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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 6:59 pm
by Gaming-Module
No, they cannot help being how they are. Gays/Lezbians make a concious choice. That's the diffrence.

Please, don't push this any more Macho.. I don't want a vendetta with anyone.
OH!!! HO HO!!! NO!!! OH!!!

Jesus Stumple Christ on a pogo stick if that isn't the most hypocritical thing I have ever heard....

So you make a choice to be straight then?

Because you can't have it one way (pardon the pun).

Sexual preference is just like having an aversion to chinese food.

You don't choose to hate it, you just do. It just is.

Being gay has something to do with a setting in the brain.

Just like anxiety or schizophrenia.

Schizo's have about as much of a choice of being normal as a naturally gifted genius has a choice of being a complete moron.

By your logic people can just turn mental processes of the brain on and off like a light.

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:02 pm
by CiscoKid
Originally posted by SannieRose


Wrong again (but then I guess you'd know). :rolleyes: This park is in the heart of midtown, Atlanta. An area with a median income of about, oh, $100,000 :rolleyes:

...and another thing, don't bother to compare the plight of hookers - most of whom are forced to do what they do to make a living - with the perverted actions of your friends whom are surely not forced into public restrooms to have sex.

It doesn't matter how you sugar-coat it, it's still sick :(
Many hookers do not start out selling thei bodies because they are forced, some actualy WANT to do that. By your logic, Mike only had sex with his ex in a bathrooms and public parks?
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Eh...Mike, why you guys have the apartment if you guys never used it? j/k
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Sannie, I would know about it as many of my friends are police oficers or related to police officers. The income level does NOT indicate what areas are bad. Look at the city I live in. On one block there's four 50,000 mansions and across the street are 10 triplexes with crack feinds, go another block over and find a few more mansions.

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:03 pm
by Gaming-Module
not forced into public restrooms to have sex.
So because a few gays are bad apples all gays are evil?

And sorry, not all child molesters are gay. Some only fondle little girls.

So by your reasoning, because a few heteros assault barn yard animals, all heteros are evil freaks.

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:03 pm
by SannieRose
Macho?-Module, your arguments are laughable. What does eating a cheeseburger have to do with men performing fellatio and other acts of depravity in public areas? :confused: Let's try to stick with the facts here.

And why in the world would you drag the Blacks and Hispanics into this??? Surely they didn't choose to be what they are.
You on the other hand, chose to show your utter ignorance (spell it right) by even posting in this thread. :rolleyes:

Do yourself a favor and sit this one out, K?

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:05 pm
by Gaming-Module
Macho?-Module, your arguments are laughable. What does eating a cheeseburger have to do with men performing fellatio and other acts of depravity in public areas? Let's try to stick with the facts here.

And why in the world would you drag the Blacks and Hispanics into this??? Surely they didn't choose to be what they are.
You on the other hand, chose to show your utter ignorance (spell it right) by even posting in this thread.

Do yourself a favor and sit this one out, K?
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

You really are that stupid aren't you?

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:05 pm
by Paft
Yes, it is a choice. You know how I know? I've chosen. You heard me correctly. I've dilebertally chosen not to be gay.

Macho, your arguments have wound down into mud-slinging, and I have lost all respect for what you are saying, and I can almost guarntee that 50% of everyone else has as well.

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:06 pm
by CiscoKid
Originally posted by Paft
Sannie, I agree with you 100%. It is sick, for us. Just, you may not want to start any fights with people in here... it'll make your life suck.
ROUND ONE!
FIGHT!

j/k

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:07 pm
by Gaming-Module
from my post
Ignorance abound in this thread.
sannie corrected me (or so she thought)
ignorance (spell it right)
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:08 pm
by SannieRose
Originally posted by Paft
...you may not want to start any fights with people in here... it'll make your life suck.
Are you serious? You mean after i turn off my PC tnight my life will suck cuz I don't agree with the warped thinking of some individuals in this forum?

Let me think about this one.... hmmmmm...

I don't think so. :rolleyes:

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:09 pm
by CiscoKid
Originally posted by Paft
Yes, it is a choice. You know how I know? I've chosen. You heard me correctly. I've dilebertally chosen not to be gay.
So, you mean you have been attracted to the same sex as you at one itme in your life?

you walked into a room and got excited at the site of another person of the same sex?

This is what I get from reading your post...

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:10 pm
by Paft
Bingo. You got it. Chose to ignore it. I'm straight. Get it?

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:11 pm
by Gaming-Module
Macho, your arguments have wound down into mud-slinging, and I have lost all respect for what you are saying, and I can almost guarntee that 50% of everyone else has as well.
First of all.

Dont presume anything for anyone on this board. I have had very good discussions and debates with many smart people on this board, and walked away friends with said persons.

And as a side note, your respect means nil to me.

You have been a biggoted trouble maker from the get-go. Hate to tell you, but you are the black sheep around here my white sheet wearing friend.

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:13 pm
by Paft
Back up your words or retract them, friend.

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:14 pm
by SannieRose
Cisco, it is not often that I stumble across a man and woman having sex in the park.... .... wait... I'm trying to think of the last time that happened.... ummm how 'bout

NEVER :rolleyes:

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:14 pm
by Gaming-Module
First of all, I was mostly attacking SR, because quite frankly you are the lesser or two evils Paft.

You I only dispensed logic on.

Logic, which because of it's clarity, has apparently angered you since you are obviously getting angry.

Logic that is...well, logical.

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:15 pm
by Gaming-Module
Cisco, it is not often that I stumble across a man and woman having sex in the park.... .... wait... I'm trying to think of the last time that happened.... ummm how 'bout

NEVER
My brother used to screw his girlfriend in the local park under the pic nic tables in broad day light with children 40 or so feet away.

And yes I think that it is disgusting, but just mentioning it since it applies.

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:17 pm
by CiscoKid
Originally posted by Paft
Back up your words or retract them, friend.
*places support beams behind Macho's thread* There, that should do it!

Paft, your age is evident! eh...however, I can't take anything you say seriouse anymore because you told me you're BI!!!!

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:17 pm
by Gaming-Module
Back up your words or retract them, friend.
What do you mean back up my words?

You mean like you and sannie back up yours? :rolleyes:

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:17 pm
by Paft
Originally posted by Macho-Module
You have been a biggoted trouble maker from the get-go. Hate to tell you, but you are the black sheep around here my white sheet wearing friend.
Back up your words, or retract them, Friend.

What I mean is, show proof that I am biggoted to everyone and everything, all at the same time saying I am infallible. THAT'S what I meant.

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:21 pm
by Gaming-Module
Your posts are proof enough.

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:21 pm
by SannieRose
Originally posted by Macho-Module


My brother used to screw his girlfriend in the local park under the pic nic tables in broad day light with children 40 or so feet away.

And yes I think that it is disgusting, but just mentioning it since it applies.
Yea, I wish the cops had been called whle it was happening with children 40 or so feet away. Disgusting... :(

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:23 pm
by Gaming-Module
Yea, I wish the cops had been called whle it was happening with children 40 or so feet away. Disgusting...
The point is, heteros do that sort of thing too.

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:23 pm
by CiscoKid
Originally posted by Paft


Back up your words, or retract them, Friend.

What I mean is, show proof that I am biggoted to everyone and everything, all at the same time saying I am infallible. THAT'S what I meant.
Biggots are often ignorant! tell me how many gay/lez freinds you have? I'm tlaking to one of my dearests freinds, she's getting married in a few years to her GIRLFREIND of almost two three years. Did I hate her when she told me she was bi as she chocked back tears? Nope, I hugged her and bought her a cake! "CONGRADUATLATIONS, YOU'RE GAY!"

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:26 pm
by Prey521
Hmmm, how come you know so many hookers Cisco? I wouldn't want my kids hangin out with you :D


And I've seen plenty of shows where hookers have been interviewed and not one of them ever said that they wanted to be hooker.

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:31 pm
by Gaming-Module
Most hookers start out by choice, but end up not liking it and unable to get out of the biz.

What about high priced call girl/escorts?

Are they any different?

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 7:32 pm
by CiscoKid
Jon TV, a show where hookers and their Jons are displayed as a way to prevent any more arrests. Plus my cousins are hookers..ran away at age 13 because they wanted to "pluck and suck untill they were blue in the face" as they put it. Met MANY people by way of those two...

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:08 pm
by Jim
Well, here's what I don't understand.

Let's make something up here. Paft, you could be good friends with someone your entire life. One day, you find out that this person is either homosexual or bisexual. Do you suddenly HATE this person because of this? What happened to the longtime friendship that you might have had? Is it all suddenly erased just because someone doesn't happen to have the same likes and dislikes as you?

:confused:

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:13 pm
by Gaming-Module
bump for a good point made

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:15 pm
by Paft
No, because the person would have earned my trust. If they were a homo, and I knew about it, before I became friends with them, the friendship would be harder to get. However, I will become friends with anyone if they show themselves trustworthy.

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:16 pm
by drdoug99
once again, BIGJIM makes an excellent point, i agree fully.

And with Macho, your a good guy bro, just settle down, it's too bad people have to be so close minded, and not open to change.

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:17 pm
by Gaming-Module
I just can't help it.

The answers are right there in front of him, but he refuses to see. First it made me sad, and then I got mad.

:( :( :(

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:18 pm
by Jim
Originally posted by Paft
No, because the person would have earned my trust. If they were a homo, and I knew about it, before I became friends with them, the friendship would be harder to get. However, I will not not become friends with someone if they show themselves trustworthy.

So, you're saying that because someone is homosexual, by default, they are untrustworthy in your opinion. You'd be more likely to do something like, say lend some money, to someone who is heterosexual than someone who is homosexual solely based on their sexual orientation? That's like me saying I don't trust people who are black because they are, well, black. Still confused on that. :confused:

And speaking of confused, would you mind explaining that last sentence? You will not become friends with someone who's trustworthy?

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:19 pm
by Jim
Originally posted by Macho-Module
I just can't help it.

The answers are right there in front of him, but he refuses to see. First it made me sad, and then I got mad.

:( :( :(
Nobody can force him or anyone to change their opinions, no matter how "right" or "wrong" they may be. That's what he wants to believe, and as most people know, no amount of arguing can change that.

I'm not looking to argue, maybe just understand their side a little better, as well as countering a few points with some of my own opinions, that's all.

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:20 pm
by Paft
Heh, no, that's not it. Try putting not two times in a row in a post. It'll delete the second "not". The line was supposed to read "I will not n0t become friends with..."

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:23 pm
by Paft
Originally posted by Macho-Module
I just can't help it.

The answers are right there in front of him, but he refuses to see. First it made me sad, and then I got mad.

:( :( :(
Hold on here. You say this about me, for a belief I hold. HOWEVER, when I say that about you and your belief about God, you jump down my throat? I hardly think that that is fair.

Also, anwsers to what?

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:24 pm
by Gaming-Module
You're the one who jumped down people's throats buddy.

I just didnt like how some were telling me and others (Hell_Yes) that we were going to hell.

I dont care if you say I am wrong, but to say I am going to burn in hell outright, and to tell that to a jew...that, I had a problem with.

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:25 pm
by Jim
Originally posted by Paft


Hold on here. You say this about me, for a belief I hold. HOWEVER, when I say that about you and your belief about God, you jump down my throat? I hardly think that that is fair.

Also, anwsers to what?
EDIT: Whoops, thought you directed that at me, which made no sense. :p

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:29 pm
by CiscoKid
Originally posted by Macho-Module
I just can't help it.

The answers are right there in front of him, but he refuses to see. First it made me sad, and then I got mad.

:( :( :(
See, he's gay, he just doesn't want to admit it to himself. He said that he chose to be straight, when I aske dhim if he had saw a guy and got hard at any point in his life he openly came out and admited it! But that he chose to be normal, thus ignoring his erection and decided to be with a girl instead...thus admiting he had gay tendencies(sp.)...

So, we can't realy be mad at him...he's still confused...I bet if we check ouyt his cached files, he would have ALOT of files from AbsoluteMale.com or gaymen.com...

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:32 pm
by Paft
Heh, nope.

1.) I hate pron. All pron.

2.) Even if I didn't, I couldn't pay for those sites. 14, no $$$

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:34 pm
by gmcd33
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Can't we all just get along?