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Hello everybody RoundEye asked me to post this for him when I got to work because our Cox internet connection isn’t working properly.

Hey y’all soon as I made this thread the Cox network went *BOOM!!!!*. My TV service went out and I can’t get to a lot of websites, speedguide being one of them. Even the sites I can get to feel like substandard dial-up speeds. I can get to SG through http://www.proxify.com but I can’t log in because I’m not a paid member of proxify. It’s the same way from my mom’s house but Cox support is hell bent on it being a problem at my house and a tech won’t be here till Friday. I did a tracert to speedguide and at the 8th hop it stops. Pings to SG are around a 75% loss too. Yeah, the problem is at my house.

Sorry about the hit-n-run drive by post, but I’ll get back to this when I can.

Thanks.

Sweet! Now we can rag on RoundEye with no interruptions.

Roody wrote:Sweet! Now we can rag on RoundEye with no interruptions.

Hey Roody you better think twice before poking that sleeping bear. He is not in a good mood I was happy to get out of the house this morning and go to work. And don’t forget he does have you phone number.

UOD wrote:How many children do you have currently?

UOD, we have only one child a son that is going to be 4 in January.

Roody wrote:Sweet! Now we can rag on RoundEye with no interruptions.

A thread about helmet laws, perhaps.

Mrs.RoundEye wrote:Hey Roody you better think twice before poking that sleeping bear. He is not in a good mood I was happy to get out of the house this morning and go to work. And don’t forget he does have you phone number.

Mrs.RoundEye wrote:....He is not in a good mood.....

Let me elaborate on this a bit, it wasn’t only Cox’s BS that had me in a bad mood. My (ex)doctor got popped for writing scripts to people who were never physically in her office, so now I have to get a lawyer and fight with the D.E.A. to get my medical records back, because they are evidence in an ongoing investigation. Y’all know I’ve been through tons of surgeries and it was nothing short of a miracle that I got my records back from Charity hospital after Katrina. Many people didn’t. The feds have my records dating back to the early 80’s, my file is bigger than a large city phone book. That all mixed with some family grief (not with my wife) made for one hell of a c0cksucker, emo bitch milkshake. Anybody like some? I’ve got way more than I need or want.

Back to the topic at hand.

There are many valid points here, however I feel that some of them are the same as expressed almost 2800 years ago, just with more modern language. Kids will push the limits of society to see what they can get away with, to learn their boundaries. And if out of control kids are indicative of the decline of modern civilization, what are we as adults going to do to stop the downward spiral? Do we just sit back and make post on the interweb about it, or do we get off our collective asses and become proactive about it?

Let’s use the skater punk example that’s been all over TV lately. The kids were skating in a clearly marked “no skateboard zone”. Doesn’t matter to me if it was national skateboard day or not, that’s no reason to break the law and endanger elderly people going in and out an old folk’s home. The kids probably didn’t do it with malicious intent in mind, they were just being littler skater brats on what they thought was their national day.

Here come the cops to put them in check and it leads to probably what looked like a keystone cops movie chasing them around. Once the cop gets a hold of one, he makes certain he doesn’t get away again by subduing him. Didn’t look like any permanent damage was done other then the chit stains in the kids underwear. But instead of the cop being applauded for putting an end to the nonsense, his is relieved of his duties and put on administrative leave.

So what has this done? It raised the bar for the “badness level” of kids. The kids now know they can cause crap and if anybody tries to stop them, the kids will be seen as innocent little kids and the person who is trying to lay out the smack-down will get into trouble.

I’m just on a rant here, I don’t have the answers. But I feel that if the kids are getting worse it’s only because we as adults have let them do so. So I really don’t blame the kids for doing what kids do, I would tend to lay the blame on us as adults for not doing what adults should do. And that is our responsibility to keep those little rat bastards in check when need be.

You can compare "if kids are worse today than they were 2800 years ago".
You have to limit it to this present civilization.

In every civilization to date, as the morals of society declined, the youth became more degraded, as did the adults too. remember, morals are agreed upon laws and rules. It does not matter if these laws & rules are religious based or not, all laws & rules are morals.

So, let's say back in the early Greek civilization, adultery was uncommon. The law of the day stated that one should be true to one's spouse, one should stick to the agreement made with that spouse. As time went on, adultery was committed more often. And the laws changed to reflect what the majority of people agreed on. But "keeping one's agreements", as in the agreement made with a spouse, has more survival value than breaking that agreement, despite what the majority of people want and despite what the laws state. Thus a civilization degrades, and eventually dies away.

Today, the youth are worse off than at any other time during this civilization. This present civilization is more degraded than any previous civilization on earth to date.

Read a bit of Will Durant and you'll understand.

I don't believe the parents are all to blame. The parents can only do so much. We try to guide and give good advice but ultimately its up to the kid. He has peer pressure to deal with as well if he gets in with the wrong crowd.
I have seen parents that were very strict and laid down the law only to watch their kids run away from home because they were extreme.
Parenting is no easy job but we do the best we can.

It makes no sense to lay blame on the next generation the responsibility of the state of the world belongs to past generations.

Rainbow wrote:I don't believe the parents are all to blame.

The problem is that your looking to put the blame in one place and its based on lots of factors. Some kids will always just be bad, no matter how hard parents try, but not all parents are good parents either.


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I dont think kids are worse today. ealier it was said that kids "back in the day" didnt hit teachers and stuff, and thats BS, it just didnt make news headlines, heard of people that got into fights with their teachers and my dad knocked his math teacher out.

We also hear alot more stories now with the media and internet the way they are. People can also look at the "Urban" culture, goth, and punk crowds and judge them as all beign troublesome and bad, when its not true, but some associate their image to bad behavior.

YARDofSTUF wrote:The problem is that your looking to put the blame in one place and its based on lots of factors. Some kids will always just be bad, no matter how hard parents try, but not all parents are good parents either.


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I dont think kids are worse today. ealier it was said that kids "back in the day" didnt hit teachers and stuff, and thats BS, it just didnt make news headlines, heard of people that got into fights with their teachers and my dad knocked his math teacher out.

We also hear alot more stories now with the media and internet the way they are. People can also look at the "Urban" culture, goth, and punk crowds and judge them as all beign troublesome and bad, when its not true, but some associate their image to bad behavior.

it's also no coincidence that most that have said kids are worse now ....are some of our ...ahem ...older members

YARDofSTUF wrote:
I dont think kids are worse today. ealier it was said that kids "back in the day" didnt hit teachers and stuff, and thats BS, it just didnt make news headlines, heard of people that got into fights with their teachers and my dad knocked his math teacher out.

It did happen back then.."once in a while". It didn't have to make headlines for people to know about it..within minutes the word would spread around the entire school..everyone would know about it, we didn't need media back then butchering up the story. It was a huge deal back then, and seldom happened.

But it was no where near the frequency it occurs these days. And when it does..it's so frequent it's pretty much non-news, nobody cares.

YeOldeStonecat wrote:But it was no where near the frequency it occurs these days. And when it does..it's so frequent it's pretty much non-news, nobody cares.

We hear more stories now because theres more media coverage. Its not tons of local stories.

YARDofSTUF wrote:.....We hear more stories now because theres more media coverage.....

That's part of my point, plus we have almost 3.5 billion more people in this world since 1950. And if you look at the graph from year 1 we have almost 6 billion more people on this planet.

Like I mentioned in an earlier post, if you have a bigger barrel of apples then the more likely you are to have more bad apples. Also these bad apples make the news world wide in just a matter of minutes.

I also think that the way laws are written in some countries, that the level of “badness” has been raised. It really is a shame that when a cop grabs a skater punk who is breaking the law, that he is relieved of his duties on put on administrative leave.

Other then that kid’s mom and dad having to buy him fresh underwear, there was no real and long lasting harm done to that kid. I think more harm was done to him in thinking that he got away with it because the cop got punished.

So are the kids really getting worse, or are we failing to guide them properly as adults?

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