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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:41 am
by JawZ
Originally posted by YeOldeStonecat
I have given it a try....several times, through several versions. Too many quirks and weird things. Some odd stuff when you try to post to forums.
the early versions...even 1.3 was a bit quirky with some things as you said, but it seems that they have the web bugs worked out.
We are now on version 1.6 and it's really sweet man. I have yet to find a bug and I'm a heavy internet user.
What most people new to Mozilla don't do, especially if they have had a previous version, is uninstall the program and remove the directory. this is not going to remove your profile...that is kept elsewhere. But multiple installs over top of one another is what leads to most problems. Even I was guilty of that and it lead to some problems. Now I have zero.
Ya......*BUT*..LOL!!
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:50 am
by Spicer
You guys have this like Drab/Unattractive GUI.....
I have a Reputation of the Most Awsomenest/Unfreakinbelievable/State of the Art Browser/Desktop/GUI in the *Whole World*...
People in Africa/Europe/Asia/South America..Etc,Etc....Don't sleep well if I don't change my graphics regularily....
Mozilla ties my hands....

Spice
Re: Ya......*BUT*..LOL!!
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:14 am
by JawZ
Re: Re: Ya......*BUT*..LOL!!
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:29 am
by Spicer
Originally posted by UOD
Mozilla has numerous themes for you to explore.
Ya I Know....Not the same though...I like the 3D look..Interchangeable...
Mozilla is a quick browser,good functions..It won't allow the Window Blinds to manipulate ..Most of the reason I enjoy my PC is the fact I get to mess with the GUI..LOL!!
Any IE based browser (IE Front) allows this manipulation..
Now this drives alot of folks nuts..LOL!!..Me..??...It has to be there..

Spice

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:58 pm
by Cypher
I turn off all the Fisher-Price crap in XP myself. Following the nix adage...the lighter the faster.

Hey to each their own.

Look at it like this: You can either date the girl with all the make-up and glamor, but you're gonna have to wait for her to get ready.
Or, you could date the girl with a fresh scrubbed face who's more practical, with a natural glow. She's there whenever you need her.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:00 pm
by TrevGlas
Fisher Price Crap!!

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:01 pm
by YeOldeStonecat
Originally posted by UOD
What most people new to Mozilla don't do, especially if they have had a previous version, is uninstall the program and remove the directory. this is not going to remove your profile...that is kept elsewhere. But multiple installs over top of one another is what leads to most problems. Even I was guilty of that and it lead to some problems. Now I have zero.
I'd have to reformat...couldn't sleep with remnants left. A few months ago, someone here tried to convince me the latest version ran great. No way did I risk it on my main rig...just installed it on an old PII junker....still found it odd when it comes to some forum stuff, other webpages looked odd...wondered how to get reclaim my lost time on that experiment.
34 megs vs 16 megs or whatever the number are...most of us with decent rigs have at least a couple of hundred megs of system RAM. Unless you're running some P166 with 64 megs....no worries.
It's the browser wars...everyone will stick with what they love, we could all try to convince til we're blue in the face.
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:06 pm
by Spicer
Originally posted by cyPHer_138
I turn off all the Fisher-Price crap in XP myself. Following the nix adage...the lighter the faster.
Hey to each their own.
Look at it like this: You can either date the girl with all the make-up and glamor, but you're gonna have to wait for her to get ready.
Or, you could date the girl with a fresh scrubbed face who's more pracital, with a natural glow. She's there whenever you need her.
Or You Date A Girl and Marry Her.....
Because She's Intelligent,Naturally Gorgeous,Heartfelt,Makes Great Money,Queen in the Kitchen..Ohhhh...The list goes on and on...
But Hey....Those Girls Are Reserved For Us *Fisher Price Dudes*...
....(Nah!).....
I Do Like My Toys...Besides..If the machine can't do what I want it to do and *Look Great*...I get a better machine ..Immediately...I have'nt had to in awhile though, due to being underpowered..I just like buying new machines..LOL!!
Although back when I first started using Winder Blinds...It used to drag the machine abit...5 Yrs or so ago...Don't even notice it now, with the high powered schtuff we have comin out today..
1024 Megs..DDR....Compared to 16 Megs of HP Deluxe..Back then,,
Cheers Cypher..

Spice
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:09 pm
by Cypher
Originally posted by Spicer
Or You Date A Girl and Marry Her.....
Because She's Intelligent,Naturally Gorgeous,Heartfelt,Makes Great Money,Queen in the Kitchen..Ohhhh...The list goes on and on... 
To each thier own. Eye candycandy have it's perks after all.

Besides Spice....You don't look like a Fisher-Price guy to me even if you you dig your windows skined.
Cheers
PS
WB does have great integration. They had those usx or somthing skins that moved as fast as a native theme. I always dug Treetogs work over there.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:15 pm
by TrevGlas
Aesthetics do play a role in my computing at least.... the easier on the eyes, the happier computing - but up to a certain extent. I just use a fast visual style with a small Wp. The original look of XP could have had a little more work done on it :P
Heres mine :P

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:17 pm
by Spicer
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:20 pm
by Spicer
Originally posted by TrevGlas
Aesthetics do play a role in my computing at least....
I agree.....That's a nice Wall/Desk......All the Icons would drive me nuts..LOL!!
That's why I have the Taskbar at the top....Auto Hide...
I'm without a doubt, probably the *Neatest Freak* you would ever meet....LOL!!......Neat Freaks, get nervous around me...
Geez....I vacuum the house 6 times a day....I'm the only one here...

Spice
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:28 pm
by ScottE
I'm using Mozilla 1.6 right now but will probably go to Firebird .8 when it goes final.
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:46 pm
by Spicer
Originally posted by ScottE
I'm using Mozilla 1.6 right now but will probably go to Firebird .8 when it goes final.
I downloaded it this aft....
No Links Bar.....??

Spice
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:55 pm
by ScottE
Originally posted by Spicer
I downloaded it this aft....
No Links Bar.....??
Spice
Not in Firebird. That's the one thing that pisses me off about mozilla. That bar at the bottom with Home and bookmarks in it.

It's not there in Firebird though.
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:09 pm
by Spicer
Originally posted by ScottE
Not in Firebird. That's the one thing that pisses me off about mozilla. That bar at the bottom with Home and bookmarks in it.
It's not there in Firebird though.
Gots Sta.....Be There..
Who/Why would they not offer a links bar...??
Ah Well....Quick Browser though!...I'd miss my links

Spice
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:11 pm
by ScottE
Originally posted by Spicer
Gots Sta.....Be There..
Who/Why would they not offer a links bar...??
Ah Well....Quick Browser though!...I'd miss my links
Spice
They offer it. Just go to View>Toolbars>Bookmarks Toolbar
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:16 pm
by Spicer

Spicer
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:43 pm
by stevebakh
I like the nice, clutter-less look.
KDE desktop:
Server desktop is just a plain black background with a few terminal windows running.
Windows:
I know... very boring and plain, but I boot into it once every blue moon when and only when all the planets in the solar system are aligned, so it's not really prettied up.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:49 pm
by Spicer
That's a neat setup there Steve...Well Aligned,Cool Icons..I used to run my Icons on each side of the page like that....
The GUI Administration of Western London,Ontario, Canada....
Is Pleased...Dyam Pleased..

Spice
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:53 pm
by stevebakh
Cheers
It's the only thing in my life which
is organised.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:18 pm
by UnitedWeStand
curently using
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030728 Mozilla Firebird/0.6.1
but I can change it to read.. NONE OF YO BUSINESS.
but thats a little change in the about:config
general.useragent.vendor default string Mozilla Firebird just modify string.
CLASSIFIED hehheh..
like messing with Mozilla firebird its so nice and clean cut.
get that
linky extention.. you can highlight a bunch of links and open them as tabs or highlight all images and open them in tabs.. its so much faster.. browsing. you cn use your mouse wheel to browse through the tabs. When you wanna clear your cookies or your cache. its cleared. Not put in some back up place like I.E. X.
Fireball rocks..
you can get updates for windows using Firebird.. just gotta go to the right site to find em.
I've been using Firebird since release 0.1 when it was called Phoenix.
find it sometimes sluggish on banner loaded sites but this crashes once a month, and the browser extentions are a plus. sometimes I help out breaking through the errors once in a while in the help forums. nothing special, just gotta know a little bit bout jscript.
not telling yall what browser to use though. But I think Firebird is best for browsing sites. If thats what you do.
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:39 pm
by AceFireball
I just switched to Mozilla 1.6
NEVAR will i go back to IE!!!
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:07 pm
by JawZ
Originally posted by YeOldeStonecat
I'd have to reformat...couldn't sleep with remnants left. A few months ago, someone here tried to convince me the latest version ran great. No way did I risk it on my main rig...just installed it on an old PII junker....still found it odd when it comes to some forum stuff, other webpages looked odd...wondered how to get reclaim my lost time on that experiment.
34 megs vs 16 megs or whatever the number are...most of us with decent rigs have at least a couple of hundred megs of system RAM. Unless you're running some P166 with 64 megs....no worries.
It's the browser wars...everyone will stick with what they love, we could all try to convince til we're blue in the face.
Not sure I'm following you on the reformat thing....are you telling me that you would reformat your drive if you thought that remanants of
Mozilla were left over after you uninstalled it?
That seems pretty extreme. Do you format and install after each and every update to Battlefield 1942? Why don't you just image your drive LOL.
As for Mozilla...I told you where it lives...if you whack those 3 directories, you're finished. No need to format for crying out loud. Geez. That's seems like overkill to me but do what you want.
As for browser wars, there are none. Mozilla was declared the victor last year. Everyone else is playing catch-up. What I see are users of IE that really don't understand or can separate one app from the other. The Google Toolbar has nothing to do with IE technology. So when people rave about IE and the Google Toolbar...that's not an innovation of Microsoft, it's the innovation and work of other people....people that saw a shortfall in IE and decided to do something about it.
And that my friend is what we are really talking about here....the stifiling of innovation. I'm sure IE's move to tabbed browsing in IE7 isn't due to the will of the masses...it's to put the Mozilla fire out.
What MS can't innovate, they buy....and then they kill it off. That is how they deal with competition. If you can't outsmart them, then OUTSPEND them.
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:09 am
by YeOldeStonecat
Yes I would have to reformat my main rig. Running updates to a game is completely different from installing a 3rd party application. You see...with a game, only a few files which already have been installed, are overwritten with newer versions of those files. You'll find yourself with some newer .exe's, .dll's, and .dat files. But with a 3rd party application like a web browser....that makes big changes to your OS, you have file assocations, default application for this/that. Many changes within the registry, files plopped into various %system% folders. Running uninstall does not remove it or all the changes that it did 100%. The people that think it did...are the ones that end up with flakey running systems. Then they blame Microsoft.
No I actually don't format and reinstall on a regular basis....it's been probably just about exactly one year since I built this current rig. I'm just careful "what I feed" my computer...experience has shown me what blows computers up...I stay away from that stuff, and I simply don't have those problems anymore.
Google Toolbar has been an add on I've used for years. (I've always been aware that it's an add on...after all, you go to Google.com to download it and install it...doesn't come built into your OS the day you purchase your computer and unbuckle the OS). It's my favorite search engine, my home page, and I've been using the toolbar for a long time...waaay before the popup stopped came about last year. That was just icing on the cake for them to add the popup stopper.
Tabbed browsing...I honestly don't see the big deal or advantage it has over how I work in IE with several websites at the same time.
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 9:02 am
by morbidpete
Originally posted by wee96
Slimbrowser 3.89 Build 003 for me!
hell yea!
its like th best of both worlds..ie compatibility and opera or mozzilas tabbed browsing and popup blockers
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:02 pm
by UnitedWeStand
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:37 pm
by mountainman
Started using Netscape back when I was downloading the ~25MB file on 33.6 modem. Finally, I discovered my computer came with IE and have been using it ever since.
Now... IE6 w/Google toolbar (AWESOME pop-up blocker).
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:46 pm
by Spicer
Originally posted by mountainman
Started using Netscape back when I was downloading the ~25MB file on 33.6 modem. Finally, I discovered my computer came with IE and have been using it ever since.
Now... IE6 w/Google toolbar (AWESOME pop-up blocker).
Then someone would phone and Bump The Connect....LOL!!

Spice
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:00 pm
by CableDude
I jumped on the IE bandwagon in 2001. Before that I was a die hard netscape user.
I like firebird, but the only problem I have is that after I use it for a while, winamp will stutter.
Well.......................
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:07 pm
by Spicer
Me thinks you are all full of Doooo Doooo.......LOL!!
For I have Downloaded,used and abused some 6..Count Em 6...
Of your top choices....There is absolutely nothing better than...
*NETCAPTOR*....I did try though......
Long Live The Captor..

Spice

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:07 pm
by stevebakh
Originally posted by CableDude
I jumped on the IE bandwagon in 2001. Before that I was a die hard netscape user.
I like firebird, but the only problem I have is that after I use it for a while, winamp will stutter.
Have you tried using mozilla instead of firebird? Still sounds like a very weird problem

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:10 pm
by brembo
Been trying out Mozilla for a while now. Like it, the page "snaps" better when jumping around. The d/l manager is real nice too, I can backtrack if I need to. I'll keep it on this rig I believe.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:16 pm
by CableDude
Originally posted by stevebakh
Have you tried using mozilla instead of firebird? Still sounds like a very weird problem
Yeah, I
believe it did it with Mozilla as well. Not sure.
I just took Mozilla off my machine recently.
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:21 pm
by stevebakh
Pooop
When in windows, all I used was mozilla and winamp 2.xx
Are you using a newer version of winamp (maybe something I'm unaware of) or maybe try the latest release of mozilla

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:52 pm
by CableDude
Originally posted by stevebakh
Pooop
When in windows, all I used was mozilla and winamp 2.xx
Are you using a newer version of winamp (maybe something I'm unaware of) or maybe try the latest release of mozilla
Winamp is 2.91. Mozilla was 1.5 I think.
Not a big deal to me anymore. I just reboot and everything is good again.
