It's all carbs from crappy formula.

Tell me about it ....My children had trouble taking regular formula. Nutramigen is the only thing they could take ....damn near 30.00 a can

Hell_Yes wrote:Are you quite certain of that?

Why yes. Just 3 months ago I lost about 20 lbs in a week because the breast milk I was being fed did not have the required nutritional...

All kidding aside, not all breast milk is deficient in nutrition, vitamins, etc. It depends on whose breast it is. On-the-go mothers, who are busy lugging around other kids, food shopping, housework, rarely have enough nutrition in their bodies to sustain themselves, yet alone an infant via breat milk. Smoking mothers' milk tastes horrible. This I can attest to.

One should consider that breast milk contains traces of all that has been consimed by mom. Preservatives, toxins, drugs, alcohol, food dye, other chemicals, minerals, vitamins, tap water chemicals, etc.

They all add up to a very foul unhealthy concoction for today's infants UNLESS mom eats whole foods, drinks distilled or spring water, takes no drugs, no booze, doesn't ever smoke, doesn't go outside and breath polluted air, gets some exercize, gets sufficient rest & sleep, etc. etc.

As for an infant needing protein, it is harder for the infant to digest, and a high protein diet for infants may result in some constipation, but it is better to feed an infant that than to keep it supressed and subdued with today's sugar filled formulas. And infant does need carbs, corn syrup is a good choice, but in proper quantities.

We made our own formula for our 3 kids, none were ever fat & bloated and all were very healthy throught infancy & early childhood.

However...

My position on what parents with infants should do has always this:
(this is only advice I ever give new parents)

"Everybody & thgeir brother will give you advice, my advice to you is ignore 99% of it and go with your own instincts and own good judgement. Forget the manuals & baby books. If a baby cries, it's OK. If a baby cries for more than 10 minutes, something is wrong, but it's usually something simple like wet nappies, hungry, tired, indigestion or a combo of the above."

Zilog B wrote:Whipping a hooter out when the pimply faced 13 year old Izzy is lifeguarding is a bad idea. Too distracting, and yes they will all look.

WOW! I had no idea that Izzy was only 13... and had pimples...

Ken wrote:WOW! I had no idea that Izzy was only 13... and had pimples...

maybe 20 years ago ...

It always amazes me how many people think that others should always be considerate, yet they have no trouble insulting others beliefs or disturbing others.

WTF do you people really care anyway? You don't have to look, pay attention to your own children and quit worrying so damn much about what others are doing.

The same people that say "live and let live" are always the same that bitch when others try to live as they want.

You people defend gay marriages as their right, a womans right to abortion as her right, yet a mother can't breast feed in a public place. Grow the **** up already.

Have a nice day.

TonyT wrote:Why yes. Just 3 months ago I lost about 20 lbs in a week because the breast milk I was being fed did not have the required nutritional...

All kidding aside, not all breast milk is deficient in nutrition, vitamins, etc. It depends on whose breast it is. On-the-go mothers, who are busy lugging around other kids, food shopping, housework, rarely have enough nutrition in their bodies to sustain themselves, yet alone an infant via breat milk. Smoking mothers' milk tastes horrible. This I can attest to.

One should consider that breast milk contains traces of all that has been consimed by mom. Preservatives, toxins, drugs, alcohol, food dye, other chemicals, minerals, vitamins, tap water chemicals, etc.

They all add up to a very foul unhealthy concoction for today's infants UNLESS mom eats whole foods, drinks distilled or spring water, takes no drugs, no booze, doesn't ever smoke, doesn't go outside and breath polluted air, gets some exercize, gets sufficient rest & sleep, etc. etc.

As for an infant needing protein, it is harder for the infant to digest, and a high protein diet for infants may result in some constipation, but it is better to feed an infant that than to keep it supressed and subdued with today's sugar filled formulas. And infant does need carbs, corn syrup is a good choice, but in proper quantities.

We made our own formula for our 3 kids, none were ever fat & bloated and all were very healthy throught infancy & early childhood.

However...

My position on what parents with infants should do has always this:
(this is only advice I ever give new parents)

"Everybody & thgeir brother will give you advice, my advice to you is ignore 99% of it and go with your own instincts and own good judgement. Forget the manuals & baby books. If a baby cries, it's OK. If a baby cries for more than 10 minutes, something is wrong, but it's usually something simple like wet nappies, hungry, tired, indigestion or a combo of the above."

I think with a little research you will find your information to be flawed.

No formula can even come close to the nutritional value of breastmilk. Even formula companies know this and will put the little disclaimers at the bottoms of their commercial "breastmilk is best"

There are components in breastmilk that science cannot even identify.

Breast milk does not contain a trace of everything the mother consumes. Just as some things do not cross the placenta to the baby during pregnancy, neither do some things cross to the baby during nursing. Now, I am not saying some drug addicted malnourished crack head needs to be nursing. But it is wrong to imply that unless you are at the peak of nutrition that your baby will not get the nutrients it needs. If a mother lacks a nutrient, it will be HER that will lack, not the baby, because her body will take what it needs for the child from the mother's stores.

The mother's body will also regulate the content of breast milk...if a baby needs vitamin A, the milk will contain more vitamin A, if the baby is going through a growth spurt (and therefore nursing more often) and needs more protein and sugars, yes, sugars, the breastmilk will contain more protein and sugars during those times than others.

Overall, breastfed babies are smarter and healthier. Of course we all know the exception to the rules, but on the whole, they are smarter and healthier.

There is no credible debate that can be brought that breastmilk is not superior....that is, if you give credence to conventional modern science and medicine.

Scott wrote:It always amazes me how many people think that others should always be considerate, yet they have no trouble insulting others beliefs or disturbing others.

WTF do you people really care anyway? You don't have to look, pay attention to your own children and quit worrying so damn much about what others are doing.

The same people that say "live and let live" are always the same that bitch when others try to live as they want.

You people defend gay marriages as their right, a womans right to abortion as her right, yet a mother can't breast feed in a public place. Grow the **** up already.

Have a nice day.

lol...I love you.

i like breasts

Brent wrote:i like breasts

*******.

OK, how to say this. I have seen thousands of breasts and have no problem breast feeding in public... Just Saturday, they were taking my picture doing just that...

Actually, in many countries, topless is no big deal. It is just a boob with a nip... (We all have them, except for the deformed, such as Immy... ) To be quite honest, a T-back reveals far more "intimate" areas... And look out when they bend over wearing a t-back...

Have you guys ever looked closely at old masters' paintings that show town squares? If not, you should... Yes, they are doing what it looks like they are doing...

Society "teaches" or mandates what is accepted, often with no more reason than it offended 1 person, nevermind the countless others that it didn't offend...

Tampon dispensers in public bathrooms! Oh my!!! Condom dispensers!!! OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!!11111

Banned in Boston? Ever heard of that? A boob was showing on a currency note, and someones wife took offence, so they were banned in Boston... Because 1 person took offence... Hell, you had better not go to Canada as they still have a note with a boob showing, in circulation...

Picking your nose is perfectly accepted in many countries, yet is the grossest thing to many...

Well, you want to know what grosses me out? People that sit on the can and take a dump, get up and not wash their hands... Nasty bastards!! THAT is a health hazard. Everything that they touch, they contaminate with fecal matter... It doesn't matter whether it doesn't look like you have crap on your finger, you have the bacteria... You don't think that a few layers of toilet paper protect you from the germs, do ya? Same thing with taking a leak...

I often wonder what logic and thought process people use when they choose which crusade/bandwagon/cause, etc... It most cases, I think that they merely like to rebel against society as a way to make them feel equal to others... Capable of looking at themselves in a mirror...

Back on topic...
My problem is why do they always call the police when I breast feed in public?

Scott wrote:*******.

I like your breasts

A mothers anti-biotics and immune system are one of the major reasons that breast milk is best...

[quote="Ken"]A mothers anti-biotics and immune system are one of the major reasons that breast milk is best... ]

I need to find some mothers and test this out myself

Ken wrote:...Hell, you had better not go to Canada as they still have a note with a boob showing, in circulation...

Wait....What?

Boobs, lol.

Jarngrimr wrote:Wait....What?

Boobs, lol.

Doesn't one of your dollars, maybe $10 or $20, still have a boob showing on it?
Minir probably knows what I am refering to... Maybe it doesn't circulate anymore...

Ken, Scott, Emily, and Hell-Yes..... straight on. The rest of you need to get a grip on reality, and what is actually important. This is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Nearly bare-as*ed little nubile things running around the pool in bikinis are NOT a distraction, but a mother sitting on the side, breast feeding an infant is a "distraction"?? WTF. Complete crap.

Ken wrote:Doesn't one of your dollars, maybe $10 or $20, still have a boob showing on it?
Minir probably knows what I am refering to... Maybe it doesn't circulate anymore...

http://www.vancouver.hm/money.html

Sorry...Off topic. Back to the discussion.

emilyb wrote:I think with a little research you will find your information to be flawed.

Yes, VERY flawed.

twwabw wrote:Ken, Scott, Emily, and Hell-Yes..... straight on. The rest of you need to get a grip on reality, and what is actually important. This is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Nearly bare-as*ed little nubile things running around the pool in bikinis are NOT a distraction, but a mother sitting on the side, breast feeding an infant is a "distraction"?? WTF. Complete crap.

Another that misses the point completely

Izzo wrote:Another that misses the point completely

Weak. "Oh no, now what do I do, oh I know, throw the 'you just don't get it' out there.". Point is, who ****ing cares? You don't have the right not be offended, especially when you do plenty of offending yourself.