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[quote="BroncoSport"]It really surprises me, these days, on what people think the "freedom of speech" should include. Last time I looked speech doesn't contain some mysterious fuel that ignites instantly on a flag. Exactly what part of my freedom of speech would this restrain??? This amendment would not stop anyone’s right to speak up about the things that they are against.

Personally I could care less either way if this passes. I will not EVER burn a United States flag nor would I ever permit it to be done in my presence. And just for the record, I do mean with bodily harm.

So when I think of flag burning I think instantly of the TV images of these “armpits of the world” that have hordes of backwards uncivilized mobs jumping up and down screaming death to America, our leaders, our people, burning our flag and oh yeah praise be to Allah.

So when our own citizens to the same practice of flag burning, they are in essence saying the EXACT same thing, except for the Allah part because I believe most flag burners are most likely Atheist.

If 99.9% of the citizens realize that the flag represents all that we, as a country, have fought and died for (for ourselves and other countries)]
Amen Dude!!
We are not talking about 'speech' and its freedoms but the act of destroying
a great symbol not to be disgarded to the side of the road...

UOD wrote:Lastly....WTF, is this how we arm my fellow brothers in arms over in OIF/OEF? Is this how we come up with funds to armor humvees? Is this the best Congress can do to arm our troops with body armor?

Oh yeah...funny how Flag Burning has become so prominent in our country that it requires the UTMOST URGENCY in CONGRESSIONAL ACTION!!!!! Yet....our own soldiers continue to BUY THEIR OWN BODY ARMOR so they can try to come home alive.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-03-26-body-armor_x.htm

Great...just friggin great folks.

When was the last time you saw a flag burning live? It amazes me how flag burning gets people all worked up yet dead soldiers due to a lack of government INACTION doesn't even bother folks.



So let's mail a letter to each widow, mother, father, etc, of a lost son/daughter and tell them that Congress was too busy spending money on printing costs associated with the formation of this bogus legislation when they could have been providing the funds to arm our troops.

Oh yeah....I'm an active duty military member, 15 years, teach anti-terrorism to our folks going over in the box.

--out!

It is called misdirection. Whip the laity into a froth over trivial emotional issues, while the powers steal from the plate.

nepenthe wrote:It is called misdirection. Whip the laity into a froth over trivial emotional issues, while the powers steal from the plate.

and one last time ... this is what it's all about ...agree or not

America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You've got to want it bad, because it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say, "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil who is standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours. You want to claim this land as the 'land of the free'? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then you can stand up and sing about the 'land of the free'.

Izzo wrote:and one last time ... this is what it's all about ...agree or not

For your edification, please refer to my aforementioned post......

It is misdirection.

nepenthe wrote:For your edification, please refer to my aforementioned post......

It is misdirection.

noted....and understood perfectly ... however just giving my opinion in this silly flag issue

There's only ONE reason why they would even begin to suggest legislation like this...

Its good for smear campaigns against democrats... They can be called "flag burners" by just voting down this peice of legislation... There's no realistic way that this bill will get past Congress...

BroncoSport wrote:So when our own citizens to the same practice of flag burning, they are in essence saying the EXACT same thing, except for the Allah part because I believe most flag burners are most likely Atheist.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... wow.

People burn the flag from all walks of life in this country, and any other country. Not just Atheists or Christians or Islam.

Forgive me, I have not read this entire thread, only the original post and a few others, if this has been said my apologies.

IMO it's all about respect for this country, if you burn the flag you are being very disrespectful, its like spitting on your parents saying "phhh, I hate you", anyone who goes that far should just leave.

I mean really, what's burning the flag going to change? If you really really really don't like the country and would go to such a low to burn a flag which represents our country then why don't you just leave? No one is forcing you to stay here.

Burning the flag is not the proper way to have a demonstration and preach your beliefs on political policy.

Laws like these wouldn't have to be made if people would just stop being idiots.