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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:03 am
by nepenthe
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:29 am
by YeOldeStonecat
Originally posted by Paft
do any of you know what Endorphins are? They're the chemicals released that help humans feel pleasure. And sex, including masturbation, releases endorphins so the person doing the acts is happier and mentally healthier.
Actually their primary purpose is to relieve pain, basically a natural analgesic ones body releases to help manage times of stress the body may be under.
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:53 am
by zooner
when my wife gets pregant, she doesnt like sex.
period.
I use porn during these downtimes to avoid building up bad feelings against her.
During our ten years together, there have been other times when she's grown distasteful of sex because of things that have happened.
using porn during those 'down' times have helped me keep a loving and tender relationship with her by releasing my own needs that temporarly cant be satisfied by her.
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 9:09 am
by Roody
I have total respect for you Zooner, but forgive me if I say TMI TMI.
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 9:27 am
by Spicer
Originally posted by nepenthe
Is that what you were able to gleen from my post? Should have spent a little more time with it....
David.....The post had some good points....
Nothing that will influence my personal experiences (Both in my own relationship and others..)....
Sex is like every other issue in a marriage, it needs to be nurtured...enhanced and maintained!
After making love to the same lady for over 20 yrs....I can honestly say, there is no difference in the passion and enthusiasm put foward by either participant.We have never had the need to involve ourselves with Porn..We also know many people in the same boat!.
As a matter of fact I do believe in many areas it has gotten better...We are far too often like rabbits..Stop the car on a back road, sneak into the bathroom when no ones watching, high miler club..Etc,Etc...LOL!!.
Now I'm not going into this issue in *Great Balls Of Fire* Details..
..I can say, my wife is multi orgasmic, to the point of extreme numbers in a love making session, as high as 30 in 45 minutes..I'm talking leg shaking, can't hardly move afterwards experiences..
Enough!..
I will ask those of you that do require the Pornography to become stimulated......??
At what time factor after your marriage did you find yourselves needing this...How many years into your marriage...How Long Did It Take for something that was *Once There* to go away..??
Cheers
Spice
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 9:28 am
by Cypher
Fantastic and insightful post there David. I agree with all the points that you have made.
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 9:46 am
by Debbie
Originally posted by Spicer
David.....The post had some good points....
Nothing that will influence my personal experiences (Both in my own relationship and others..)....
Sex is like every other issue in a marriage, it needs to be nurtured...enhanced and maintained!
After making love to the same lady for over 20 yrs....I can honestly say, there is no difference in the passion and enthusiasm put foward by either participant.We have never had the need to involve ourselves with Porn..We also know many people in the same boat!.
As a matter of fact I do believe in many areas it has gotten better...We are far too often like rabbits..Stop the car on a back road, sneak into the bathroom when no ones watching, high miler club..Etc,Etc...LOL!!.
Now I'm not going into this issue in *Great Balls Of Fire* Details.. ..I can say, my wife is multi orgasmic, to the point of extreme numbers in a love making session, as high as 30 in 45 minutes..I'm talking leg shaking, can't hardly move afterwards experiences..
Enough!..
I will ask those of you that do require the Pornography to become stimulated......??
At what time factor after your marriage did you find yourselves needing this...How many years into your marriage...How Long Did It Take for something that was *Once There* to go away..??
Cheers Spice
I do feel that this is an individual thing. However, I do agree with Spicer on this one. If the passion dissipates in the relationship, it is important to look at the reasons and to be willing to heal that aspect of the relationship.
Another factor is the individuals attitude and feelings about sex and being totally open with their partner. I have a friend who is so afraid to open up sexually to her man. She is in therapy to help deal with the issues at hand. When she was growing up, her mother was always pounding in her head about how sex is bad for you. That was her mother's way of keeping her daughter from even getting slighty curious.
As far as pregnancy is concerned, when I was pregnant with my son, I wanted to have sex until the day I went into labor. Again, this is an individual situation. I do feel that the factor is the level of estrogen vs progesterone during that 9 month time frame. Not every pregnancy is the same.
There are so many viewpoints on this topic of which I totally understand where you all are coming from. This, however, IMHO.
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:02 am
by zooner
when my wife gets pregant, she doesnt like sex.
period.
I use porn during these downtimes to avoid building up bad feelings against her.
During our ten years together, there have been other times when she's grown distasteful of sex because of things that have happened.
using porn during those 'down' times have helped me keep a loving and tender relationship with her by releasing my own needs that temporarly cant be satisfied by her.
Originally posted by Roody
I have total respect for you Zooner, but forgive me if I say TMI TMI.
what's tmi mean?
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:27 am
by Zilog B
Originally posted by zooner
what's tmi mean?
too much information
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:30 am
by Spicer
Originally posted by zooner
During our ten years together, there have been other times when she's grown distasteful of sex because of things that have happened.
.
Zooner.....I don't know you, what you're like or how you treat the Lady..??
I do know this....I'm 48 yrs old, my wife, who I love more than life itself is 40 yrs old....
Don't go thinking we have any different apparatus than you or anyone else in this forum....*We Don't*..
I could care less about Size,Quantity,Appearances....Yada Yada!!
You start out by placing some 400 softly touched kisses (Those almost touching mostly breathing type..LOL!) between the ankles and the glory spot of a willing recipient..Then get to the spot and Drop Down as a tease to the other leg and do the exact same thing 400 more lightly spoken kisses...LOL!!....
I gotta tell ya Mountains Move, Moons Lose There Focus, Fireworks Shoot of the Bedroom walls...Yoe!!....Butcha don't stop there...No No...You keep that rush happnin....Don't stop till they beg for lust....LOL!!
Now I'm not going into this any further....I will say, you take the time,consideration and search the knowledge of Spots,Pressure Points and Erotic Zones....You can throw your Sex Organs aside for quite awhile in this particular heat wave....Let your fingers do the walkin....Yoe!!
As I said....I am not any better equipped than anyone, I have no special tools to qualify....I do have the Care and Consideration of the Lady I Love more than anything in my heart and I am at any time a totally willing participant in proving that point!
Ya'll focus on the films yoe.....I'll focus on the high points..LOL!!
Cheers Zooner
Spice.....*Getting With The Program*..
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:40 am
by Zilog B
this thread is turning into pron
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:42 am
by Spicer
Originally posted by schlurpee
this thread is turning into pron
No actually.....*It's Not*
Spice
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:46 am
by Debbie
Sad State Of Affairs....
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:49 am
by Spicer
When grown people, married loving couples tell the world...
They need to sit down and watch a few jag offs on the tube *Bumpin Uglies* for awhile before they can find the desire or enhance the desire to make love....
Give Me A Break......Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh!!!!!!!!
I'm done with this one...Unfreekinbelievable...YOE!!
Fix The Problems....Face The Issues!
Spice
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:51 am
by Spicer
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:24 pm
by Roody
Originally posted by schlurpee
too much information
Yeah..btw, I was just kidding you Zooner just so you know.
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:31 pm
by Meggie
im not saying u should NEED the porn for sex, or even want it on a regular basis. Thrown into the mix though it can be a welcome variety. Jeez guys, have fun, try new things.
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:37 pm
by Spicer
Originally posted by Meggie
Jeez guys, have fun, try new things.
Well......New things are always great.....Why mess with perfection.....LMAO!!
You go ahead and watch the flicks.....We don't need to obviously
Spice
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:48 pm
by Rouse
I think Religion does more damage than Porn ever could on a global scale.
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:54 pm
by Spicer
Originally posted by Rouse
I think Religion does more damage than Porn ever could on a global scale.
Ya....I think for some it does....
Not much for Religiousity myself...
Spice
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:57 pm
by 9mmprincess
Originally posted by Spicer
Well......New things are always great.....Why mess with perfection.....LMAO!!
You go ahead and watch the flicks.....We don't need to obviously Spice
when are you going to get that its not about "need"? i dont NEED porn. its something i like sometimes to watch with my bf..just like tabasco sauce is something i like sometimes on my eggs. doesnt mean i NEED it to eat eggs-i love eggs and would eat them everyday
without tabasco. seewhutimean?
and rouse, i wholeheartedly agree with you.
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:58 pm
by Spicer
Originally posted by 9mmprincess
when are you going to get that its not about "need"? i dont NEED porn.
Ya I Know.....We don't Need It Either....LOL!!
Spice
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:00 pm
by Roody
Originally posted by Rouse
I think Religion does more damage than Porn ever could on a global scale.
If a person doesn't properly investigate different religions or give it a chance I would tend to agree. Religious people are no more perfect then anyone else. If a non-believer lets a religious person turn them away because that religious person or church they attended did something wrong then they arent trying hard enough IMO.
Giving up on it due to a human beings reaction or response misses the point.
Anyway, that went off topic, but I had to address your response.
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:01 pm
by Darlin Nikki
jeffrey dahmer also blamed porn for his habit of oh i dunno killing young men then eating them
and its also a copout to blame porn on the decline of a marriage for goodness sake, people need to look a little deeper into the relationship itself without blaming outside influence or something as silly as porn
and p.s.
Calling people involved in porn the scum of the earth is extremly judgemental
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:03 pm
by 9mmprincess
Originally posted by Spicer
Ya I Know.....We don't Need It Either....LOL!! Spice
*reminds self never to try to have an intellectual debate with a fundamentalist*.
It's an Amazing Situation here....
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:04 pm
by Spicer
There are so many threads including Faith on a site where no one likes to talk about *Faith/Christianity...Eek...Religion!!*....They are the most used threads in the joint......LMAO!!
I Love Ya'll...Priceless...
....No Really I Doo
Spice
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:04 pm
by 9mmprincess
Originally posted by Darlin' Nikki
jeffrey dahmer also blamed porn for his habit of oh i dunno killing young men then eating them
and its also a copout to blame porn on the decline of a marriage for goodness sake, people need to look a little deeper into the relationship itself without blaming outside influence or something as silly as porn
and p.s.
Calling people involved in porn the scum of the earth is extremly judgemental
<3 <3
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:05 pm
by Spicer
Originally posted by 9mmprincess
*reminds self never to try to have an intellectual debate with a fundamentalist*.
Thanks......
Spice
Re: It's an Amazing Situation here....
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:06 pm
by 9mmprincess
Originally posted by Spicer
There are so many threads including Faith on a site where no one likes to talk about *Faith/Christianity...Eek...Religion!!*....They are the most used threads in the joint......LMAO!!
I Love Ya'll...Priceless... ....No Really I Doo Spice
but one more thing before i go-
god is a construct of man.
and..religion is the opiate of the masses
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:07 pm
by Spicer
Originally posted by Darlin' Nikki
jeffrey dahmer also blamed porn for his habit of oh i dunno killing young men then eating them
Well....Maybe Jeff did get cranked from his *Theatrical Encounters*..LOL!!
I don't know...
Spice
Re: Re: It's an Amazing Situation here....
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:07 pm
by Spicer
Originally posted by 9mmprincess
but one more thing before i go-
god is a construct of man.
and..religion is the opiate of the masses
Very Good.......Thanks for running that by me....
Spice
Re: Re: It's an Amazing Situation here....
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:11 pm
by Darlin Nikki
Re: Re: Re: It's an Amazing Situation here....
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:15 pm
by Spicer
Originally posted by Darlin' Nikki
"Our fathers were our models for God. If our fathers bailed, what does that tell you about God? Listen to me. You have to consider the possibility that God does not like you. He never wanted you. In all probability, he hates you. It's not the worst thing that can happen to you. We don't need him. Fxxx damnation, man. Fxxx redemption. We are God's unwanted children, SO BE IT! First you have to give up. First, you have to know, not fear, that someday, you're gonna die. It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything." -Tyler Durden
Well.........I'll definately consider it......Not like i haven't heard it before about 9000 different ways...
BUT...I'll weigh the motions and give it it's due recognition!!
...Cheers
..
Spice
Re: Re: Re: It's an Amazing Situation here....
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:18 pm
by 9mmprincess
Originally posted by Darlin' Nikki
"Our fathers were our models for God. If our fathers bailed, what does that tell you about God? Listen to me. You have to consider the possibility that God does not like you. He never wanted you. In all probability, he hates you. It's not the worst thing that can happen to you. We don't need him. Fxxx damnation, man. Fxxx redemption. We are God's unwanted children, SO BE IT! First you have to give up. First, you have to know, not fear, that someday, you're gonna die. It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything." -Tyler Durden
*sighs* i love that quote
Re: Re: Re: It's an Amazing Situation here....
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:51 pm
by Blisster
Originally posted by Darlin' Nikki
"Our fathers were our models for God. If our fathers bailed, what does that tell you about God? Listen to me. You have to consider the possibility that God does not like you. He never wanted you. In all probability, he hates you. It's not the worst thing that can happen to you. We don't need him. Fxxx damnation, man. Fxxx redemption. We are God's unwanted children, SO BE IT! First you have to give up. First, you have to know, not fear, that someday, you're gonna die. It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything." -Tyler Durden
First my father dumped me, and then Tyler dumped me....I am Jack's broken heart
Re: Re: Re: Re: It's an Amazing Situation here....
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:02 pm
by 9mmprincess
Originally posted by Blisster
First my father dumped me, and then Tyler dumped me....I am Jack's broken heart
hahaha
Re: Re: Re: Re: It's an Amazing Situation here....
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:02 pm
by Spicer
Originally posted by Blisster
First my father dumped me, and then Tyler dumped me....I am Jack's broken heart
LOL!!......
.........
Spice
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:03 pm
by Roody
Never did think Tyler was that smart of a man.
Re: Re: It's an Amazing Situation here....
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:19 pm
by nepenthe
Originally posted by 9mmprincess
but one more thing before i go-
god is a construct of man.
and..religion is the opiate of the masses
Like Marxism is the opiate of the intellectuals....
Rouse,
There is nothing wrong with religion, per se. It is those whose machinations bend minds toward evil that are malevolent. I apologize for utilizing the most tired example of evil and mass mind manipulation, but Hitler.... Did he use religion to forge his population into "The Aryan Race" who were destined to rule the planet? Was it the promise of riches that drove the Mongolian Horde across Asian and into Europe or was it faith?
At this point in time, religion has been replaced by television with Barry Diller, Ruppert Murdoch and their ilk as your pantheon of self made gods.
Evil people hide behind religion, not the other way around.
I had seen porn are relatively harmless myself, until I began to read into the mechanisms of the sex trade. It was not from some right wing source that it first caught my eye. There are some seriously evil people in the field, more so than good.
david
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:25 pm
by nepenthe
Originally posted by Spicer
David.....The post had some good points....
Nothing that will influence my personal experiences (Both in my own relationship and others..)....
Spice,
I am not fooling myself into believing that I will change anyone's mind nor was it my intent. This seemed to be a friendly debate, in which I only wished to toss in a few points.
david
thanks Cypher....
